I still can’t believe this guy was president for eight years. It is amazing that a majority of the American people would elect this guy twice. (Oops, forgot — they didn’t.) If you haven’t seen the video of Bill Clinton’s meltdown yet, check it out now.
Update; One thing that you can say about Bill Clinton is that he is consistent. The first press conference he held after becoming President was striking to me in that he spent an incredible amount of time blaming the evil Republicans for everything. At the time I thought he sounded so unlike any other president in my lifetime and I just knew he would not be successful by blaming others rather than taking responsibility for his own actions (or inaction). I was wrong because he did enjoy success in the opinion polls by bashing his opponents. (A big dot com bubble that boosted the economic outlook didn’t hurt either.)
I was right too though, partially at least, because he never did really win over those on the other side of the aisle, at least not at the ballot box. Listen to any of Clinton’s speeches or interviews and you will hear at least some form of blame being placed on his opponents. Like I said, he is consistent.
I did not have sex with that woman, Miss Lewinsky!
I tried to get Bin Laden, really I tried! More than those Right Wingers. Yeah, that’s it, That’s the ticket.
What a lying sack of Arkansas hillybilly crap.
/spit
Clinton is a proven liar. Why on earth would anyone but a blind lefty democrat believe him? Berger probably stole the proof that Clinton did nothing to get Bin Ladin. He said in his interview (a portion was shown on Fox) Willy said at least he tried. He failed but he tried. The hell you say. When Bush tried, he didn’t get him either, but he sure changed his comfort level.
Looks like the Clinton Legacy is being writeen and he don’t like the way it’s goin’.
Life’s a bith when you no longer conrol the spin ey Bill.
That depends on your definition of what “tried” is.
Clinton never got 50% of the vote, a fact lost on todays donks.
Sure it depends on the definition of tried.
I don’t blame Clinton overly much. I’d really hate for us to be assasinating every Tom, Dick, and Abdul who makes it to our sh*t list. Hind sight is 20/20 as they say. NOW it seems obvious. Then it didn’t.
I *really* don’t think he does himself any favors, though, by getting all self-defensive and animated. It makes people think he’s guilty of something.
Hey Phant, er I mean Bill:
What percent did the Boy Emperor get in 2000? It’s a fact lost on you I guess.Here it is: 47.87 to be exact. You people can really be friggin idiots, even without trying.
Still less than half, dumbass
Hugh,
Bush got 51% in 2004! Clinton never got 50%. That ‘s a fact that seems to be lost on you.
Here is the really sad part.
Today there is a drumbeat on the news media to call Bush a failure in some way or another. A failure on the war on terror because he has not yet gotten Bin Laden, a failure in Afghanistan and Iraq, a failure on the economy, you name it.
Yet, you will not see Bush on television pointing his finger and blaming the “left wingers” for this message. Instead, he remains possitive, ignores the noise, and continues to do what he believes is right for this country. It is because of that he will go down in history like Reagan did, as one of the great Presidents of the United States, despite his failings, like in No Child Left Behind and Immigration and in spending too much of our money on social welfare, failing to fix Social Security, etc.
On the other hand, Clinton has lot’s of allies and supporters out there who admire and adore him, even some in the media who say they’d love to have sexual relations with him because he’s such a handsome guy and charismatic.
And yet, his legacy is written and its name is Monica Lewinski. He spent his time in office betraying this country and his oath by diddling his interns, sexual harrasment under the law for which any CEO would be fired, and “trying” in some attempt or other to get bin laden.
You’ll notice nothing but excuses out of the Clinton administration for its failures. They are very vocal and “angry” about being accused of failures during Clinton’s two terms in office.
It’s nice we don’t have to hear that out of President Bush and his administration. Refreshing, actually. The contrast is alarming.
One President points his finger at us, opens his eyes wide, and lies to our faces while blaming his opponents. The other President puts his head down, ignores the noise and really tries his best to get the job done in order to keep the American public safe from harm.
May God Bless George W. Bush.
History can be written anyway you want. The facts are what matters. The facts are Clinton was doing a lot to curb terrorism. And he was doing it in a way that didn’t rally the worlds terrorist against us. Bush completely ignored the threat until 7 minutes after the second plane hit. Then he over reacted costing us billions and increasing the number of global jihadist out to get us. And he truly did let bin Laden get away.
Anyone wanna look at the facts on the issue and I’ll be sure to club you with them.
