The question is whether they will agree to hear the appeal.
PINELLAS PARK, Fla. (AP) – After losing two consecutive appeals in federal court, Terri Schiavo’s parents vowed Wednesday to take their fight to the U.S. Supreme Court as their severely brain-damaged daughter began her fifth full day without the feeding tube that has kept her alive for more than a decade.
In a 2-1 ruling early Wednesday, a panel of the 11th Circuit Court of Appeals in Atlanta said the parents “failed to demonstrate a substantial case on the merits of any of their claims” that Terri’s feeding tube should be reinserted immediately.
“There is no denying the absolute tragedy that has befallen Mrs. Schiavo,” the ruling said. “We all have our own family, our own loved ones, and our own children. However, we are called upon to make a collective, objective decision concerning a question of law.”
In his dissent, Judge Charles R. Wilson said Schiavo’s “imminent” death would end the case before it could be fully considered. “In fact, I fail to see any harm in reinserting the feeding tube,” he wrote.I remain skeptical of the argument the Schindler’s lawyers have put forth (they claimed that Terri Schiavo’s religious and due process rights have been violated) in their federal case, and suspect the Supreme Court may decided not to hear the case. I still believe their only path to victory would have been to challenge the flimsy evidence to suggest that Terri Schiavo would have wanted the fate she’s now about to meet.
While we’re at it, just whose dog are you Brian?
Both of you, one person or two seem to think that everything is just jim-damn dandy and that the rights of TS-S and other disabled people are being protected by Greer and the rest of the wonderful court system.
Here’s some home work for you boys. Start asking nurses that work with the elderly and profoundly disabled how many patients in thier facility die of dehydration. Not just the young pretty ones guys but the old war horses (the ones who would be honored to be called that) that have been in the work for 30 years or more. Then ask them what the cause of death is when the death certificate is filled out.
Got the stones to do it boys or are you more happy letting the George Felos do your thinking for you?
Benn There said:
“Women and minorities are more often the recipients of so called death with dignity.”
and now says:
>Euthanists report their actions to the same agency the other murderers report their actions, so as to have accurate numbers for people like you.
I assume that this is your snarky way of saying that you actually have no idea how many people die in this fashion every year, much less what the proportion of African-Americans or women is. Let’s try and remember who claimed to have that knowledge. It was you. Now that you’re admitting you don’t you’re trying to pretend that it’s my fault and it’s just plain crazy that I would ask how you could know such a thing. Seriously. Look at your original claim and then read this response and tell me that you’re thinking coherently.
>I am his Highness’ dog at Kew;
>Pray tell me, sir, whose dog are you?
Actually, I’m an independent. I’m not anybody’s dog. That’s why I actually went and read the trial court decisions on this case before coming to any conclusions and posting to message boards on it. When you have your facts straight, it helps to prevent you from making outlandish claims that have no basis in fatc like, “Women and minorities are more often the recipients of so called death with dignity.”
Posted by: jYt at March 25, 2005 09:57 AM
“YIP YIP YIP YIP YIP…..”
Gee you’ve been reading what the courts came up with. Let me see if I have your logic straight:
The courts made an honest and correct finding because to courts made the finding.
Does that cover it?
Here I’ve been wasting my time talking with disabled people that have been gnawed on by the system, including the courts. Further I have been fool enough to listen to people who have witnessed medical murder first hand (nurses and other medical professionals, family members etc) and had the courts,protective services tell them nothing was wrong. WHAT A FOOL I’VE BEEN!
I was so wrong, you’re nobody’s dog. you’re a sheep.
Well this has been interesting. Seeing the mindset of the usefull idiots.
I have a living to earn though and nobody but myself to blame for the time I have wasted on the likes of you.
I wish you all the happiness in the world pretending that everything is as it should be and there would be pure perfection if only everyone would stop disagreeing with you.
I believe that we’ve been talking about the Terri Schiavo case. If you’ve been talking to disabled people et. al. that aren’t related to that case, then I’m failing to see the relevance of these discussions. Yes the medical system disenfranchises the disabled that can’t pay. Yes I’m sure that you’ve talked to family members that feel that their loved ones were killed by doctors. However, you’re fighting the wrong fight here. If the facts of those cases were different from Terri’s, as you say, then I’m not against a different outcome for them. We’re both behind keeping people alive that expressed no desire to die in such a state and whose families want to keep them alive. We’re both behind treating the disabled to the limits of our capabilities and their desires (when those can be expressed).
So, that’s where court documents come in, You seem to think that the only thing relevant about these documents are the judicial opinions. There are also facts, testimony, and relevant laws. When those are taken into account in this case, it’s easy to see why the decision was made as it was. So it’s not my assertion that the courts made the correct opinion because they made it. It’s that the courts made the correct decision because they are supported by the evidence and the law. Perhaps you differ, but trying a case via message boards and 24 hour news is a more flawed system than our current legal one in any case.
I know that you’d rather defer to believing without question articles that are posted on the free republic, but sometimes, actual facts about the case and knowledge of the law come in handy. It’s OK to disagree with court decisions, but it’s nice to have some basis to do so other than, “I don’t like that finding. Eugenics! Eugenics! Someone on the net said Eugenics!” as is your mantra.
Since Easter Sunday is fast approaching and we are all waiting for a bloody miracle here, maybe Terri Shiavo will rise from the dead. But until then, the only thing that could possibly help matters along would be to hold a pillow over her head for a few minutes or to spike a vein and send her into a deep, narcotic induced slumber. While admittedly cruel, it’s far better than starving the poor woman to death. In retrospect that ‘diet’ she tried; i.e., eating whatever you want for dinner as long as you have “two fingers for dessert,” the undeniable cause of her problems, seems to not have been such a good idea in the first place. A lesson well learned; albeit a bit late, for the “soon to be” dearly departed.