Pamela Rogers, previously featured in this Wizbang contest/story, was looking at some serious time (up to 16 years) for having an affair with a 13-year-old student. Instead she got off with nine months in jail, eight years probation, a media blackout, and a registered sex offender tag.
From The Tennessean:
Pamela Rogers, the Warren County elementary school teacher and coach, admitted guilt today on four counts of sexual battery by an authority figure for having a sexual affair with a 13-year-old star athlete student.
Rogers, 28, was sentenced to 270 days in the Warren County jail and will surrender her state teaching certificate for life. Circuit Court Judge Bart Stanley also barred her from granting interviews or profiting from her story during eight years of probation.
Her plea avoids a trial that could have landed Rogers in prison for two to 16 years if she had been found guilty of all 28 counts from her February indictment. It was a no contest plea, which has the same effect as a guilty plea in court and in fact contains an admission of guilt in the document.
The plea also brings some finality to the teacher-student sex affair that rocked this small Middle Tennessee community when it made national headlines in February.Finality?
Since she can’t grant interviews for eight years, how are we supposed to get an answer to the question, “What the hell were you thinking?”
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Update: Looks like we have the answer to that last question… MySpace Page Leads To Rearrest Of Ex-Teacher Pamela Rogers
Ms. Rogers does have that childlike, pouty, Traci Lords “I’ve-been-in-way-too-many-porn-flicks” sleaze look. I must say it’s not very appealing.
Bob Jones: it’s not about morphology but about psychology and personality development.
Your rationalizations about this issue implies that males of any age (including children) are mere pieces of meat without personalities, feelings, development issues. Minor males are also eager to climb ropes and drink themselves into stupors, but it doesn’t make it reasonable behavior, nor behavior that won’t harm them in their development or later in life because of behavioral damage/defects.
To be blunt here, male sexual arousal in a minor is not the objective in a responsible adult-minor relationship. It is also not much of a challenge to induce that in male minors.
I just noticed the woman’s HAND SIGNAL in that photograph…don’t know if anyone else noticed that but it should have been a concern to the judge.
Does the media blackout include photo spreads?
Nine months from now we will find out.
Wrong. Wrong. Wrong.
But, I’ll still have to look.
What she did was wrong, but in our goofy society she’s going to make a million bucks — and date Brad Pitt when he’s done with Angelina and her adopted children.
You bet there’s a double standard. 10 years ago they wouldn’t have even filed charges.
For Christ sakes, this warped this 13 year olds sense of what a “proper realtionship” is?
Like anyone had “proper relationships” at 13! My friends and I would screw any female that was willing, were we warped? Sure! Almost all 13 year old males are warped. Most men don’t learn about “proper relationships” till much later, after their hormones have subsided a bit. Some of you women need to take your blinders off and and see that men are very differant than females. There is a double standard and no matter what the courts decide, that double standard will always exist. It is biological and it is testosterone, an extremely powerful narcotic.
DAMN!!!! i wish i had a teacher like that, then again compliments to the 13 yr old, wonder what trick he pulled to get her into bed, a bit sad that her life is probabely ruined now. She is a bomb!!
This is completely insane to accuse her and put her in prison, prison is for criminals not for a hero, she should be honoured for giving a young bloke the time of his life.
Typically american hypocritism. How much would it cost to bail her out? 🙂
Man the double standard!
truth is the little dude is a P I M P
and all of the females hate that Mrs. Rogers is getting some sweet sweet from Superboy while they are at home on their ass watching desperate housewives. Give the bitch a break!!!
thats just the way the world works
Let’s face it boys. If a gal like this came after you you would think that she fell out of the sky.
I don’t know any of us that would have minded. 🙂
If it were a man doing this……..well, you know the saying: 15 will get you 30!!
If 13 is so young, how come God (or nature, depending on your belief) made them go into puberty? If sexuality before age 18 (or 21, if you’re in Tennessee) is a sin (and rape), why did God or nature make us that way?
I am sorry to tell all of the modern feminists, but no you cannot rape either a man or a boy. Look for your power and glory elswhere.
The woman is a slut, not fully matured, but not a rapist.
