If the Dems want to kill her then by golly, I’ll make sure everyone that reads Wizbang knows. I’m now going to live-blogging the Democratic party of the United States trying to kill a sick woman.
This goofball woman said (paraphrased): “Where will it end.. Next week people will want their brother or their sister to be kept alive.” -The nerve
Barney Franks and taken to the floor multiple times to make sure Terri Schiavo was killed. He really is passionate about it…
David Wu (D) Oregon somehow made it a gay rights issue???? [Maybe that explains Franks’ passion -ed]
Jim Davis (D) Florida Says it is a civil rights issue… hmmmm Who exactly is about to have their civil rights violated? Her husband? It is scary how clueless this guy is. — Now is is outright lying. He says (strongly implies) Terri said in her living will that she wanted to die. Shameless.
Rush Holt (D) New Jersey: “By the way… Why are debating this case, i don;t want to be too cynical but could it be because the TV cameras are rolling?” — No you moronic twit, we are arguing the case because you idiots want to kill this woman. I WANT the cameras rolling… That’s why I’m live blogging. I want the WHOLE WORLD to know what you did tonight you shameless idiot. Do you have something to hide?
Barney Franks REALLY wants to kill this woman… He keeps yielding himself more time. Do you think he would give her the lethal injection?
Jim Mooran (D) Virginia is talking about people on life support… This is not a life support issue… They want to stop feeding her and starve her to death. Now he is rambling about tax cuts for the rich… What an idiot.
Bitch Slap of the night— No pun intended– Barney Franks gets up and whines that one of the Republicans was playing doctor on TV. Said Republican, Phil Gingrey of Georgia, got back up to say that he didn’t know if he was on TV or not… But that he was not “playing doctor” because he indeed was one. Franks was a tad deflated.
Eleanor Holmes Norton (d) DC Wants Terri dead… I wonder if Terri was a convicted drug dealer who killed 3 people which side of the argument she would be on.
Oh GAWD Here is Barney Franks again… Just his whining is enough to make me take the other side.
I’ve got to give it to the Dems… they are making the case that the entire republic will crumble if this woman is not killed. When they go all out, they go all out.
(blogosphere diversion) Bill at the Rooftop report (see trackback) says that killing a sick woman is OK if you “nuance” the debate… Now there’s a position I’m sure more people will get behind.
Rep. John Lewis Democrat from Georgia said he wants Terri dead… or I think that is what he said, I couldn’t understand a word the man said. Either he wants Terri dead or he wants us all to be saved and him him an AMEN….
OK I don’t have time to do all the pictures… I’m going to try to spend more time on the goofy things they say.
Brian Baird (D) Washington — Interesting argument… Since she will never be 100% we should just kill her… He claims he wants to take the partisanship out of it… Somehow he’s not convincing. OH! I get it… He is apologizing for the Dems “We are all Pro-life” He must not read the papers.
No Dems embarrassment would be complete without Jerrold Nadler waddling up to the camera. All we are missing now is Wexler… I tuned in late, I probably missed him.
How come the Dems don’t want to give this woman a day in Federal court? goodness knows they are always whining that criminals should get every appeal but Terri should not? hmmmm
Best argument of the night Rep Joe Schwarz (R-MI) made a stunningly powerful argument. He reminded the House that this woman was not on life support. That she could breath et al on her own. That the only thing that they were doing was feeding her… Then he asked the 64 million dollar question… What is to become of all the thousands of people on feeding tubes in the nursing homes and hospitals in this county?… Are we going to kill them all?
grrr I might have missed something, both tuners on the Tivo went to record things and I missed some.
John Conyers (D) Mars, is doing his usual job of reciting Dem talking points… no matter now bogus they are… Again and again the Dems hint that she is is on life support.
Rep Capuano from Mass. is making a stunningly passionate speech about the how the government should “LEAFVE THESE PEOPLE” alone. “STAY OUT OF THIER LIVES.” hmm so I guess he is for private social security accounts huh?