And as far as re-electing Clinton his economy blows the doors off of this one AND it was far better for the middle class and the working class then Bush’s.
If you are voting for Bush you are simple voting for Corporate rule and an end to democracy. And you call the Clinton voters stupid?
Methinks he doth protest too much.
History can be written anyway you want. The facts are what matters.
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That is a good point and Clinton has been shown to be a liar. Even Clinton admitted that he didn’t want to get Bin Laden when it was offered to him by the Sudanese. The fact that Sandy Berger had to destroy classified documents to cover up their sorry legacy on terrorism. Finally as you said Clinton was clubbed with the truth and he was upset because he couldn’t get away with lying and intimidating people into silence anymore.
Baggi, that was good. The left despised and smeared Reagan when he was in office. History and truth showed that he is a hero to millions of oppressed people in Eastern Europe while the left stood by and even covered up for the communists during the cold war. Clinton ‘s history is linked with Monica Lewinsky. The sad part is that Clinton is the hero of the left and that ‘s why they have to spin for him
History can be written anyway you want. The facts are what matters.
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That is a good point and Clinton has been shown to be a liar. Even Clinton admitted that he didn’t want to get Bin Laden when it was offered to him by the Sudanese. The fact that Sandy Berger had to destroy classified documents to cover up their sorry legacy on terrorism. Finally as you said Clinton was clubbed with the truth and he was upset because he couldn’t get away with lying and intimidating people into silence anymore.
Baggi, that was good. The left despised and smeared Reagan when he was in office. History and truth showed that he is a hero to millions of oppressed people in Eastern Europe while the left stood by and even covered up for the communists during the cold war. Clinton ‘s history is linked with Monica Lewinsky. The sad part is that Clinton is the hero of the left and that ‘s why they have to spin for him
Just for the record, the real “Clinton Legacy”:
“The cowards who committed this murderous act must not go unpunished,” he said angrily. “Let me say again: We will pursue this. America takes care of our own. Those who did it must not go unpunished … Let me be very clear: We will not rest in our efforts to find who is responsible for this outrage, to pursue them and to punish them.” (June 1996, Khobar Towers bombing)
“At least I tried.”
““We will use all the means at our disposal to bring those responsible to justice, no matter what or how long it takes. . . . We are determined to get answers and justice.” (August 1998, embassy bombings in Tanzania and Kenya)
“At least I tried.”
“We will find out who was responsible and hold them accountable … if [the terrorists’] intention was to deter us from our mission of promoting peace and security in the Middle East, they will fail utterly.” (October 2000, USS Cole bombing)
“At least I tried.”
Go read for yourselves Chapter 4 of the Official 9/11 Commission Report, which details numerous opportunities to kill or capture Bin Laden. Here is one:
Bill Clinton deserves to be judged based on the actual decisions of his administration, not his “save my legacy” spin.
“The facts are Clinton was doing a lot to curb terrorism.”
Really? Was he curbing terrorism when the WTC was bombed in 1993? How about our embassy in Bali? How about the USS Cole? How about our soldier being dragged thru the streets? Yeah, Clinton was doing a lot, but it wasn’t to curb terrorism (if you get my drift).
Why do you liberals continue to make complete fools out of yourselves like this? Not only are you ignorant, you fail to understand that we conservatives are very well educated on the issues and can easily counter you arguments with FACTS.
And as far as the economy goes, the unemployment rate is lower than it ever was under Clinton, a figure you guys used ALL THE TIME to measure the economy by in the 90’s.
You’re a typical liberal who just throws statements out there with no facts at all to back them up. Just a lot of rhetorical hot air.
Thanks for coming Muirgeo.
Goodnight.
One President points his finger at us, opens his eyes wide, and lies to our faces while blaming his opponents. The other President puts his head down, ignores the noise and really tries his best to get the job done in order to keep the American public safe from harm.
May God Bless George W. Bush.
Posted by: Baggi
On President lied about a personal matter that didn’t get ONE person killed.
The other read My Pet Goat for 7 minutes while our country was being attacked then he lied us into a war that has cost us half a trillion dollars, far more lives then were lost in 9-11 and in the process he committed a felon by violating the wiretap laws and he is guilty of war crimes by violating the Geneva Conventions. He’s set up an economy that only advances the very wealthy and will ultimately lead to the 3rd Republican lead Depression as out debt and trade balance grows. Meanwhile he’s totally ignored out three biggest threats from WMD from Korea, Pakistan and nuclear material in Russia.
