53% of WE the people failed to see Obamalala for what he is. WE Conservatives need to make the case for keeping the country from slipping further into socialistic oblivion. WE can take back more seats in the House and Senate in 2010 if WE don't shoot ourselves in the foot by nominating lukewarm RINOs. WE need to nominate candidates that can deliver the message without dilution and stand up for traditional American values.

Socialistic oblivion is code word for democrat. These Rinos need to vamoose.. Olympic blow, Susanna vodka Collins and Arlen Spesticles just for starters.

Thank You for the late night ruminations Shawn. Nicely done.

Ripley: Just tell me one thing, Burke. You're going out there to destroy them, right? Not to study. Not to bring back. But to wipe them out.

WE own this country.

WE put these arrogant, pompous asses in their positions, and WE have the power to get them out.

WE are the only ones truly too big, too strong, and too proud to fail".

And WE did, resoundingly in 2006 and even more so again in 2008.

You say WE the people, but you are not THE people. You make up a very small portion of THE people. Most of THE people reject you and your hateful, disastrous policies.

Most of THE people reject torture, cronyism, war for profit, unchecked greed and lack of oversight in economic policy. You lose.

Just what the hell is your point?

Most of THE people reject torture, cronyism, war for profit, unchecked greed and lack of oversight in economic policy. You lose.

You are correct in that most reject torture. What we do/did at Gitmo is not, in my humble experience, torture. Ask the fine purveyors of that commodity in, oh, Rwanda and I'm sure they'd be happy to demonstrate.

Cronyism, I'll give you that one. Many of Bush's choices weren't my favorites, but at least his cronys were qualified for their jobs and payed their taxes.

War for profit?!?!?! Just where, oh where are these profits of which you speak? And before you go about with the "Haliburton" talking point, I happen to have worked with Haliburton when I was in Wyoming once upon a while ago. They are fine people, and a large organization with many capabilities. My point? You don't (if time is a factor) open up bidding for contracts to do jobs that (really) only one company has the capability to do. If I wanted to get a coalmine up and running as quickly as possible, I would go straight to Caterpillar and P & H Minepro for their products and services. I don't waste time and money to see if the local Ma and Pa owned building company with their 2 backhoes and road grader can put in a lower bid.

Unchecked greed and lack of oversight?!?! Lack of OVERSIGHT!?!?! When did this economy start tanking? After the Dems took control of congress. Who has oversight at that point? The dems. I've said it before and I'll say it again. Those idiots down at foggy bottom caused ALL of this economic meltdown. They made the rules wherein the housing bubble was created by FORCING (via stiff fines) the banking industry into "Affermative Action Mortgaging." So at that point, the banks had a choice. Lose money via fines, or get stinkin' rich and play by the new rules being mandated by the idiots down at foggy bottom.

That was a ticking time bomb, and it happened to occur on Bush's watch. Don't dilude yourself from thinking otherwise.

Ryan
Take a few more hits on that joint and drink some more Kool Aid. The big bad men will go away soon.

As far as torture at Gitmo, it will come out in torrents as that sick place is closed and things come to light. It was never American to imprison human beings, no matter what you might have suspected them of, for life with no kind of hearing or trial. That shit should have NEVER happened on America's watch. I've read a newly released man's story about having his penis amputated for god knows why or what. The stories will come out, whether the dittoheads like it or not. Bush's America is not the real America.

Our country is waking up from a truly sick chapter in its history.

We were all there when the World Trade Center was attacked, but none of us knew the dark, sick things that a scared, paranoid, and blind America would tacitly let go on as long as we didn't have to see it.

Recently a Gitmo official, freed of the sick bonds that held him under the Bush administration said that "probably 85% of the detainees here are innocent."

What's really hard to swallow is that you can't be innocent or guilty of crime that you will never be charged with.

The America you people want to live in is not the America that the founders envisioned.

As far as believing the profound collapse of our economy, as deep as it is happened in the last 2 years, well you belong in the category that is cheerleading the first paragraph of my post.

The great thing is, you people don't matter anymore.

"Ryan
Take a few more hits on that joint and drink some more Kool Aid. The big bad men will go away soon."

