This may have been going on for awhile, they are just now "unveiling" it publicly.

In face, the UK is the most surveilled country in the world. Almost everything they do is on camera.

"(The Surveillance Society) predicts predicts that by 2016 shoppers could be scanned as they enter stores, schools could bring in cards allowing parents to monitor what their children eat, and jobs may be refused to applicants who are seen as a health risk."
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/6108496.stm

I don't think they're going to wait until 2016, they'll just "unveil" their plans.

heh, that should be *In fact,

Let's see. Britain has become progressively more accepting of "courts" within their Muslim population subordinating British law to Sharia law and they are worried about monitoring every freakin' mode of communication to uncover terrorist plots? Yeah, this makes a lot of sense and will surely go a long way to preserving the civil society and Western ideals of Great Britain. Now it is time to guess which bozo in our government is going to propose formalizing this practice in the United States,

Kim, in this feature you make me proud by raising civil liberties concerns, but then you break my heart in the next feature by attacking the ACLU, which is a major watchdog of civil liberties.

Certainly, I cannot always support everything that the ACLU supports, but overall they are important civil liberties watchdog, and society would be far worse off without these lawyers working to protect the public when government goes too far and over-reaches.

The move has alarmed civil liberty campaigners, and the country's data protection watchdog last night warned the proposals would be "unacceptable".

As if there's anything they could do to stop it. Once-Great Britain's lack of a written constitution means that Parliament can do anydamnthing it wants, and there is no recourse or defense.

Flesh eating zombies, Paul, they are flesh eating ZOMBIES. Now if they were vegetarian, I can see you empathizing with ACLU lawyers...

My personal experience with ACLU lawyers is that they will lie, distort and even ad hominem they way through a debate to push their agenda - and they are relatively slick at it. I managed one standing ovation from a crowd once fighting back at their lies in an educational meeting they had wangled their way into. I think I'm on their s**t list now. They had a new set of lies to counteract my points against them the first round, and at the Senate Hearings it was closer to a draw.

If you approve of their unethical tactics, we could use a little more support for waterboarding here too from you.

There is an automated "dictionary" system that monitors all communication within the USA as well. It's not 100% real-time, and for the authorities to jump too readily would compromise "sources and techniques" anyway, but it is in place to protect political VIPs.
It's been fully in place in the Anglophonic world for about 20 years.

Support the ACLU? Sorry, no. They like to deal in absolutes, except when you try to apply it to them. Sorta like Congress, but they don't run for election.

P.S. (to stay on par): Follow Kim's "Tammy Bruce" hyperlink. Unless the goal of the twitterer is to organize a riot or an orgy, the method seems pretty lame and non-aware. I.E. "I am watching teevee now."

What we need is a system like this in America to keep track of those religious fanatics, gun nuts, ex-military militia types, teabaggers, and other malcontents while we still have a country left. All it would take would be a few billion dollars to refocus the McBushHitlerCheney surveillance systems, and we could create the safest country in the history of the world.

Imagine. No more political bickering, dangerous rightwing radicals, annoying right-to-lifers, or seditious internet revolutionaries. Just get rid of a few dead-enders that keep stirring up discontent. A system of work camps somewhere in Flyover Country to keep them from stirring up trouble, and the Brights could fulfill their Destiny. Nothing but a country run by and for the enlightened. But we have to act now, while we still have unstoppable power, to avert disaster of biblical proportions.

Let's all sing along now:

"Imagine no possessions
I wonder if you can
No need for greed or hunger
A brotherhood of man
Imagine all the people
Sharing all the world "

(Excuse me. I'm gonna go throw up.)

I worry sometimes that something like this might happen in Ameri

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Message from the NSA: The American government does not monitor your phone calls, emails, or Web site visits. Kim, you need to call your mother more often. Jeff, in Buford, Texas? You have three overdue library books. And try reading something other than Danielle Steele novels.
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If liberal groups would actually support Constitutional rights, we could avoid this problem. But, alas, that isn't going to happen. As liberals try to secure a lasting grip on power, they find that constitutional limits get in their way, and so they undermine the system to get what they want. Liberals in general, and the ACLU in particular, only support those parts of the constitution that they like. Other parts are ignored.

In Britain, they have no written Bill of Rights or a Constitution that protects individual rights, and so their statist politicians are free to undermine individual rights with little roadblocks. They only need to move slowly so that the masses get used to each new progressively nasty outrage.

In American we have a Bill of Rights, but the game is like _Animal_Farm_, strip words of their meaning so that the written Constitution doesn't mean what it says anymore, and abuse the educational system so that each generation fails to understand that they are being turned into serfs. They only need to move slowly so that the masses get used to each new progressively nasty outrage.

And so it goes.

Stick around. This British foray into fascism will seem tame by the time Hussein is finished.

The difference between what the NSA 'might' have setup and what the UK is doing is that your average police department will never have access to any of the information in the US. They're talking about blanket usage across all police departments and alphabet, or in the case of the brits, alphanumeric agencies.

Google resides in most everyone's posterior already (and above us as well, in the clouds). Those scum do it for the m o n e y. The Brits? They're on their own.

Signed: Gewge free

P.S.
Fook the ACLU (all the way up with a red hot poker (why yes, I duzz feel beddah/tyvm).

Paul

"Certainly, I cannot always support everything that the ACLU supports, but overall they are important civil liberties watchdog, and society would be far worse off without these lawyers working to protect the public when government goes too far and over-reaches.
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If they would try to be less partisian in who they go after I wouldnt have as much of a problem with them as I do. I saw no help for Monica Lewinski from all the leftist groups who proclaim to help those oppressed by govt. and or help women. Personally I feel that Lewinski was the cause of 95% of her own troubles and if she had not bothered having sex with Clinton she would have had a lot fewer problems. At the same time if a hooker is raped it is still rape and whoever the rapist is needs to be punished.

Well, that answers itself, doesn't it? A couple of spare PC's, some short perl scripts, a broadband connection and a nice long list of random sites. Flood the zone, boys and girls. Let's see just how much storage they can muster...