For Bush’s efforts Afghanistan is a Taliban strong hold and the poppy business is booming, Iraq is on the verge of a civil war, Hamas , and Hezbolla are as defiant as ever, the economy is on a knives edge from disaster, our infrastructure and our National Parks are crumbling, science is ignored, the debt is the largest ever, middle class America (THAT’S YOU DING DONGS) are falling behind in spite of working harder then ever, Corporations are stealing the treasury, corruption and graft is everywhere, the electoral process is completely untrusted and the world looks at us in disbelief.
And good people who call themselves Christians rally behind the war loving poor hating Administration as if Jesus is right with them….daohohohohoh….shakes my and rubs my eyes…WTH are you all drinking??? You clueless Hypnotized Bushbots….you are the biggest cult this country has ever seen…..
And as far as re-electing Clinton his economy blows the doors off of this one AND it was far better for the middle class and the working class then Bush’s.
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This is wrong on the facts. Clinton inherited a growing economy and the peace dividend of the end of the cold and gulf war. Oil price was $60. Yup, which is better on the economy?
If you are voting for Bush you are simple voting for Corporate rule and an end to democracy. And you call the Clinton voters stupid?
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So why are you voting for the filthy rich like Kerry, Kennedy, Boxer and George Soros? Why do you want to vote for a party that enables dictators like Chavez and Castro (eg. Carter)? Why do you vote for a party that cannot muster 1/10 of their hatred for Bush towards the terrorists?
Muirego,
Thanks for proving my point that all you can do is just spout out rhetoric without facts.
You need to stop vomiting the liberal talking points and do a little THINKING for once.
Geez you people are so stupid!
And as far as re-electing Clinton his economy blows the doors off of this one AND it was far better for the middle class and the working class then Bush’s.
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This is wrong on the facts. Clinton inherited a growing economy and the peace dividend of the end of the cold and gulf war. Oil price was
Bush inherited a recession and 9/11. With all the cost of the war on terror and
Oil price above $60, the economy seems to grow quite nicely. At the same time, the liberal economies of Europe and Canada haven’t grown much while they spent little on defense. Yup, who is better on the economy?
muirgeo,
Again you proved that thuggish dictator like Chavez simply repeated the left ‘s talking points (or lies). No wonder the left loves this guy.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/13401534/
Chavez says U.S. may have orchestrated 9/11
‘Those towers could have been dynamited,’ says Venezuela’s president
Methinks he doth protest too much.
Posted by: Jim Addison
Trying to speak Shakespearian English doesn’t make you smart especially when the content of your message screams out that your a contented ignorant fool.
Oh I’m a happy ignorant fool…Falalalalalal.LLALALALALAL…
the debt is huge, the armies in shambles, terrorist are multiplying like rabbits, China owns us, the globe is warming and corporations are taking over my country but I’m a happy happy guy because I got 1000 cable channels and Fox news has washed my brain and all i think are happy happy thoughts lALALALALALLAL all the day long….
That is a good point and Clinton has been shown to be a liar. Even Clinton admitted that he didn’t want to get Bin Laden when it was offered to him by the Sudanese. The fact that Sandy Berger had to destroy classified documents to cover up their sorry legacy on terrorism.
Posted by: LoveAmerica Immigrant
You call Clinton a liar then you follow it with two sentences that are lies. Good job junior…..remind me not to bother posting back to you anymore because you lie.
1835 days since Bush swore he wouldn’t rest until he got bin Laden…
muirgeo,
Seems like you don’t believe your own rhetoric. If you really believe what you are writing, you would have moved to your utopia in Iran, Venezuela. We risked our lives to come to America and i can tell you from first hand experience that America is a great country. If you don’t believe that, then you should try to move to another country.
Hey Muirego,
There’s audio of Clinton explaining why he didn’t get Bin Laden when the Sudanese offered him to us you moron.
Or was that doctored by those evil right wing Republicans?
Wasn’t Alec Baldwin going to move to France if Bush won the election in 2004?
You can’t depend on liberals for ANYTHING.
You call Clinton a liar then you follow it with two sentences that are lies. Good job junior…..remind me not to bother posting back to you anymore because you lie.
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Where are your facts to back it up? Oh, you didn’t hear about Sandy Berger, right? Are you too busy reading Chomsky?