What you cannot acept is that this is a case of surrender when noone is at the gate.
What the teatcher has done was wrong, but not because of her age, or because she forced the boy into anything. She was her teatcher and she couldn’t have done it. She was in a position of trust. I have a son of 13. If his personal trainner(hot or not) did this to him, I would fire the girl, but still wouldn’t consider it a crime. She would have betrayed my trust, but I cannot consider a crime to make someone happy.
It is also important to note that sex are not drugs or alcohol – it is something healthy that we must practice to perpetuate human kind. (of course you can became addicted to it, but it is beside the point – you can become addicted to chocolate!).
Awww. I want one.
Well, I’m one of the few women who don’t consider Pamela Rogers a rapist. You cannot rape a boy, period! (just a question of anatomy) Who says boys cannot fall in love or can’t have feelings at that age? And parents, wake up, they ARE already having sex at 14, even if you don’t notice it or don’t want to accept it, so what’s the big deal if they do it with someone older? How can anyone judge anyone without having walked in their shoes anyway, it makes me so mad every time. The real crime in this story is what has been done to these two people by the press, they and their families have been harrassed and dragged in the dirt by journalists. If nobody had found out, the boy would have had a nice memory of it and that’s it – instead, it’s now a trauma. My husband had his first time at 14 with someone twice his age, it was a real relationship for 2 years and she broke up because she wanted to give him a chance to meet a younger girl. They’re still friends, he’s still fond of the memory and not damaged in any way!! (Sorry if there are mistakes, I’m writing to you from Germany so English is not my first language)
I’m a man and I had a similar experience when I was 14. My 19 yr old female next door neighbor (not quite as attractive as Ms. Rogers, but I thought she was great) introduced me to sex. It was great at the time and my memories of it now are great too. I was a horny teenager after that, but frankly I was a horny teenager before that too. There is NO WAY she should be charged for it…we flirted a lot and one day she gifted me with her body. It was respectful, consentual, and quite nice. It made me feel like the man my body was telling me I was. I don’t think I got warped by it…I always thought of it as a special experience.
Don’t get me wrong…I don’t think adults should go around screwing kids in general. I think it can often be harmful. My point is that in certain circumstances it can be harmless and I’m not sure we should send these folks off to the gallows pole.
This 13 year old guy is so lucky
I was 13,14,15 once….and seduced by women in their 20’s, 30’s and 40’s,…I had a paper route ( yeah I know, that sounds so cliche’) at that age I was already 6 feet tall, built like a locomotive with a sex drive to match….trust me….I was never “molested” or “raped” or “prematurely sexualized” by these wonderful housewives. And the sexual expereinces were the most wonderful I have ever had pretty much. I have nothing but positive fond memories when I reflect back on those days so long ago…. not trauma and dark negative psychological residuals that all the pop psycologists swear you’ll end up with. What morons.
Thats the perceptive angle from wich I personaly acertain these female sex cases …….so you know….its hard for me to feel threatened in any capacity by their hype and hysteria in the media. I’m simply not burdened with the obvious vulnerabilities of the general public. I see everyones reactions to these female teacher male student cases as humerous and rediculous but maybe, just maybe I need to have more respect for the feelings of others…..not everyone can be me right? Cocky, obnoxious, strong, fearless to a fault, adventurous, free thinker, I have to learn to respect those who are insecure, weak and narrow minded. I’ll work on it.
…..as far as the authority figure thing is concerned….. as a child and early teen I had female teachers totaly mind rape me in a non sexual fashion that DID traumatize me to the point of suicide practicaly….a few times….but no one noticed, or cared, or put them in jail over it….why?….because it was non sexual. So therefore I guess it was more ok for a teacher to mind rape a student like I was by several of my psychotic elementary school teachers. But when sex enters the picture….oh hell…..Katie bar the door….everyones colloquial insecurities come into play and suddenly….its now wrong for a female teacher to “abuse” her position of authority, and all hell breaks loose when she exhibits sexual interest in a young stud who, incedentaly, totaly eats it up like freakin’ candy. Hey…..if our society is going to protect kids….then go all the way with it for gods sake…..don’t just focus in on what offends you most…..and let the rest just slide….see my point here?….the irony is so thick you could choke godzilla….The ONLY reason that these female teacher male student sex cases are getting such hype and attention is because of our male dominated societies fascination with the mysterious, unpredictable nature of female sexuality. If our society was really interested in protecting its young instead of sending them off to the latest war and having them slaughtered on the battlefield , we’d do it….. and we’d do it right….but as a general rule….we are failing miserably.
