I have obtained this document sent by the Office of the Director of National Intelligence. It appears the Washington Post is about to push the bounds of intelligence reporting. The intelligence agency seems concerned.
Be sure to head on over to the Times' site and read the letter from ODNI.
1. Posted by
jim m | July 17, 2010 3:12 PM | Score: 4 (10 votes cast)
jim m:
Since the 60's the aim of the MSM has been to take down the US government, destroy the government's ability to wage war or protect the nation via intelligence. For the MSM the enemy has been the US Government whether republican or dem. The difference is that currently the obama administration is on the same side as the media.
1. Posted by
jim m | July 17, 2010 3:12 PM |
Score: 4 (10 votes cast)
4. Posted by
TPEasy | July 17, 2010 7:36 PM | Score: 3 (7 votes cast)
TPEasy:
"Again" should be added to the end of that headline. Dana Priest; the same reporter that blew open the "CIA secret prison" story is responsible for this one too.
4. Posted by
TPEasy | July 17, 2010 7:36 PM |
Score: 3 (7 votes cast)
9. Posted by
James H | July 18, 2010 8:06 AM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
James H:
I'd withhold judgment until I see what the WaPo is doing. I can think of a few angles that might be worth examining if we're looking at orgs with Top Secret clearance.
9. Posted by
James H | July 18, 2010 8:06 AM |
Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
10. Posted by
mpw280 | July 18, 2010 9:36 AM | Score: 1 (3 votes cast)
mpw280:
The NYT has to be very pissed off, it is usually their job to expose secret government programs and ruin chances to roll up terrorist or illegal operations. How did the NYT lose the rights to shaft the intelligence community again.
mpw
10. Posted by
mpw280 | July 18, 2010 9:36 AM |
Score: 1 (3 votes cast)
12. Posted by
James h | July 19, 2010 5:54 AM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
James h:
The first part of the story is out today, and it looks like the focus is on the big bureaucratic picture -- the fact that there are so many agencies and so many groups involved in intel that it's impossible to keep track of all of it.
12. Posted by
James h | July 19, 2010 5:54 AM |
Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
13. Posted by
AJB | July 19, 2010 8:20 AM | Score: -1 (1 votes cast)
AJB:
Glad to see conservatives hate useful investigative journalism. Nothing pisses off right-wingers more than journalists actually doing their jobs of exposing government waste and civil liberties violations.
Besides, if you actually took the time to read it it shows that the intelligence community is so bloated and inefficient that it failed to detect the warning signs to prevent the Fort Hood shooting and the Christmas pants bomber. THAT is the real threat to our security, not the journalists who expose the incompetence of these agencies (or contractors, really).
13. Posted by
AJB | July 19, 2010 8:20 AM |
Score: -1 (1 votes cast)
14. Posted by
hcddbz | July 19, 2010 11:58 AM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
hcddbz:
the report is just a bunch of hasty information thrown together to overwhelm the reader.
They say the Intelligence community did not do two things. Ft Hood and Underpants bomber.
The Army actively protected their soldier in the name of diversity.
Underpants:
That was a failure the information was submitted. However the people who should have worked did not do their job. A report is not worth it if the station chief does not forward it.
The man just like the Time square bomber fit the profile but again diversity plays a large role.
1. You should have multiple agency working on the same projects. So that you can have independent verification of data and different perspective of data.
2. SIGINT, COMINT, and SATINT does not matter without HUMINT.
We need to start dealing with bad people because that where real information is.
3. They use the word SCIF a lot but do they tell the reader what one is?
4. The best intelligence is compartmentalized
I also love how Big Government is great thing for Health Care but for the National Defense well we got to be small to work well.
14. Posted by
hcddbz | July 19, 2010 11:58 AM |
Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
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Comments (14)
Since the 60's the aim of t... (Below threshold)1. Posted by jim m | July 17, 2010 3:12 PM | Score: 4 (10 votes cast)
Since the 60's the aim of the MSM has been to take down the US government, destroy the government's ability to wage war or protect the nation via intelligence. For the MSM the enemy has been the US Government whether republican or dem. The difference is that currently the obama administration is on the same side as the media.
1. Posted by jim m | July 17, 2010 3:12 PM |
Score: 4 (10 votes cast)
Posted on July 17, 2010 15:12
2. Posted by hcddbz | July 17, 2010 3:47 PM | Score: 2 (8 votes cast)
This all good and praise worthy but if some exposes Valerie Plame. We need to know who and take down everyone in the White House.
2. Posted by hcddbz | July 17, 2010 3:47 PM |
Score: 2 (8 votes cast)
Posted on July 17, 2010 15:47
3. Posted by SillyPuddy | July 17, 2010 3:52 PM | Score: 5 (11 votes cast)
"Is the Washington Post sabotaging US intelligence efforts?"
---
Do most bears ch1t in the woods?
