The fact that this worked against Rush Limbaugh means that they will continue to use the race card. Unless we stand up to stop it.

See, this is why you have a shell company buy the team, and then go and buy the shell company.

So Rush can't own a team because Dumavan McNabb is against it? I hope he fails, and blows chunks on the field. Again.

This is another sad precedent the left started. The first and second were the vile treatment of GW Bush and his family and Sarah Palin and her family being attacked and rediculed by the left. The result is Obama's not even being given a chance, his girls are fair game as is his wife. Now anyone in the opinion/news business will not be able to invest in certain ventures because of ideological oposition. Now football is driven by politics. Have the left no shame? Nevermind. They are reprobate. ww

No one is really a fan of Rush especially in one of the most integrated American pastimes.

I think I'll go punch a liberal as a result....

I wrote to the NFL telling them I will not watch there games and will not buy products advertised on their programs. If 30 million Rush listeners do the same, I'll be willing to bet they back off.

"I find it incredulous that race-baiters and race-pimps have been able to successfully lead the charge to derail a man's plans to achieve his dreams."

Limbaugh went down drowning in his own racist words. And he makes millions each year off of racists who want him to say those words.

Justice prevailed.

Vic

Victimy,

Are you black? If you are, I bet you're not one of the clean, articulate ones. Oops. Did that sound racist?

Yo VIO... Can you substantiate your charges? In any way? Or are you one of the easily led, mind-numbed members of the leftist psychophants who've engaged in yet another successful smear campaign?

Just wonderin'.

"I wrote to the NFL telling them I will not watch there games and will not buy products advertised on their programs. If 30 million Rush listeners do the same, I'll be willing to bet they back off."

7. Posted by Zelsdorf Ragshaft III

Do you have any idea how many minds, eyes, and/or wallets the NFL controls? The NFL is a gaming device and so I accept your bet.

BTW, regarding your Rush stats; don't confuse listeners with fans. Most cities have two simultaneous talk radio choices, both likely syndicated by right/ center-right entities. Talk radio listeners learn to suck up that fact in lieu of the even more retarded musical format offerings.

Personally, John Gibson beats Rush in my tiny demographic. Other winners are Savage, and the excellent Brian and the Judge.

Losers: Mister Laura IngraHim, and I,Robot Hannity...ugh!

Boortz has his moments, Beck is a girl.

P.S. McNabb's Revenge! Even if this was one of Rush's monthly publicity stunts, the McNabb comments must sting a bit. Maybe Rush was blacked out that whole history thing.

"Victory is Ours 7:39"

And stupidity is YOURS. His comments were not
racist. They were about the stifling PC being
rammed down our throats daily. Sharpton and
Jackson must be your heroes....not to mention a
strutting bantam rooster, Obama. Get your
head out of your nether regions, Vickie.

"Yo VIO... Can you substantiate your charges? In any way? Or are you one of the easily led, mind-numbed members of the leftist psychophants who've engaged in yet another successful smear campaign?

Just wonderin'."

Limbaugh's words are right there in the article linked above, see the last three paragraphs.

Surely you read the article before you spouted off -- since all of the right wing bloggers are avoiding quoting Limbaugh in their rants -- surely you're not just another right wing idiot who follow the crowd like some dumb ass?

just wondering...

Limbaugh, a conservative supporter of former US president George W. Bush and critic of current US President Barack Obama, was forced to resign from an ESPN NFL television job in 2003 after comments about Philadelphia's McNabb.

"I think what we've had here is a little social concern in the NFL," said Limbaugh at the time. "The media has been very desirous that a black quarterback do well."

Limbaugh also described NFL games as looking like a gang fight without weapons.

Yeah, professional NFL athletes are just like gang members... if you are a fat-headed, drug-addicted loud mouthed bigot like Limbaugh.

There are other quotes out there, some of them disputed, but all along the same lines.

