It's only a matter of time before the Washington Post, the New York Times, the Chicago Tribune, the LA Times, CBS, MSNBC, ABC and CNN carry it?

Epochs, that's a time metric, yes? What about "never"?

"The jig is up" - good choice of words. Seems like this claim has already been fisked and found lacking. (link - Kansas City Star)

But an examination of the actual notes shows the names of the interview subjects have been redacted. There is no proof that an ACORN employee told the FBI "the purpose of the 'fraudulent cards'" was to cause confusion....etc., as the release claims.

Indeed, it appears much more likely the notes actually come from a Republican election board worker.

The first batch of notes is attached below. The critical interview begins on page 8 of the PDF. (Be prepared for some pretty sloppy handwriting.)

In the upper right, next to the box that covers up what appears to be the name of the interview subject, the word "Republican" appears to have been written.

The rest of the interview, on pages 9, 10, and 11, includes notes that strongly suggest an election board employee or director, and not an ACORN worker, was making the statements

Sloppy lies again.

Could the fact that many ACORN workers are minotiries and to a great extent ACORN works for and with minorities have anything to do with the repeated attempts to lie and smear and take down ACORN? NO! NO! NO! Of course not!

I guess it's all Obama's fault again.

Let every reader know, whether it wishes him well or ill, that Lee Ward shall pay any price, bear any burden, meet any hardship, support any lie, oppose any truth, in order to assure the survival and the success of progressive fascism.

Oh, I'm a facist, eh? Lol.

Same link as above, the Kansas City Star newspaper.

In short, the key document referred to by the Missouri GOP appears to have been misread: It is a Republican election worker who told the FBI the "fraudulent cards" cause confusion, and NOT an ACORN worker.

That would make the documents much less explosive than the GOP claims.

"Obviously, we don't know who was being interviewed," said state Jonathan Prouty with the Missouri Republican Party.

They didn't know who was being interviewed!

And the handwritten "Republican" in place of the person who was being interviewed name on the form is as close as we get to knowing the identity of the person.

And yet the right wing smear machine runs with scissors as fast as they can anyway, trying to get ahead of the truth and facts.

Lee is a good little brownshirt.

I notice how none of you have yet to refute what Lee Ward posted.

Why is that?

Lee - "All eight employees involved in the scandal later pleaded guilty to voter registration fraud."

"Why is that?"

'Cause we weren't born yesterday.

jim x - go butt butts with Lee. Its what you do best.

Tom Fitton, president of Judicial Watch, said that these documents prove that the Obama Judicial Department must conduct a national investigation of ACORN.

Lie about what the documents say -- then declare there must be an investigation into the organization because of those lies.

In the upper right, next to the box that covers up what appears to be the name of the interview subject, the word "Republican" appears to have been written.

The rest of the interview, on pages 9, 10, and 11, includes notes that strongly suggest an election board employee or director, and not an ACORN worker, was making the statements.

And what about the handwritten documents?

Seems that Judicial Watch took down the documents after the Kansas City Star posted their story.

No, really - they did. You can no longer access the documents on the link provided by Judicial Watch.

You can no longer check for accuracy. Thanks to judicial watch you can't see for yourself what the Kansas City Star found.

How fracking convenient for the liars...

Hey Fitton! Put back up the documents! What are you afraid of???

Maybe Fritton is busy carving a backwards B in his cheek. Lol!

jim x wrote:

I notice how none of you have yet to refute what Lee Ward posted.

*sigh*

Here, let me try. The PDF document appears to show that at least 15 people were interviewed. These interviews were some portion of the basis for the eight voter fraud convictions. The names of the interviewees have been redacted, which, in my very limited experience with FOIA matters, seems pretty standard.

There are 131 pages of notes. In a tiny space in the corner of one of the 131 pages, according to Leeward, the investigator wrote the word "Republican." I've looked at it. It may say "Republican." It may say "unpublished." It may say "unforgettable." It may say "pqwebonasfd." It may say "Call me Ishmael."

It doesn't much matter, because the balance of the documents formed the basis for eight criminal voter fraud convictions. If one "Republican" named "Ishmael" was the only source of these facts, any first year law student could have walked the client.

Perhaps Lee can explain away the voter fraud convictions for us since he knows the evidence far better than anyone, including the jury.

Time for Lee and Jim x to scurry back under their rocks.

Iwog can't keep his facts straight.