3. Posted by SillyPuddy | July 17, 2010 3:52 PM |
Score: 5 (11 votes cast)
Posted on July 17, 2010 15:52
4. Posted by TPEasy | July 17, 2010 7:36 PM | Score: 3 (7 votes cast)
"Again" should be added to the end of that headline. Dana Priest; the same reporter that blew open the "CIA secret prison" story is responsible for this one too.
4. Posted by TPEasy | July 17, 2010 7:36 PM |
Score: 3 (7 votes cast)
Posted on July 17, 2010 19:36
5. Posted by Justrand | July 17, 2010 8:59 PM | Score: 2 (4 votes cast)
this thread sounds like a Geico commercial.
answer: "DUH!!"
5. Posted by Justrand | July 17, 2010 8:59 PM |
Score: 2 (4 votes cast)
Posted on July 17, 2010 20:59
6. Posted by 921 | July 17, 2010 9:12 PM | Score: 1 (3 votes cast)
"Is the Washington Post sabotaging US intelligence efforts?"
NO.. Business as usual.
6. Posted by 921 | July 17, 2010 9:12 PM |
Score: 1 (3 votes cast)
Posted on July 17, 2010 21:12
7. Posted by Caesar Augustus | July 17, 2010 9:56 PM | Score: 0 (2 votes cast)
If you're actually surprised by this then your picture appears in the dictionary next to the definitions of "naive" and "gullible."
7. Posted by Caesar Augustus | July 17, 2010 9:56 PM |
Score: 0 (2 votes cast)
Posted on July 17, 2010 21:56
8. Posted by ODA315 | July 18, 2010 12:25 AM | Score: 1 (3 votes cast)
The sound of partying was heard coming from Frank Church's grave.
8. Posted by ODA315 | July 18, 2010 12:25 AM |
Score: 1 (3 votes cast)
Posted on July 18, 2010 00:25
9. Posted by James H | July 18, 2010 8:06 AM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
I'd withhold judgment until I see what the WaPo is doing. I can think of a few angles that might be worth examining if we're looking at orgs with Top Secret clearance.
9. Posted by James H | July 18, 2010 8:06 AM |
Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Posted on July 18, 2010 08:06
10. Posted by mpw280 | July 18, 2010 9:36 AM | Score: 1 (3 votes cast)
The NYT has to be very pissed off, it is usually their job to expose secret government programs and ruin chances to roll up terrorist or illegal operations. How did the NYT lose the rights to shaft the intelligence community again.
mpw
10. Posted by mpw280 | July 18, 2010 9:36 AM |
Score: 1 (3 votes cast)
Posted on July 18, 2010 09:36
11. Posted by GarandFan | July 18, 2010 10:38 AM | Score: 1 (3 votes cast)
Why not?
The government's record on prosecutions for such activities hasn't been something to brag about. Just ask Pinch and Bill.
11. Posted by GarandFan | July 18, 2010 10:38 AM |
Score: 1 (3 votes cast)
Posted on July 18, 2010 10:38
12. Posted by James h | July 19, 2010 5:54 AM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
The first part of the story is out today, and it looks like the focus is on the big bureaucratic picture -- the fact that there are so many agencies and so many groups involved in intel that it's impossible to keep track of all of it.
12. Posted by James h | July 19, 2010 5:54 AM |
Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Posted on July 19, 2010 05:54
13. Posted by AJB | July 19, 2010 8:20 AM | Score: -1 (1 votes cast)
Glad to see conservatives hate useful investigative journalism. Nothing pisses off right-wingers more than journalists actually doing their jobs of exposing government waste and civil liberties violations.
Besides, if you actually took the time to read it it shows that the intelligence community is so bloated and inefficient that it failed to detect the warning signs to prevent the Fort Hood shooting and the Christmas pants bomber. THAT is the real threat to our security, not the journalists who expose the incompetence of these agencies (or contractors, really).
13. Posted by AJB | July 19, 2010 8:20 AM |
Score: -1 (1 votes cast)
Posted on July 19, 2010 08:20
14. Posted by hcddbz | July 19, 2010 11:58 AM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
the report is just a bunch of hasty information thrown together to overwhelm the reader.
They say the Intelligence community did not do two things. Ft Hood and Underpants bomber.
The Army actively protected their soldier in the name of diversity.
Underpants:
That was a failure the information was submitted. However the people who should have worked did not do their job. A report is not worth it if the station chief does not forward it.
The man just like the Time square bomber fit the profile but again diversity plays a large role.
1. You should have multiple agency working on the same projects. So that you can have independent verification of data and different perspective of data.
2. SIGINT, COMINT, and SATINT does not matter without HUMINT.
We need to start dealing with bad people because that where real information is.
3. They use the word SCIF a lot but do they tell the reader what one is?
4. The best intelligence is compartmentalized
I also love how Big Government is great thing for Health Care but for the National Defense well we got to be small to work well.
14. Posted by hcddbz | July 19, 2010 11:58 AM |
Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Posted on July 19, 2010 11:58