Vic

Once again, unelected members of the press and the "elite" decide what others can do, while being totally unable to do the same thing themselves. Are they displaying their feelings of inadequacy, much like "President" O'Bumble in HIS actions and words?

Those of us who still believe in personal liberty and individual freedom are going to end up having to break the heads of those that don't. It's either that or surrender, and I WILL NOT SURRENDER.

Vic you are loving that bait. Seems to work for you. Personally I can't see the racism in his statement. I was wondering if you could show exactly what makes it racist.

Three words:

Silent Partner

"bryanD"

Maddow, Matthews, Ed, Olberman must ALL send
shivers down your leg. They're mainstream
mavens who teach us all we need to know....
mmmm....mmmm....mmmm. Your name is an anga-
gram for "branDy". Methinks you'll drink
less when the Obama taxes kick in.

Rush might actually walk away from this issue with more money in his pockets. A lot of people attributed poorly sourced quotes to him. It is very hard for public people to win defamation suits, but it is not impossible.

NY Times vs. Sullivan sets the standard for defamation cases of public people with the term

"actual malice" that the statement was made with knowledge of its falsity or with reckless disregard of whether it was true or false.

Many of the quotes attributed to Rush are obviously poorly sourced. The media is not free to quote somebody falsely. They have a duty to verify the quotes they attribute to somebody. Attributing inceniary quotes whose only provenence is some guy named Cobra, starts falling into the realm of reckless disregard for the truth.

And since he has been forced out of his Rams deal he now has cause of action.

VIC cannot demonstrate the racisim in Rush's comment because there is none. Because VIC is a black homosexual, he thinks he is entitled to a different standard for facts.

Rush is a lot of things but racist is not one. Bombastic, self promoting, also very talented. The left has tried and tried to find an equal to him but there is none.

I have listened to Rush off and of for 20 years. He has never promoted racism or hate like say MSNBC does. I am supportive of Rush because for a time before cable news and internet, he was the lone voice standing up for conservative ideals. I am not selling him out for reprobate lefties or race pimps. I am more appreciative and loyal then that. ww

#16

It's "Joe Biden" speak for the New Math of
the Obama administration.

Dave Checketts, you are a coward.

Rich cant's see: "Personally I can't see the racism in his statement. I was wondering if you could show exactly what makes it racist. "

You can't see the racism in this?

Limbaugh also described NFL games as looking like a gang fight without weapons.

You think he would have made that statement while watching a team of fist-hurling, stick swinging white boys from Canada?

No, Limbaugh thinks a NFL football team - which no doubt had a high number of black athletes as is typical these days -- Rush Limbaugh thinks watching them is just like watching a gang fight.

Cause you know all gang fights are full of black men wearing shoulder pads... right?

Seriously - anyone who would come to Limbaugh's defense must be so in love with the GOP that they have blinders on when it comes to racism and bigotry.

You know, you can embrace his politics and still decry his racism - it won't hurt; it'll actually demonstrate some integrity and honesty. Try it, you might like it. You can be a conservative and NOT be a bigot.

Novel idea.

Vic

I also will be notifying the NFL that I am done watching...and will read up on who is advertising on NFL broadcasts and boycott them.

Do I think I will bring the NFL to its knees? Nope. But I "vote" with my wallet these days. I have fewer choices to be sure...but the choices I DO have are ones I believe in.

MSNBC, et al, continue to play the Salem Witch Trials, only instead of screaming: "WITCH!", they scream: "RACIST!".

Truth, in both cases, be damned.

And once again, VIC shows the compassionate and forgiving side of the left.

Something said 6 years ago is still just as fresh, just as offensive, as if it were just being uttered today. Nothing so unforgiveable can EVER be forgotten, right?

But Roman Polanski rapes a girl in the vagina and anus - and he's given a pass.

So it's pretty clear that the compassion and forgiveness is very much dependent on your political orientation. The left can obviously do no wrong, while nothing the right does can ever be forgotten.

