So he passes Obamacare and he gets a bump from the ignorant and from the deluded nutroots. It will fade fast.

Following shortly after will be the burning anger of the majority of the electorate that didn't want this bill. Then the taxes will take effect. Increased taxation without any benefits. Benefits don't kick in for 4 years. How happy will all the rubes be when they learn that their taxes are going up, that they will lose their insurance, that their doctor is changing professions or retiring and they are getting nothing in return?

With a President willing to sign into law legislation that has never been voted on and dem congressmen who are already accusing constituents with felony harassment for calling to voice their opinion, how far are we really from a socialist police state?

My guess would be about 24hours.

At first I was just going to say, "Nope, no way," to Glenn's question about the media.

But then I thought about that a bit and now think we may actually be near to the point where someone might report on Obama's falling popularity. A lot depends on the health care vote. If it gets suddenly postponed or canceled, or if the vote results in the defeat of the measure, Obama's falling popularity could suddenly be acknowledged and reported upon by the MSM.

Failing that, I still think the MSM would still rather ignore his worsening circumstances. Accordingly, even a razor-thin one vote win would be enough for them to continue on their current path.

My guess is that any unpopularity gets spun by the MSM as voter frustration with his failure to get his policies enacted.

After all, as Newsweek said, "We're all socialists now". So conservatives are by MSM definition a fringe population that gets lost in the margin of error in their polling. Any unpopularity cannot be people who are actually against his policies. Such people do not exist officially.

So his unpopularity is from failure to move his plans forward. Congress's unpopularity is due to their failure to pass his legislation fast enough and for letting the evil GOP (who clearly hold their seats through some kind of fraud since there aren't any conservatives anymore to vote for them) stall the healthcare bill.

Rule 1: it's never the dems fault and nobody ever disagrees with their socialist plans.

I'd love it if Stupak told Obama that his promise of support came with an expiration date...

And if it looks like it's gonna pass, a bunch of Republicans simply voted "present" in honor of Obama.

J.

We'll see if the MSM ignores the Democratic bloodbath at the polls this November. I'm sure they'll spin it as 'the usual mid-term loss'. This statement will be funny as hell if the Dem's lose both the House and Senate majorities.

Noted that AP and WaPo articles both touted the flips from no/maybe to YES! from yesterday. Odd. No mention of the flips from yes to NO! It's like they didn't happen. Go figure.

Let's see.

HCR passes by a slender margin - razor thin margin.

HCR related taxes do into effect in 2010 but no benefits until 2014. The Bush tax cuts end and taxes go up - again - in 2011.

Employers begin restructuring in response to increased taxes and costs. More people lose their jobs. People who keep their jobs will have to shoulder an increased share of the company provided health benefits if their company will still provide same. HCR health benefits are still years away.

Congress, as in both houses, goes Republican this year . Next year, the Congress starts enacting legislation that the President will veto. Bill after bill being vetoed. Budgets that fail to fund HCR mandated programs. A President that cannot being himself to negotiate except from a position of power. Government shuts down.

The Clintonistas think it's Clinton v Gingrich Part Deux with the Media acting as the Greek Chorus in the tragedy, except this time, the Tea Party movement and others similarly dissatisfied with government enters as an opposing chorus and dominates the stage of public opinion using the new media.

When the President of the United States cannot take out Air Force One for a spin without getting an special appropriation from Congress, the thrill of the office will be gone.

Faced with declining approval rating across the board from already historic lows and the prospect of losing early in the primaries, Barack Hussein Obama will instead declare victory. Having completed the tasks he set out for his administration, he will resign from the office less than 36 months after assuming the Presidency.

It will be unprecedented.

It's not that Supak's promise had an expiration. It's that he demanded a quid pro quo and when he learned that he was going to be stiffed he walked.

Stupak is quite happy to sell us all out. They just haven't found his price...yet.

Faced with declining approval rating across the board from already historic lows and the prospect of losing early in the primaries, Barack Hussein Obama will instead declare victory.

...and cancel the remaining primaries and general election 'deeming' himself to have won.

Yeah. That sounds more like his nature.

Hide thedecline Barry!!