I explained to my beautiful wife that Spiderman fanboys watch the movie on a whole different level because they recognize John Jameson and Dr. Connors and the possibilities they represent, not only for the future of the franchise, but also for this very movie. What if they….
Yeah, I’d have to agree wholeheartedly. As a lifelong Spidey fan, this one came the closest to the comic in terms of story arc and personal drama.
Still, I’m waiting for the smart-aleck side of the web slinger to kick in. That’s what made those books so much fun – waiting for him to crack on Doc Ock’s hair or something equally as ludicrous while kicking his ass,
” I am getting more than a little tired of the villain established/finds out hero
CoreyJuly 12, 2004
I HATE CGI – technology has single-handedly ruined the film industry. It is cheaper than performing the stunts, and it looks it. Albeit, some of that web-slinging couldn’t actually be performed, but goddamnit, I don’t go to feature films not made by Disney to see cartoons. In fact, I refuse to go to a theature to sit through a two-hour long cartoon ever. However, the more and more “sophisticated” these stupid computer geeks get, the worse and worse the infiltration becomes. Anyone see that movie “Simone?” I guess one good thing could come out of this – no more actors.
Bad guys? I saw the potential Green Goblin, Lizard, and Man-Wolf, but where do you see a potential Hobgoblin?
IMO, the greatest weakness of these comic-book movies is that they have to reach further down in the hero’s rogues’ gallery to find a villain.
In the case of Spider-Man, expect me to hop off the train when they reveal Mysterio, Beetle, and Ringmaster.
Jay TeaJuly 12, 2004
Ah, Pennywit takes my bait…
One of the multitudes of people to wear the Green Goblin/Hobgoblin mask was Harry Osborn’s psychiatrist. We saw Harry go bonkers (he might have been seeing a shrink), and we saw Peter talking with a doctor about his “Spider-Man” dreams…
I know it’s a hell of a stretch, but they’ve played faster and looser with the original material before…
And Madfish: you’re right about the Superman movies. But that was B.T.B.B. (Before Tim Burton’s Batman), which redefined the concept of “Super-Hero movies.” Also, let’s not forget that by the end of the Superman movies, he was teaming up with Richard Pryor and campaigning for nuclear disarmament…
Oh, Jay Tea, thou dost not know what thou has wrought.
I don’t see a possibility for the Hobgobling to pick up. The Hobgoblin accidentally stumbled across one of the Green Goblin’s warehouses and became a thug. Meanwhile, Green Goblins II and III were, respectively, Harry Osborne and Harry’s shrink. I still don’t see any possibility for a Hobgoblin in there.
I also didn’t see any sign of the Good Goblin or Demogoblin.
However, don’t you think that Venom and Carnage are both possibilities?
–|PW|–
DarioJuly 12, 2004
It’s not really a fair height to set the bar but a fantastic method for sequencial movies is the style in which Peter Jackson filmed the Lord of the Rings. It’s a monumental investment in time and resources but it flowed from one movie to the other exceptionally well. Sure, it was paced by three different books but Jackson took a lot of liberty in what he included in one movie to the other in so far as material from Two Towers was actually in Return of the King etc..
Perhaps producers would be more willing to experiment with two movies at a time than three? After the first Spiderman they knew they would have some financial success with 2 which is why the end was so well developed for the 3rd installment. I’m just guessing they haven’t written anything for the 3rd yet outside of the hobgoblin establishment. /end ramble.
I explained to my beautiful wife that Spiderman fanboys watch the movie on a whole different level because they recognize John Jameson and Dr. Connors and the possibilities they represent, not only for the future of the franchise, but also for this very movie. What if they….
So, did you spot Stan Lee?
Brian, I spotted him TWICE.
Beat that.
J.
Yeah, I’d have to agree wholeheartedly. As a lifelong Spidey fan, this one came the closest to the comic in terms of story arc and personal drama.
Still, I’m waiting for the smart-aleck side of the web slinger to kick in. That’s what made those books so much fun – waiting for him to crack on Doc Ock’s hair or something equally as ludicrous while kicking his ass,
I don’t know if you’d classify him as an arch-villain, but Superman has Lex Luthor still kickin around hatching plots to take over the world…
” I am getting more than a little tired of the villain established/finds out hero
I HATE CGI – technology has single-handedly ruined the film industry. It is cheaper than performing the stunts, and it looks it. Albeit, some of that web-slinging couldn’t actually be performed, but goddamnit, I don’t go to feature films not made by Disney to see cartoons. In fact, I refuse to go to a theature to sit through a two-hour long cartoon ever. However, the more and more “sophisticated” these stupid computer geeks get, the worse and worse the infiltration becomes. Anyone see that movie “Simone?” I guess one good thing could come out of this – no more actors.
Bad guys? I saw the potential Green Goblin, Lizard, and Man-Wolf, but where do you see a potential Hobgoblin?
IMO, the greatest weakness of these comic-book movies is that they have to reach further down in the hero’s rogues’ gallery to find a villain.
In the case of Spider-Man, expect me to hop off the train when they reveal Mysterio, Beetle, and Ringmaster.
Ah, Pennywit takes my bait…
One of the multitudes of people to wear the Green Goblin/Hobgoblin mask was Harry Osborn’s psychiatrist. We saw Harry go bonkers (he might have been seeing a shrink), and we saw Peter talking with a doctor about his “Spider-Man” dreams…
I know it’s a hell of a stretch, but they’ve played faster and looser with the original material before…
And Madfish: you’re right about the Superman movies. But that was B.T.B.B. (Before Tim Burton’s Batman), which redefined the concept of “Super-Hero movies.” Also, let’s not forget that by the end of the Superman movies, he was teaming up with Richard Pryor and campaigning for nuclear disarmament…
J.
Oh, Jay Tea, thou dost not know what thou has wrought.
I don’t see a possibility for the Hobgobling to pick up. The Hobgoblin accidentally stumbled across one of the Green Goblin’s warehouses and became a thug. Meanwhile, Green Goblins II and III were, respectively, Harry Osborne and Harry’s shrink. I still don’t see any possibility for a Hobgoblin in there.
I also didn’t see any sign of the Good Goblin or Demogoblin.
However, don’t you think that Venom and Carnage are both possibilities?
–|PW|–
It’s not really a fair height to set the bar but a fantastic method for sequencial movies is the style in which Peter Jackson filmed the Lord of the Rings. It’s a monumental investment in time and resources but it flowed from one movie to the other exceptionally well. Sure, it was paced by three different books but Jackson took a lot of liberty in what he included in one movie to the other in so far as material from Two Towers was actually in Return of the King etc..
Perhaps producers would be more willing to experiment with two movies at a time than three? After the first Spiderman they knew they would have some financial success with 2 which is why the end was so well developed for the 3rd installment. I’m just guessing they haven’t written anything for the 3rd yet outside of the hobgoblin establishment. /end ramble.
When are we getting X-Men 3?