"Something said 6 years ago is still just as fresh, just as offensive, as if it were just being uttered today. Nothing so unforgiveable can EVER be forgotten, right?"

I showed you clowns what Rush said - now it's your turn to show me where he apologized.

Holding breath... not.

Vic

"I also will be notifying the NFL that I am done watching...and will read up on who is advertising on NFL broadcasts and boycott them."

LOL. Are you figgin' serious? Of course not, you're lying through your teeth or you don't watch NFL to being with.

Vic

Still not seeing where the racism is Vic. I see you projecting a lot of your own meanings into his comment,but not pointing out what exactly makes it racist. There are all kinds of gangs of all colors and a lot of them fight. Do you feel there can only be black gangs? Seriously man. Where is the racism?

actually, Vic, I'm totally serious...and my wife is thrilled. It'll free up a lot of Sundays.

"Racist!" is indeed the new "Witch!". Just as in Salem, no proof is required...the accusation itself is enough to damn someone.

You're pathetic, Vic...but would fit right in with the insane packs of girls in old Salem.

He has been defamed... he has been financially harmed. Think there any lawyers who want to take the case? Let's see... who has the deepest pockets?

Well VIO--You just outed yourself as racist.

Many white and Asian kids are in gangs. But you OBVIOUSLY associate "gangs" with "blacks" and that is nothing but racism.

Thought your hatred and racism was hidden? No, it's out there for all to see. Your remarks about Rush Limbaugh were/are nothing but projection.

It makes you wonder who's the more racist - someone who is constantly looking for any possible racist interpretation of any and every statement by someone he doesn't like, or the person who looks beyond skin color and treats all folks according to how they treat others?

Vic - that 'racist' brush is getting really low on bristles. It just doesn't carry the paint it used to.

V.I.O., "You think he would have made that statement while watching a team of fist-hurling, stick swinging white boys from Canada?"

I have to say, it surprises me but clearly VIC and I agree about this typically racist statement, "She's your typical white person."

Obama was over the line and he is clearly a racist. He and his words must be condemned. His Nobel Peace Prize must be forfeit. Such racist, demeaning words cannot be allowed to contaminate such and august prize.

Right VIC?

Racists are those who believe that blacks are inherent under performers who need a hand up from the self-proclaimed benevolent white guys to make it in this world. They simply do not have the intelligence or fortitude to succeed on their own merits. In other words, pretty much all liberals are racists.

I'm still not holding my breath, and there's still no sign of anyone coming up with an apology from Limbaugh for his racist remarks 6 years ago that might elicit and warrant some compassion and forgiveness.

Let the drug-addled bastard go home to his mansion in Florida and cry in his Oxycontin-laced beer. Hopefully he's looking over his shoulder a bit more now that his racism has boiled up to the top if the news cycle again. Someday Limbaugh is going to piss off the wrong guy with his racist bigotry.

And it figures that he'd want to buy a team that can't win a game.

He always backs losers.

Vic

Hey VIC, when you going to post the source of those alleged statements? You know, dated news articles, videos etc.

POST THE SOURCE VIC, OR SHUT THE HELL UP! Any idiot can repeat what others have said, especially when the statements were made up to begin with.

PUT UP, OR SHUT UP VIC!

"Hey VIC, when you going to post the source of those alleged statements?

It's the article linked by the author of this post.

Vic

Vic I noticed that you didn't ever bother quoting Limbaugh's response o this nonsense.

"My comments this past Sunday were directed at the media and were not racially motivated,"

If you go back and look at his comments they were not as much about McNabb as they were to the media's response to him. In fact no one called them racist until the following day when McNabb did.

So there was no apology since he didn't mean them as racist. He explained what he meant. It is bigots like you Vic who cannot see that.

Hopefully he's looking over his shoulder a bit more now that his racism has boiled up to the top if the news cycle again. Someday Limbaugh is going to piss off the wrong guy with his racist bigotry.