In a tiny space in the corner of one of the 131 pages, according to Leeward, the investigator wrote the word "Republican." I've looked at it. It may say "Republican." It may say "unpublished." It may say "unforgettable." It may say "pqwebonasfd." It may say "Call me Ishmael."

According to Lee Ward? I quoted the Kansas City Star.

And with a wave his hand iwog declares the matter moot.

Conveniently ignoring the bulk of what the Kansas City Star found:

"But an examination of the actual notes shows the names of the interview subjects have been redacted. There is no proof that an ACORN employee told the FBI "the purpose of the 'fraudulent cards'" was to cause confusion....etc., as the release claims.

Indeed, it appears much more likely the notes actually come from a Republican election board worker....

In the upper right, next to the box that covers up what appears to be the name of the interview subject, the word "Republican" appears to have been written.

The rest of the interview, on pages 9, 10, and 11, includes notes that strongly suggest an election board employee or director, and not an ACORN worker, was making the statements"

Opps, sorry - you can't blame it all on me, iwog.

So...iwog declares he's researched the matter, and determined that it doesn't say "Republican" it says "Call me Ishmael".

Yeah, that's show that brown shirt Lee Ward! lol...

What's been shown, jim m, is that this statement "ACORN employees...confirmed to the FBI that its organization is an arm of the Democratic Party and engaged in deliberate voter fraud." is the figment of right wing imaginations.

The documents don't show that at all.

In fact, the documents show that the quotes that are the basis for that claim are from interviews with a Republican and with an election board director or employee.

Not "ACORN employees confirming...." - that's bullshit.

Lee ...

are you saying that you are certain that Acorn did not commit voter fraud ?

If they were so clean, why have they disbanded ?

Go ahead keep defending the criminals ... who knows maybe someday you'll regret it ...

Lee,

Did you read that Iwog was quoting the ORIGINAL doc's. In skoolin' terms that is called 'primary source'. Newspapers, they are a 'secondary source'. Primary is always gives more value than secondary.

Just sayin'...

And since talking to you, Lee, is somewhat akin to talking to bricks placed in a wall, have a nice night.

OK, Leeward, let's take your assertion that 4 whole pages out of the 131 pages of interview notes (that's 3%) can be attributed to the Republican Ishmael. That still leaves (uhhmm) 127 pages of interview notes that defense counsel was unable to impeach, hence the eight voter fraud convictions. Odd that eight people associated with ACORN were convicted when Leeward/Star claim there was "no evidence."

Speaking of impeachment, aren't you concerned in the least that ACORN might have committed fraud during the election?

Lee Ward, here let me save you the trouble.

Republicans didnt want to hear sworn testimony, or review documents under FOIA until a black man became president.

Leeward wrote:

The 4 page assertion is the basis for the claim that "ACORN employees...confirmed to the FBI that its organization is an arm of the Democratic Party and engaged in deliberate voter fraud."

The above statement is a falsehood.

The word which Leeward/Star claims is "Republican" appears on the top of Page 8. The words: "ACORN HQ is working for the Democratic party" appear on Page 15 of the notes, when the agent is clearly interviewing a different person. In fact, the documents show that the Page 8 interview took place four days before the Page 15 interview.

Speaking of lies... were you a liar in 2008 when you called candidate Obama a pathological liar, Lee? Were you a racist then?

SCSIwuzzy,

Now you know the little Racist Wuss that is Lee Ward won't answer that.

I tried to hold him to it last week.
Racist Wuss was reduced to making fun of my screen name.

And that's all he had...
Kinda sad, really.

The scanned docs are on the Judicial Watch website. On page 15 of the first doc it quotes the witness "Acorn HQ is wkng for the Democratic Party" beside the redacted name it says "is from Wash D.C. Acorn"

Obviously they are attributing that quote to an Acorn employee.

Explain that one Lee.

Eric,

Lee Ward does do requests. Lee also doesn't do challenges.
This would tax his brain cell, and Lee can't risk that.

Oops that should read:

Lee Ward does NOT do requests. Lee also doesn't do challenges.
This would tax his brain cell, and Lee can't risk that.

How about:

Lee Ward works for the Democratic Party and deliberately participates in fraud?

The "jig"?? Sounds kinda racist! By the way, did they vote for the brown skinned One?

'H"ow about:

Lee Ward works for the Democratic Party and deliberately participates in fraud?"

Its ok with Barry, so its ok with Me.

Retired military,I hope u do realize Odumbo isn't black. The correct term is "Mulatto"