Rep- Mel Watt (D) Scumbagonia- “This vote is costing us money”…. “How many children could we feed with that money?” Then why did the Dems call it then dipshit? OOOOOH Now get this… This is a racial issue. Black people don’t get the same healthcare that white people get so Terri Schiavo does not deserve compassion. What a pig! What a FREAKing (insert harsher word here) pig. I guess Oliver Willis will sent the guy 20 bucks but he is a pig. Where can I get a transcript of this pig?
Quote of the night Sensenbrener “In Florida they have a statute #828.12 that says that if you don’t feed an animal, you can go to jail for a year and be fined 5000 dollars. So in Florida, an animal has a higher right than this woman. And that is a wrong priority.” — I just made that point 2 minutes ago to Allah in the comments
How did Julia Carson of Indiana run a campaign??? The woman is about 100 years old, she can hardly walk, and she can hardly talk… But she did manage to whine about Medicaid… For some reason in her mind since she is unhappy about the state of Medicaid, Terry Schiavo should die. OOOOOK.
For about the 100th time, a Dem has said we are a land of laws and not men…. Yeah, tell that to Clinton when he committed perjury.
Getting ready for the vote. Dems demand a roll call… Dumbasses, then their fingerprints will be on this… They are so politically tone-deaf it is amazing.
Republicans have a quorum and (surprise) it is passing.
It passed by a mile!
Allah, I think the point about prisoners on death row was that there would be an outcry if we chose to execute them by starvation and dehydration. (No matter how humane it seems to let them just waste away.)
It’s obviously not murder when a condemned man is put to death. Some people seem to care more about a serial killer than a handicapped person on a feeding tube. I realize it’s a very complex issue, but this part really does seem simple.
I wonder if Terri is a Registered democrat? She must be, because in her current state she is unable to vote, but once she is confirmed to have died, the democrats would find some method to have her vote, for democrats of course.
(if anyone doesn’t recoginize it, this comment is pure sarcasm directed at the democrats who always fight to prevent a convicted child murderer from being legally executed but who will fight tooth an nail to allow the torture and murder a fetus or to pull the plug on a helpless woman)
democrats – always on the wrong side of the issue – murder the innocent and save the guilty
This is an issue that should be with the families. My dear friend Kelly who has no passed away from cancer was not eating in the week or so at the end of her life. She was stage 4 and ready to die. She did not commnicate this as she was not lucid enough to convey this, but what could be done for her was done. She was being given the nutrients to sustain her vitals and ease any pain, but she was gone. They let her go. Why is this any different.
You and I both know that that Autism is not life threatening. Our Children do not require support in the functioning of their vitals. They need a great deal of support with there developmental hurdles.
Has the issue of her being a burden even been brought up by her husband? As I said before, here is a man who has put himself out there for the scrutney of the public eye, all in an effort to carry out the wishes he was asked. Correct he has moved on, as I am certain other’s have in the same situation. But it does not diminish his care and concern for her and the wishes they had discussed. He seems pretty tenaious about carry this request out. It would be alot easier for him to just relent and go on with his life. I believe scarficing Terri and no amount of money would be worth all this in the end. He has a conviction that is driving him to follow through with this.
Maybe the same drive and determination as you or I might have should someone try to control choices and decisions we would make for our children. I believe this issue ( Autism and developmental disorders) does not compare to what Terri’s issue is.
Involving the government in most cases opens a whole can of worms that you cannot close once opened. You are subject to their ideals and belief systems. Yes, you elect these people into these positions to oversee what is best or that they may reflect your stance on things, but not always and not on every issue. That is were the danger lies when allow the government to act on your behalf. They will do what they want to do with or without consent (by implementing laws and bills). It is a double edged sword and mirrors this situation.
We all view things differently and that’s what creates healthy debate. I may come out of this with a changed perspective or I may not. I am more then willing to concede when I concur with someone in a point, yet also willing to banter my perspective if I look at it otherwise. All opinions are just that, opinions, even if not agreed upon.