So as far as these female sex scandal cases are concerned I got three words of advice for everyone to consider…..GET OVER IT.
this woman is SICK, that is all it is..it has NOTHING to do with being sexualy deprived by her husband or b-f, she has no right to mess with a 13 year old kid, it is not a laughing or joking matter, she deserves to put away for a VERY long time, she has SICK phycological issues that MUST be dealt with
I pray for the victom and his family, and yes I pray for Pamela as well
She’s an attractive, tall, blonde female. Everyone knows that she can’t be held accountable for her actions. She bangs who she wants to bang. She calls back who she wants to call back. She bangs 2, 3 & 4 times who she wants to bang 2, 3 & 4 times. And so it goes.
Get the picture?
DAMN! SHES HOT! I JUST WANNA BANG BANG ON THE BED! THIS BOI IS G*Y! I FEEL SORRY WHEN HE GETS OLDER!
Wow…it beats Rosey Palm and her four sisters pounding the old one-eyed venom spitting copperhead.
In an interview, a government legal correspondent mentioned felt sorry this had to happen… Well the way I look at it, I feel sorry too. I feel sorry for those other 13 year old boys that were standing in line for their turn and they didn’t get it. Oh well back to the hand me down playboy…
Roger dodger over and out.
I think she’s hot and I wish there were more teachers like her when I was in school.
I really think that you’re all having the wrong debate…
It obvious that if it were a male teacher and a 13 year old girl, we’d be calling to have the teached sent to the gallows. But I think the real issue is that she’s so hot. If she were ugly we’d all be saying we should lock her up as well… and Baggi wouldn’t be bragging to his friends at work.
The reason we’re supporting the double-standard in this case is that we’re all hoping to see her pop up in the porn biz somewhere down the line like all sexually repressed Catholic girls (which is where she’ll be let’s face it) so we can all get a good look at this nasty little sicko.
my prediction… here’s the 1-to-3 year plan:
She’s in Penthouse within a year of getting out of jail (if she goes back) and then it’s gonzo shortly thereafter.
write it down!
I Wiss She Would Do That To Me She Should Be Sent To Two HArd YEars At My Place
Jaryd
Its a shame but in our society we do have differences (male and female) This is no ones fault but our owns. Until we take responsibility of healing then we will always have so many “problematic people” in our society.
Why is sex continuosly exploited, when people are hurt in so many other ways. As posted before i remember things my teachers did that made me want to stop learning, when i lose self worth, and even kill myself…yet no one cared but then when someone has sex then the “problem” needs to be dealt with and everyone has to know so everyone can cast there judgement. Why not work with ourselves then our relationships so we can see real progress in our world.
The boy probably will be going through some things that we may look at as challenging but I know he will be ok in the end if he simply chooses so. If we really want to look into things and into history if you recall Louis and clark well Clark married Sacagewae (sp) and she was only 13 hes was more then twice her age and does our history books call him a rapist? We create these realities and really to me i find them histerical. We create these bad things and these bad people this is no ones fault but our owns. We can continue to put people away and kill by the death sentence until no one is left but the fact of the matter is that the problem not lay within the other person it resides in ourselves.
I think this is a perfect opportunity to loook at people and figure out how each of us could play a role in healing of course through love. Is there anything you can do to prevent what you call wrong? And if so can you do it with Love? If you can i would stop worrying about everyone else and first deal with ourselves so we may show what is almost invisible to our eyes…that in which is called unconditional love. Love heals all!
I don’t see what the big deal is…you can’t rape the willing and I’m sure that 13 year old was willing…
Excellent points Luce….you to Mike.