Should we notify the police of your death threat on Limbaugh Vic?

And Limbaugh has denied making those statements.
The only one he's acknowledged in the one on McNabb, and that statement IN CONTEXT would be damned hard to be construed as RACIST. As for the other statements........PUT UP, OR SHUT UP!

VIC Sweetie,
Several other posters have politely asked you you some very pertinent questions. Why do you not respond? Inability to make a cogent argument perhaps

VIC only demands proof from others. When pushed to the wall, he just moves on to another thread.

Vic those comments that people are accusing Limbaugh of saying are completely unsourced and no credible news organization is standing by them.

Show us the original context. I know you won't because you can't. You're a feeble, bigoted weasel. You make unfounded allegations and don't back them up. You take unfounded, unsourced lies and hold them up as truth.

If you can't show the source have the guts to say so. I know you won't because you are a gutless coward.

From a Jeff Jacoby column back in October of 2003:

Limbaugh charged the media, in other words, with practicing a kind of affirmative action toward McNabb -- holding him to a lesser standard of excellence than white quarterbacks would be held to. If he had been talking about the University of Michigan's admission policies, or about Jayson Blair's career at The New York Times, nobody would have raised an eyebrow. But he said it about professional football, and for that he is being denounced as a vile bigot.

The uproar started with the Philadelphia sportswriters, but by Wednesday even presidential candidates were calling for Limbaugh's head. Wesley Clark condemned his "hateful and ignorant speech" and said he "should be fired immediately." Howard Dean labeled his remark "absurd and offensive." Al Sharpton scheduled a news conference, saying he would call for a national boycott if Limbaugh weren't fired.

The NAACP weighed in, too. In a press release on Wednesday, the organization's president, Kweisi Mfume, demanded that ESPN fire Limbaugh "or at the very least, provide an opposing point of view."

Apparently, Mfume didn't know that ESPN had provided an opposing point of view -- in the person of fellow "NFL Countdown" commentator Tom Jackson, who challenged Limbaugh's description of McNabb as soon as it was uttered.

"Rush," Jackson protested, "somebody went to those championship games. Somebody went to those pro bowls. Somebody made those plays. . . He has been a very effective quarterback for this football team over the last two or three years." Two other members of the panel, Chris Berman and Steve Young, agreed.

But not everyone on the show thought Limbaugh was off-base. Michael Irvin listened to the colloquy, then offered a succinct opinion: "Rush has a point."

Somehow, none of Limbaugh's on-air colleagues noticed that his comment about McNabb was "hateful and ignorant." Jackson, who is black, took him to task, but only over his assessment of McNabb's football skills. Irvin, who is also black, agreed with Limbaugh! How was it that no one on the ESPN lineup noticed Limbaugh's outrageous breach of decency? How could they have kept silent about something so grossly racist?

Answer: Because it wasn't racist.

Re # 38
"Should we notify the police of your death threat on Limbaugh Vic?"

I think that might just be a prudent course of action. Vic strikes me as a very angry person.
Angry people sometimes do very stupid things.

"Should we notify the police of your death threat on Limbaugh Vic?"

Well, you should learn how to read and understand English beyond a 3rd grade level, Jim.

But when you fail at that, which you no doubt will, feel free to hop on your bicycle and peddle down to your local police station and tell them all about it.

"And Limbaugh has denied making those statements."

Then link and quote that.

Vic

The truth has no meaning to the left. I would much rather be a friend of someone who has been accused of saying "racist" things (with no proof) than accepting a football player who has committed a felony. My vote goes to the underdog (the slandered radio host who has yet to be proven a racist). Why can the criminal football players get a pass, but an honest conservative gets blackballed (oops, there goes the racist words) for no reason.
We need to bring back consciene, morals, class, and integrity. Throw out the libs and bring back the conservatives. Go Sarah!!!
Madalyn

Vic Darlin',
You're still not responding to the aforementioned questions. It is, however,encouraging to know that you've moved beyond the 3rd grade level so perhaps you could respond in terms a 4th grader, such as yourself, would understand.