Fact-free posting. IF you believe what you wrote, you would have left America a long time ago.
“Chris, I never…I did not have sexual relations…with Osama bin Laden!”
Wow, the BDS-afflicted poo-flingers are out en masse tonight! Ya’ll have fun, but I just don’t have the patience anymore to talk to these people. Banging one’s head against the wall is less painful and about as productive…
Funny thing is, as soon as Bin Laden DOES get caught, there will only be two reactions in the MSM:
1. Bin Laden is irrelevant now anyway
and
2. Hmm…election coming up…the timing of the capture sure seems suspicious
Bush is suuuuch a goooood president because first he makes me scared…then he tells me he’ll protect me and that makes me feel better. Then he blows stuff up and that makes me feel ever better. He is so authoritarian that I just love it because he tells me what to think and when to think it….he says I’m a patriot because I think like he does. Usually its hard for me having to choose between black and white but Mr President tells me what is black and what is white and I like that. I wonder what he’ll want me to think tomorrow?
Man are you people great Matrix material or what. For you guys definitely take the blue pill when offered.
Smartguy,
The reason is simple. The liberals don’t have any solution to offer. So people who don’t have solutions can only find faults and criticize to cover up their incompetence. For the dems, not only their incompetence but their corruption.
Evertbody RUN!!!!! mun-go says the sky is falling, the sky is falling——
muerigo,
Bush must have done a good job keeping you safe here in America. He even protected your freedom to post your rant against him. If he is bad as you said, you would have moved to another country.
The fact that you are still here posting on this forum at least a proof that Bush has done his job despite the sell out by the liberal left.
“Then he blows stuff up and that makes me feel ever better.”
In your incoherent ranting, I think that now you’ve confused President Bush with Monica Lewinski.
Sorry I couldn’t resist.
Muirego, you f*cking idiot. You are incapable ot distingushing between truth and lie. Sandy Berger stole (proven, he admitted guilt) documents from the National Archives just prior to the 9/11 commission meeting. What do you suppose was so important that he would ruin his shining reputation by this repugnant act? Copies of Clinton war plans. Go away.
People sure have short memories. It’s news today that Slick has collected several millions/billions of dollars for some phony project. I remember a project called ‘white water’ where all of the money went into an off shore account is someone else’s name. Want to bet what percent of this money will end up in the same account. A career criminal and liar will always rip you off, it’s in their blood. Remember he is a lawyer (disbarred but still a lawyer and the Weasel is a lawyer and bigger criminal than he is), so the where abouts of the money will never be known.
Anyway today he blew a cork, is that different from the BJ’s he was getting in the white house. Maybe Hillary will don the knee pads and let off the pressure before his head explodes. If his head explodes there will be little pussies all over since that’s all that has ever been on his mind.
Yes, Mungo and Publicus have no penis.
Sad for them. Maybe one day they will find it in the ass they left it in . . .
Clinton spent most of his time in his eight years in office on “feel-good” activities and used the military for important strategic places such as Haiti. He only discovered the need to bomb Iraq and bin Laden when he was trying to distract the American people from his womanizing.
Last word in Clinton’s rant? Failed. The truth accidently slipped out.
People like Muirego are entering insanity. They are incapable of discerning the truth or even really caring too. They accuse us of being parrots for Bush when it is them who just soak up whatever their leaders tell them.
I guess he missed the debate over immigration, the NSA wiretap program, and the CIA program among Republicans while the Dem’s stood on the sideline offering nothing.
I’m just wondering how much more is going to happen before some of these people start acting out their hateful thoughts on others. What are they going to do on November 8th when the GOP still controls Congress. I just hope Bush and his people have tightened security around them.
In one sense it’s very comical to listen/watch these idiots but in anther way it’s very scary.
You know his “wife” sat on the Board of Directors of Wal-Mart, don’t you???
EEEEEKKKK!
And they reigned over Global Warming per Mr. Bore.
ACKKKK!
And, and, everybody started hating us in the whole wide world when we–bombed aspirin factory, invaded Bosnia without U.N. approval, declared Saddam’s regime illegitimate, etc.
But, but, that was during Slick’s Presidency, …ACKKKK, BLECHHHH, PLTSZXCVJ:LJj!