….anyone interested in the reasons these women go after the young, forbidden sexual partners they are going after like this? I’ve completed and posted a research thesis at this link…check it out I worked hard to dig up this information and get these answers.
go to
moonagewebdream.blogs.com
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Some of you need to touch up on your criminal law. There is a difference between rape and statutory rape. Pam Rogers plead guilty to statutory rape.
Look at the word, statutory rape. The term statutory refers to the statute (obviously) that legislature enacted as a matter of public policy to protect precisely children, such as this 13 year old. The law acknowledges there is a difference between being held down and raped and not having the proper level of maturity to make a very adult decision. Unfortunately our society has glorified sex as if it was God’s toy to all human beings. For some idiotic reason, we continuously hold up the notion of casual sex, that is, Yes, I said is, contrary to our own inherent moral law. Yes, you need not re-read what I just said. Casual sex, is indeed immoral. I digress…
The law has noted the difference between rape and statutory rape but has made the distinction not because the latter is any less serious, only the effects are not as immediate, or noticeable. Any 13 year old boy who begins having sexual relations at such an early age is destined to treat sex much less seriously in addition to treating women with much less respect. These idea’s instilled at an early age are the types of understandings that can drive a child to repeat the acts he remembers from an early age, at a later age. In other words, it is more likely this 13 year old boy will either rape or molest a girl of a younger age when he is older.
Re: “We can continue to put people away and kill by the death sentence until no one is left but the fact of the matter is that the problem not lay within the other person it resides in ourselves.” – Luce
Hate to break it to you, but there are on average 60 deaths per year due to the death penalty…really not very significant.
Don’t mistake me, I’m all for the death penalty…if you can find a sane person that committed a crime that would fall within the requirements.
Problem: You won’t. Anyone crazy enough to commit such a crime is undoubtedly insane.
Get off your high horse wowzer….you don’t impress me with your self-righteousness. So can it. Your just kissing the legal authorities ass….you never probed any deeper than that on the issue here..neither did the self-absorbed self serving corrupt godfathers in washington when they passed this silted law……but I will….hey someone’s got to have the pragmatic intelligence to step up to the plate….might-as-well-be me. So listen up.
Interesting comment there Wowzer I’ll admit, but it sounded more like it was coming from silicone based artificial intelligence than carbon based reasoning….we americans are a little more colloquial ( that means victorian era anal retentive when it comes to sex, in case your wondering ) than most parts of the world, the only thing american society baisicaly knows what to do with sexuality is either sell it….or suppress it….when we are not busy exploiting it for money….we are busy condemning the very fabric of it. Americans in general understand human sexuality very little, female sexuality least of all, and are very conflicted and confused….and through the media we have sent those messages not only to everyone in general, but to our more impressionable youth as well. As a result we have moral kayoss…and a screwed up value system and proirity list.
We say we are protecting our youth when we brutaly destroy and prosecute women like Pamela Rogers Turner….yet at the same time we allow and encourage a multi-billion dollar porn indusrty here that gets no resistance from the legal system, to proliferate and continue its ease of availability to any child that can press a computer key. I think that it might have something to do with the fact that women are alot easier to kick and bulley around than a billion dollar industry that can fight back and lobby our congress into the ground like the tobacco and pharmacutical industries do. So lone, rather harmless, otherwise innocent women are used as scapegoats instead. I’m not agreeing with what these female teachers do its a little over the top no matter how you slice it….but by the same token picking on and brutalizing these women instead of getting to the core of the problem doesn’t impress me either. If our legal system would go after porn with the same aggression,media frenzy and consistency, we’d banish it inside a year. And send the porn industy leaders running for the sewers and dark shadows from where they came, scared shitless. Our government has more than enough power and resources to do that. But then again….they could shut down alot of harmful industries and interests as well couldn’t they.
If I had a 13 year old son, who like me was very developed at that age, I’d rather he be exposed to the embrace of a woman in his early manhood instead of the dark specter of pornography and the debilitating sexual habits and perceptions of women that would result and follow. Porn has nothing to do with real human sexual expereinces and dynamics, its actualy a poor sick portrayal of human sexuality and blatant disregard and disrespect of women and their needs. And I’d feel much more comfortable catching him in the arms of a beautiful intelligent woman than mind-fucked by pornographic influences.