I read of a father who took his severely disabled daughter (14 years old, I think) to the drive shed on his family farm and made her comfortable by sedating her to sleep. Then started the car he placed her in so that she might sleep willing she died. The list of suffering that she endured on a daily basis had been decided by entire immediate and extended family was torture for her to carry on. The family was commited to caring for her but felt that her quality of life was of such that they felt it more cruel to sustain her life.
He turned himself into the police and told them what he had done. This was the families laid out plan to do so. He knew the laws were not on his side in doing so and that there would be consequences for his actions. He was prepared to adhere to what might follow. The family weighed out the choice they were making and felt anytime he might serve was once less day she would suffer and he was willing to carry that burden to set her free.
The agony he went through to carry his daugther to the drive shed and let her go was torture to him, yet in the end he wanted to set her free from her shell of exsistance.
I do not post on here with laws, bills and party siding. These things need to be discussed,yes but at the core is a woman, that none of us truly knows what she wanted. A husband who stands by a conviction that this is what she wanted and a family who wants to have her relinquished to their care.
I would hope none of us ever have to come to a cross roads such as this in ourlives.
Well, now that there will be a federal judge reviewing the case, we’ll just have to wait and see about Terri’s fate. In the meantime, the question becomes do you think that congress have overstepped its bounds here by engaging in trial by legislation? The lawmakers assure us that this law is specific to this situation and will set no precedent, but what is to stop congress from intervening every time they feel a state court case was decided wrongly? For those of you who are supporting this why do you feel its ok for congress to undermine the separation of powers among the branches?
In the end, my guess is that the federal judge who receives this case will either refuse to review the case because the proper functioning of the judicial system is being subverted, or he will review the case and come to the same finding as the Florida courts. If this occurs, what’s next?
“Maybe the same drive and determination as you or I might have should someone try to control choices and decisions we would make for our children. I believe this issue ( Autism and developmental disorders) does not compare to what Terri’s issue is. “
But you see where we are right now, is deciding that it is legal and okay for a man to kill his non terminally ill wife (terri is not terminally ill, she is not in a dying proccess, she is severely braindamaged).
Why do we think it is okay for him to kill her-most comments I hear are “well I wouln’t want to live like that” “she is a vegitable” “she is unaware” “she shouldn’t be a burden” etc.
All of those same reasons can eventually be applied to other disabled people.
Today we are all fine and dandy with killing somebody like Terri, but when will the lines start to blur? The doctor who advocates Terri’s death in court also believes that people with altheimer’s and dementia should be “allowed to die.”
To be honest I would rather allow Terri’s parent to take her home and take care of her, than start the car rolling down the eugenics hill.
To be honest I would rather allow Terri’s parent to take her home and take care of her, than start the car rolling down the eugenics hill.
While I agree that the best thing here would be to give Terri to her parents, Just Me, the idea that removing her feeding tube would create some kind of precedent, therefore leading to eugenics is naive. Terri would not be the first person by far to have treatment withheld leading to death, even in absence of a living will. The car your worried about rolling down the hill has already been chugging along for quite a while now, and I haven’t seen anybody killing off disabled people. Just because politicians have decided to make a spectacle out of this case doesn’t make it the first of its kind.
Just Me,
The comments that you quoted, are they from Micheal? Or that from other people stating their opinion on the issue? As to how they might feel given the same situation.
I think the lines have become blurred as to who can be quoted as saying what. We will ever know if this is her wish or not. That is between her and Micheal.
The best case would to release her to her parents. If they deem now or in the future that she is suffering and wish to assist her in dying then they will. But if this law/bill passes they will not be able to act on her behalf on any issue. Double edge sword, rears it’s ugly head.
Lumping all disabled issues into Terri’s given situation in my opinion is completely unrelated.
“He’s been living common law with another woman for years and has two children by her. I’d say she’s his current wife.”
Thomas Jefferson had children with someone other than his wife, are you now saying some of the Founding Fathers weren’t even married to their wives? Wow….