HomeMilitaryHaditha Debate To Air On Cable and Internet at 9 p.m. Haditha Debate To Air On Cable and Internet at 9 p.m. Lorie Byrd May 31, 2006 Military 11 Comments Steve Schippert alerted me to the following: CN8, Comcast Cable’s News Channel, will be broadcasting a Haditha Debate LIVE on both cable and the internet. Be sure to tune in at 9PM EDT. Get viewing and call-in information here. Afghan Parliament Demands the Arrest of US Soldiers Involved in Truck Accident Fun With Photoshop -- The Al Gore Edition Related Posts “My Daddy Was Killed”; Can you help McKinnzie Bewley? Listening to bad advice Up periscope About The Author Lorie Byrd 11 Comments Steve Schippert May 31, 2006 I have enjoyed recent root canals more than listening to the illogic presented by former Congressman Joe Hoeffel (D-PA) and Dena Zakaria. If she spoke a complete sentence without drowning out Dr. Klinghoffer, I missed it. Left the show more angry than upon entry. Thanks for sending a few Wizbang readers over to watch and join me in misery, Lorie. Lee June 1, 2006 Now the Iraqi government knows they were lied to by the US leadership over our troops complicity in the massacre they are launching their own investigation. BAGHDAD, Iraq – The Iraqi government decided Thursday to launch its own investigation into reports that U.S. Marines killed unarmed civilians last year, and the top U.S. general in Iraq ordered American commanders to conduct ethical training on battlefield conduct. The decision to begin an Iraqi inquiry into the killings was made at a Cabinet meeting, Adnan al-Kazimi, an adviser to Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki, told The Associated Press. The investigation will be carried out by a special committee made up of the Justice and Human Rights ministries along with security officials, al-Kazimi said. The U.S. military already is conducting at least two investigations into the Nov. 19 killings of 24 people in Haditha, including women and children, following a bomb attack on a military convoy in which a Marine died. Military investigators have evidence that points toward unprovoked murders by Marines in Haditha, a senior defense official said last week. A U.S. military investigation will conclude that some officers gave false testimony to their superiors, who then failed to scrutinize the reports adequately, The Washington Post reported. When you have leaders in the White House who lie, who is surprised that we’d have military leaders who won’t hesitate to be liars as well? Apparently the military “superiors” chose to cherry-pick their intelligence on this issue, a trick they learned from their Republican commander-in-chief. How long will it take before the new Iraqi government kicks the US out of their country? Tick, tick, tick tick…. scsiwuzzy June 1, 2006 Lee, Projecting much? Nowhere in the article is the word lie, or any synonyms of lie, used. LoveAmerica Immigrant June 1, 2006 Lee is projecting the dishonesty of the liberal left onto the US military. The left is predictable. It will take every opportunity to smear the military and the US. They are still silent today about the atrocities of the communists (with a “good” help from the left) during the cold war. http://www.opinionjournal.com/best/?id=110008452 Then, the perversity of reveling in tragedy. To most Americans, the retreat from Vietnam and the resignation of Nixon were at best necessary evils; but to the liberal baby boomer they were, and at least to Sulzberger they remain, points of pride. The baleful consequences of Vietnam and Watergate–boat people, the Khmer Rouge’s massacres, the presidency of Jimmy Carter, the impeachment of Bill Clinton–go unmentioned in Sulzberger’s speech. Lee June 1, 2006 scsiwuzzy – You said: Nowhere in the article is the word lie, or any synonyms of lie, used. Here, from the last paragraph of the quote I included from the linked article: A U.S. military investigation will conclude that some officers gave false testimony to their superiors, who then failed to scrutinize the reports adequately, The Washington Post reported. Do you see my name on a comment and react without thinking? LoveAmerica Immigrant June 1, 2006 Lee, I am compelled to tell the truth about the dishonesty and hypocrisy of the left. I hope that you won’t fall for the despicable but predictable behavior of the left. (1) The first instinct of the left is to attribute the worst to our military (they don’t even care about waiting for the investigation to be completed etc…). On the other hand, the left always tries to give the benefit of the doubt to the enemies of America, even the terrorists (eg. Howard Dean and Osama Bin Laden). (2) You cavalierly impugn the military when they initiated the investigation themselves and even use Drone pictures to aid in the investigation. The liberal press has not even been doing its job. It simply generates half-truths, distortions, and even outright lies (which have been documented). (3) I am new to Wizbang, but your posting reminds me again of the behaviour of the liberal left, that sought to smear the US military and betrayed the oppressed people in Indochina. http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2006/06/the_haditha_story.html First, the left will use every tool at their disposal to ensure that the Haditha incident becomes synonymous with the entire Iraq war. Abu Ghraib proved a propaganda bonanza for the terrorists and nations such as Iran, Syria and Saudi Arabia that want us to withdraw from Iraq in defeat. Haditha – regardless of what the facts may turn out to be – will be used ceaselessly and purposefully to eliminate American support for the Iraq war and to demonize anyone who still supports it. Haditha will become the Orwellian centerpiece of the Democrats’ claim that they support the troops. “They’ve been there too long,” Murtha and his ilk will cry. “We have to bring them home before they kill more babies.” And then the Dems, feigning concern for our soldiers, will offer them psychological counseling when they return. The political fallout will be enormous, and it will damage both the ongoing war efforts and our troops’ morale. http://www1.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2006/06/haditha_explaining_the_inexpli.html Perhaps the involved Marines lied about what occurred not because of a consciousness of guilt, but rather, because of a consciousness of reality. The reality of which I speak is the unpopular nature of this war at home, the resulting diminished standing by the President who took the country to war, and the recognition by the soldiers that they would not be given the benefit of the doubt by the domestic media who would report on that which occurred. Lee June 1, 2006 I’m not smearing anything or anyone. I just quoted the facts – that the military has been caught lying. Blind obedience to the crown isn’t my style LoveAmerica Immigrant, but it is a suit that you oviously wear proudly. To each their own. moseby June 1, 2006 What’s the big deal? So a few useless ay-rabs were gunned down by mistake. It’s called getting crushed in the gears of progress. Whoopy-freakin-do. LoveAmerica Immigrant June 1, 2006 Lee that the military has been caught lying. ———————————————— That ‘s smearing, Lee. We don’t smear the military with bad apples like Kerry and Murtha for example. Some officers are not the entire military. And the military initiated the investigation on its own. The liberal press couldn’t even do that. This is the same smearing tactic that the communist and its allies in the left has been using during the cold war. This is what I call the “perfection fallacy”. Since America is not perfect, it will make mistakes. The dishonesty of the left is that it used these mistakes to smear America, the best overall country on earth right now. Blind obedience to the crown isn’t my style LoveAmerica Immigrant, but it is a suit that you oviously wear proudly. To each their own. Good point. That ‘s why I don’t understand why the people on the left can be so blinded by the morally corrupt liberalism. Treating your own country as well as you would treat the enemies is not too much to ask in my opinion, esp when the enemies despise what you claim to care about. I guess your definition of patriotism is this: assume the worst about your country while giving the benefit of the doubt to its enemies. is this blind allegiance to a corrupt ideology? LoveAmerica Immigrant June 1, 2006 Lee, Forget to add that I also simply stated the facts about the dishonesty of the liberal left. I would be happy to elaborate more facts for you. Lee June 1, 2006 Forget to add that I also simply stated the facts about the dishonesty of the liberal left. Glad you’re above all of that “smearing” you see in others, LAI — and it’s nice to know that all liberals are just like Kerry and Murtha. Thanks for the “facts” — no more elaboration needed – thanks anyway.