But no….we americans continue on our path of ignorance and stupidity of human sexuality and relationships….a 13 year old girl in our warped society qualifies to be a mother, we train people how to flip hamburgers more than we train individuals in sexuality, or how to be husbands and wives, to learn this stuff in this country one must put forth extraordinary initiative and efforts…for we teach none of this stuff in our educational institutions, and what token pittance we do teach, so called sex education, is of such a clinical, robotic, of no practical or applicable value in its nature that it does more to add to the kayoss and confusion that aready exists here than to clear matters up.
So you see ….in a society like ours its no small wonder we have such strange laws governing our sexuality, …..we encourage our youth to have sex freely with one another…hey guess what….its legal….we parade little Britney Spears around on stage at 14 practicaly naked and festering hardcore sexual overtones….hmmm….what was our youth and society in general supposed to do with that little message? I never heard one person complain about that perverted overt exploitation of her back then….everyone thought it was “cute”….really now….well what happened to our obsession to protect our youth there? When there is money to be made or it doesn’t threaten our colloquial based insecure warped overcompensentory opinions then I guess that makes it ok.
Sex between female’s over 20 and males in the young manhood of their teens is pretty intense stuff…..like crack cocaine…. I would know….. I’ve expreinced it(both actualy)….its been deemed by our society as taboo….a forbidden pleasure…..and for good reason. A young man of 13 having sex with a woman vs having sex with another girl of 13 is a totaly different expereince and matter. A 13 year old boy having sex with a 13 year old girl is nowhere as intense or strangely exquisite when compared to sex with a woman…..strictly no contest. When your a teenaged boy, sex with a woman is like a drug. And just like a drug, the heightened first time expereince of sex beyond what is normal can sometimes mess with a young man’s mind in a negative way should he not have the emotional constitution to deal with such a sudden intense, provocative pleasurable expereince. Most young men in their teens however are not that vulnerable sexualy, And they eat it up like candy, I damn sure wasn’t (vulnerable) and I did (eat it like candy)….but then again some are of weaker constitution, and to be sexualized that early would not serve them well mentaly and emotionaly….and thats reason enough to take the moral high ground….even if its just to protect the weaker few. And, like wowzer here, I have to cast my vote in favor of protecting the potentialy weak.
Besides, these activities between women and younger men are having wierd repercussions, have you noticed?…I mean now females over 20 are no longer to be trusted by anyone with teenage boys…its bizzare…but now a reality….it used to be that men were the stinkers who couldn’t reliably control their biological urges….now women have been thrown into the same negative reputational cess-pool….oh I’m sure women are just thrilled with that. Thats just another societal pressure they gotta’ deal with now.
And teachers….wow….as if they aren’t overworked and underpaid enough, now they have to deal with this added burden and carry it….not good….not fair to them. Hell they are some of the most important people in our society and are not paid a fraction of what they are worth or deal with and this is how we thank them….more scandals….more precautions and restrictions against them. Making an impossible job even more so. Its stuff like this that caved the powerful Roman empire of old in. And ours is not far behind if we don’t make some changes.
Now the reason why such huge nuclear social reactions are occuring over this case with Pamela and her sexual choices, activities and obsessions with her young lover are multi-faceted. Number one is that everyone is fascinated with why such attractive women …..who incedentaly…..can have any man over 20 they want with no effort….insist on sexual persuit of young men not even old enough to drive yet despite the dangers and obstacals. Its amazing the drive, intiative and desire they display, a display of sexual passion and “damn the torpedoes” that very few men over 20 ever get the honor of enjoying and expereincing from women of her attractiveness. So why?….what is the amazing attraction going on here? Well….that is what everyone would like to know….hence the astronomical attention that the media is giving this subject matter and these female teacher male student sex cases and scandals. If one can explain to our ignorant male dominated society the unpredictable nature of female sexuality in clear concise terms…you’d be an overnight billionare.
I’m not going to make that attempt here….lest I go broke…LOL !!!!…..maybe wowzer can give it a shot….but me…I plead ignorance.