Here's the audio from CNN.
http://media.eyeblast.org/newsbusters/static/2009/10/2009-10-13-CNN-Sanchez-Rush.mp3

Rush has issued statements that are a blanket denial.

You're a coward hiding behind lies.

And I'll start my management position at Harvard next week. Ass.

I answered on Preistap's thread.

Good luck in your new position, Jim. I bet those toilets will sparkle.

Vic

I promise that I'll stay out of any medical issues you might have so there is no concern of wrong doing.

Well Vic I have to admit I'm more than a little disappointed in you. I had assumed that your passionate defense of the Limbaugh smear meant that you had some reasoned arguments or specific proof to offer us.

Vic is changing his argument now to different quotes and ignoring the one's that ran on CNN that are the issue here. He's also running away from this thread.

"Good luck in your new position, Jim. I bet those toilets will sparkle.

Vic"

Little one, you were fibbing weren't you? You haven't moved beyond 3rd grade playground banter.
Shame on you. How many days in detention should we give him?

My comments in this thread referencing racist remarks refer to the article and quotes linked by the author of the post above. Nothing more.

Jim, on the other hand, interjected with some nonsense about CNN blah blah blah in an attempt to change the subject away from the quotes linked in the post above.

Jim later admits on another thread that the NFL quotes citing Limbaugh's racism are actually genuine.

I have not denied the NFL comments.

It's about time.

Vic

Vic,
Don't make that mistake again.

I acknowledge that the NFL quotes were accurate, not that they were racist.

The CNN quotes are very much what this was about because they were put front and center and they were run on other networks as well. They are far more explicitly racist and were used to color his real comments as being far worse than they really were. CNN and other media outlets ginned up protest against him based on poorly sourced and biased reportage. They could have run with well sourced material and still had a good story, but they chose instead to run with anonymously sourced, defamatory misquotes that they have had to do a walk back on.

Those quotes were far more incendiary and it was the day after they were put out in the media that this blew up.

Your trying to avoid them is the issue. You still have not backed down off of those.

Those were the quotes I have focused on as being false and I have not made any issue with any others being false. I have even posted responses directly addressing the NFL quotes.

So are you going to stick with the bogus quotes or admit your error?

Vic,

You couldn't show me where racism was in Rush's comments. I thought for a bit you were actually going to try. You didn't. You basically just spewed out the same crap to stir up everyone here. Hope you got your giggles. Obviously you are more interested in baiting people. It seems everything you have claimed is an fault in conservatives/republicans more aptly applies to yourself

Limbaugh also described NFL games as looking like a gang fight without weapons.

This is so wrong. It's NBA games that look like a gang fight without weapons.

"Your trying to avoid them is the issue. You still have not backed down off of those."

I never cited them to begin with, so I don't need to "back down off" of anything.

I only referenced the quotes included in the article written by Rick above, which states:

"I couldn't even consider voting for him," Irsay said at the NFL owners meetings Tuesday.

"When there are comments that have been made that are inappropriate, incendiary and insensitive ... our words do damage, and it's something that we don't need."

Limbaugh, a conservative supporter of former US president George W. Bush and critic of current US President Barack Obama, was forced to resign from an ESPN NFL television job in 2003 after comments about Philadelphia's McNabb.

"I think what we've had here is a little social concern in the NFL," said Limbaugh at the time. "The media has been very desirous that a black quarterback do well."

Limbaugh also described NFL games as looking like a gang fight without weapons.

If you want to change the subject away from those two quotes referenced in the article Rick linked to that's your business - I'm staying on topic, and not addressing any other quotes that are out there. I understand that there have been challenges to other quotes attributed to Limbaugh.

Thank you for admitting that the NFL quotes I've been referring to throughout this thread are valid and accurate.