Liberal dweeb weenies.
muirgeo,
Seems like you don’t believe your own rhetoric. If you really believe what you are writing, you would have moved to your utopia in Iran, Venezuela. We risked our lives to come to America and i can tell you from first hand experience that America is a great country. If you don’t believe that, then you should try to move to another country.
Posted by: LoveAmerica Immigrant
No doubt this is a great country but I want to keep it that way. Selling it off to Multinational Corporations is NOT the way to do that.
Plane and simple the Republican party as it is now stands for nothing more then Corporate rule. I’m a capitalist for sure but I put democracy first. This is supposed to be a government OF, BY and FOR the people. And anyone who doesn’t understand how corporate influence is undermining democracy is simply not paying attention.
The Democrats while not perfect are the party of the people, the party of democracy and the party of the Constitution.
What we have now is an undermining of the Constitution, of democracy and f the people in favor of corporatism……you don’t see that????
People who put corporate interest above the peoples, above democracy and above the constitution are neither patriotic or democratic.
Hey Muirego,
There’s audio of Clinton explaining why he didn’t get Bin Laden when the Sudanese offered him to us you moron.
Or was that doctored by those evil right wing Republicans?
Posted by: kirktoe
And in that audio did he say HE DIDN’T WANT TO GET HIM? or did he say they had no legal grounds on which to take him at the time???
Oh, you didn’t hear about Sandy Berger, right? Are you too busy reading Chomsky?
Posted by: LoveAmerica Immigrant
I don’t think you are lying. I think you are just an ignoramus spouting talking points you heard else where.
Berger DID NOT DESTROY ANY ORIGINAL DOCUMENTS!!!!
Muirgeo: I believe a multinational corporation owns your brain. They only had to pay $.02 for it, but they still got a bad deal.
If you don’t like Multination Corps, then please do move to the Peoples Republic of __________ whatever. They get rid of them at the stroke of a pen, along with the rest of their economies.
You sir are a fucking idiot. Sorry, but you really, really are. Just listen to yourself.
You are the political equivalent of Clay Aiken.
No doubt this is a great country but I want to keep it that way. Selling it off to Multinational Corporations is NOT the way to do that.
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That ‘s why you shouldnot vote for the Dems who are in the pocket of the filthy rich like Goerge Soros and Hollywood left. Bush has done a good job and you are a proof of it.
The Democrats while not perfect are the party of the people, the party of democracy and the party of the Constitution.
What we have now is an undermining of the Constitution, of democracy and f the people in favor of corporatism……you don’t see that????
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This is CONTRARY to the facts: The Dem party now is a party of the filthy rich like Kerry, Kennedy, Boxer and Hollywood. Moreover, the Dem party is in the pocket of the the mega filthy rich like George Soros. The Dem was willing to abandon the oppressed people under the communist countries during the cold war. The Dem party is willing to abandon the poor/oppressed people in Iraq/Afghan and now Iran/Cuba/Venezuela for example. They embraced these rich thuggish dictators like Chavez, Adm at the expense of the people. IN America, what have the Dems done for the poor black people?
Berger DID NOT DESTROY ANY ORIGINAL DOCUMENTS!!!!
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Oh, why did he try to destroy any classified documents at all? If you said that he is sloppy, remember he was the NATIONAL SECURITY ADVISOR. So all your points about clinton national security effort was simply fact-free talking points. Using your own lingo you are either don’t know what you are talking about or you simply not trying to tell the truth
Seems like you may use more facts that Clinton is a pathetic liar.
http://ace.mu.nu/archives/197861.php
Clinton’s legacy is 9/11, this is proof. Its amazing to see the grace George W. Bush gives his enemy and true to the history of what grace does to the godless, it drives them nutts
Mitchell has a good point. You should try to live in Cuba, Venezuela, Iran, or North Korea for example. These countries have no multi-national corporations. All industries are nationalized and supposedly to serve the interest of the people. Looks like these are utopia for you.
Muirego, you f*cking idiot. You are incapable ot distingushing between truth and lie. Sandy Berger stole (proven, he admitted guilt) documents from the National Archives just prior to the 9/11 commission meeting. What do you suppose was so important that he would ruin his shining reputation by this repugnant act? Copies of Clinton war plans. Go away.
Posted by: Zelsdorf Ragshaft III
He didn’t take or destroy any originals and the documents he took were supportive of Clintons actions against the terrorist.
He took them simply because he was being lazy and stupid and not to cover something up. So IT IS A LIE to say he DESTROYED documents. GOT IT!!!