I have been studying Pamela and her other prototypes for some time…and have written a thesis on it…if you’d like to check it out and comment feel free…I’ve dug up some interesting answers as to why they “do it”. And what most women think and feel about the matter….the reality of whats on most modern women’s mind’s sexualy these days is astonoshing….truly. As you’ll see from my expose’.
Wowzer….I’d like you to read it as well. I need someone of your intelligence to give me input on it. Anyone else is welcome as well. Here is the link:
moonagewebdream.blogs.com/moonage_webdream/2006/04/debra_lefave_pa.html
You’ll find my Email on the link as well….but feel free to comment in the blog instead. Thanks
that’s the best piece of tail he’ll ever see… it’s sad that it’s all downhill from here…
holy damn she is soo hot!!!i wish i could be the victim!!!…hahhahaha nah just kidding.
I would have said “yes” if I was in the kid´s place….free willing sex with that teacher.
If my son was taggin that ass at 15 i’d high five him… =)
I want Pamela Rogger adress.
I LOVE SHE!!!
Wow, this kid had sex with this hot teacher like 8 times. Most fathers would hug there son for such an acompleshment. It’s crap that it’s rape. The guy bangs the girl, and he was on her in 2 seconds I bet. We all had teachers like that and we all would have bangged the hell outta them and would have done it again to. You can’t rape someone 8 times without them not reporting it. Ohhh he wanted it and he enjoyed it.
oh my bad 13-15 times
Well Im pretty sure if I would of had a few teachers like this at my school, I might of stayed there more often.This lady is sooo fucking sexy,I would of boned the shit out of her when I was 13 as well!!!The word ” RAPE ” is not appropriate in this case,cuz im sure the kid knew whut he was doing,Can I trade him spots?Id love to tap that sweet sexy ass of hers!!!Id bang the hell out fo her like 13 or 14 times a day man!!If I was her ex husband I would of treated her ALOT better so she would of never divorced me, he must of not been able to perform very well in the sack!!!!But at any rate the lady is SUPER SEXY,and ID BANG THE HELL OUT OF HER!! She also deserves to be let free.And whuts the big deal with her using the internet?
Man Im 15 i wished i had that teacher! man i guess she is just crazy messing with a 13 year old i believe she is just wack in the head that lucky kid had his chance
honestly, every parent should know that their 13 year old kid knws what sex is, and how to f**k someone, so all of you parents just get over it, the 13 year old boy would have run away from the teacher only if he was gay or immature
I think she is hot
red4der basically got it right. I’m 21 now. Back when i was 13, I’d bag a girl so hot like this any time of the day. Afterward, I’d probably go and brag about it to buddies of mine. But if I were smart,.. i’d keep it a secret for it to last longer.
Of course, if sexes were reversed, the sh!t would really fly. I’d personally castrate anyone having sex with, say, my 13 yr old daughter.
that 13 yrs old kids was a dumb ass for telling everyone hehehehehe damn if that was me i keep hitting that shit until i was in collage
Let’s face it, she’s hot and it was consensual. Everyone’s playing up the whole “if she was a man and the 13-year old was a girl” scenario but young girls are JUST AS HORNY as guys, if not more so. It really depends on the individual. I don’t see why society chooses to ignore this little fact. For example we had a really hot blonde male well-built math teacher at our school and more than half of the girls I knew were constantly vocalizing how much they wanted to screw him. Hell even I wanted to screw him. Admittedly the age group was around fifteen but they were still Females. Also judging whether he was emotionally mature enough to have sex is arbitrary at best. I know twenty year olds who aren’t emotionally mature enough to have sex and I know fourteen year olds who are. The real problem is that she was a teacher therefore she had some power over him and that could have lead to something that wasn’t consensual. Just like a boss shouldn’t enter a relationship with an employee because the opportunity for manipulation is easy to take advantage of. No I don’t think she should be allowed to teach anymore but I also wouldn’t put her in prison for sixteen years, besides it’s way better for him to lose it to some hot teacher than to some nameless girl he ended up in bed with while he was plastered.
Let’s just summarise:
That teacher at the top is hot.
Any of us blokes here would have railed her, if she was up for it.
Sex with teachers FTW.