Seriously.

Vic

[quote]"I think what we've had here is a little social concern in the NFL," said Limbaugh at the time. "The media has been very desirous that a black quarterback do well."p/quote]
Question: how is pointing out the racism of others, racist?
[quote]Limbaugh also described NFL games as looking like a gang fight without weapons.[/quote]
I've run a Google search for "gang fight without weapons." No actual sourced Limbaugh quote is found. Can you point me to a video or dated transcript, instead of hearsay?

"I think what we've had here is a little social concern in the NFL," said Limbaugh at the time. "The media has been very desirous that a black quarterback do well."

Limbaugh also described NFL games as looking like a gang fight without weapons.

Donovon McNabb is a media favorite. That is why they are defending him. There have been other black quarterbacks in the NFL over the years. The first one was Warren Moon, who played for the Houston Oilers (Tennessee Titans). The Media did not gush over him, like they are doing with McNabb. The reason is that Moon was a Conservative black man and to them a conservative black man is lower than a snake's belly.

"You couldn't show me where racism was in Rush's comments. I thought for a bit you were actually going to try. You didn't. You basically just spewed out the same crap to stir up everyone here. Hope you got your giggles. Obviously you are more interested in baiting people. It seems everything you have claimed is an fault in conservatives/republicans more aptly applies to yourself"

I was raised in Alabama during the 1960's, therefore you know it when you see it. Limbaugh is infested with racist and bigotry; it will destroy him from the "inside out". By his own words he shall destroy himself.

The Republican Party is a disgrace and abomination. There is something putrid about these guys and gals. The Republican Parties of past decades did not make me want to shower after I hear or see them speak on issues. I think it may have started with the Newt Gingrich Crew a few years back.

I was raised in Mississippi in the 1960's and the 70's. In fact, I have lived in the South for most of the 47 years I have been on this planet. I know racism when I see it. The Democrats were racist then and they are racists now. When I hear people talk about how vile Republicans are, I want to ask them why being called "a typical white person" isn't racist? That someone who thinks that I am a racist because I am a white male from the South infuriates me. I may disagree with someone politically but race has nothing to do with it. Correctly reporting special favors someone received, whether it is due to race, gender, creed, religion, lack of religion or connections is speaking truth to power.

I was raised in Alabama during the 1960's, therefore you know it when you see it. Limbaugh is infested with racist and bigotry; it will destroy him from the "inside out". By his own words he shall destroy himself.

The Republican Party is a disgrace and abomination. There is something putrid about these guys and gals. The Republican Parties of past decades did not make me want to shower after I hear or see them speak on issues. I think it may have started with the Newt Gingrich Crew a few years back.

Where did you get the idea that the Republicans were the racists in the Alabama and the South in general,in the 1960s? There was not a Republican in power in the South during that time. It was the Democrats that were in power. They are are the ones that promoted the Jim Crow Laws, the poll taxes etc. It was not until Ronald Reagan, that the power of the Southern Democrats was broken and the Republicans started taking over the positions that were held by Bull Conner, George Wallace and other high powered Dems and kicked out a lot of the influence by the KKK.Yet you and your ilk claim that never happened. To that I call bullshit

Of course all Republicans/whites are not racist. I 'am refering to Limbaugh and the most current crop of "so called" conservative republicans ie, Hannity, Beck, Coulter, etc. I feel that people as such have disgraced a party that was once held in high esteem.

As I posted on the next thread, Rush is no victim. The NFL, however is a victim of its own prejudices.

Rush Limbaugh has made and is making millions off knowing how to manipulate the passions of Conservatives to serve his own ends. Mike Malloy and Keith Olbermann do the same thing with Liberals. I am in favor of making millions. It would be better if it is made from the labor of actually producing something that is tangible and of value to our country. Its time to bring back the Fairness Doctrine so that we may begin to make forward progress.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fairness_Doctrine

Thank you for your time.