I don't need to hit a joint or drink Kool-Aid, RM.

They already went away.

"Ryan
Take a few more hits on that joint and drink some more Kool Aid. The big bad men will go away soon."

I didn't have to smoke pot or drink Kool-Aid RM.

All I had to do was give all the money I could spare, make phone calls, drive 8 hours to Colorado to canvass on 2 weekends in October, and then vote.

None of you will do that. You don't really care enough or believe enough.

Ryan, answer the question: who stopped these people from going to trial?

"All I had to do was give all the money I could spare, make phone calls, drive 8 hours to Colorado to canvass on 2 weekends in October, and then vote.

"

Umm you HAD to give all the money you could spare?

Me I figure the govt takes waay to much of my money as it is without me giving it any or without letting them take more of it.

Why should I call robot lemmings who are like "vote umm umm yeah I guess. But I dont know what the candidates stand for. Umm whose running again?"

Sorry. People need to get off their sorry asses and find out for themselves the 5 Ws.

But you keep on hitting that joint and drinking that Kool AId. We are seeing the results of your labor Ryan. You got exaclty what you paid for. An empty suit.

Ryan

As far as GITMO goes. GIVE ME A FREAKING BREAK. Jeez. you are doing way too many drugs and drinking way too much Koolaid.

Oh my oh my the guards like they cut off a man's privates. And I believe it because I read it ummm somewhere.

Oh yeah and this stuff hasnt hit the news media after Obama's been in charge for 2 months yet. Jeez give me a break.

"Our country is waking up from a truly sick chapter in its history. "

Well with OBama at the helm it is getting harder and harder to ignore what is happening to America.

:What's really hard to swallow is that you can't be innocent or guilty of crime that you will never be charged with.;

I charge you with being a total ignorant ass. Too bad you are guilty.

"The America you people want to live in is not the America that the founders envisioned."

You got that right. They umm actually wanted people to work for themselves, be free of govt interference, not have judges writing laws and dictating from the bench, not have nitwits like Pelosi and Ried in Congress, not have the word God stricken from just about everything, and they actually wanted Americans to be free from the bonds of govt. Look at the what the dems have done to those ideas.

"As far as believing the profound collapse of our economy, as deep as it is happened in the last 2 years, well you belong in the category that is cheerleading the first paragraph of my post. "

Actually it started under Carter and got worse Under Clinton. THen led by Frank and Dodd it got worse and the whole house of cards got blown down under Pelosi and Reid.

Really Ryan when you do wake up in the real world and not the OBama induced coma come back and talk to us.

Should read:

"" ... (envy-motivated, rage-engined and hatred-driven mobbed-up murtadd Muslim Marxist moron/ideologue and otherwise gaumlessly grinning and girlishly giggling empty galabia that) has mesmerized millions, (READING)) his way into their (collectivist-ized) psyche(s) ... ""

Brian Richard Allen
Los Angeles CalifUBAMBIcated 90028 -- and the Far Abroad

Obama's Laugh???

What most people are not discerning is, is that Pres. Obama is somehow aiding us in facing this "shadow" or darkness of greed in our society. He is not trying to Hide it or Cover it up! Ironically, he is being blamed for not trying to Fix it in a hurry, so it will not be Exposed..... But to truly fix it, we must face it, identify it and generate enough public consensus so that it can be changed. That is how change is made. That is why I see Pres. Obama as really a true change agent. True and lasting change can only come from the people, demanding change. That is why Obama can laugh, he knows that the fat cats' days of unchecked greed and speculation are numbered!

Now GOP's new buzz word is "unsustainable", however, what was really "unsustainable" as the recent events so adequately portray is that George Bush's Iraq War, tax cuts to the wealthy, jobs going over seas, tax breaks to companies that shipped jobs over seas, deregulation of banks and insurance companies, and more (which I will leave to the experts to flush out), is the really true Unsustainable and break down and collapse of our economic system, fabric of society (bridges, roads, jobs, education), you name it, he failed in all aspects of this society. There are "tent" cities popping up all over United States because families can no longer sustain to live in a house because they no longer have a job!

This new buzz word "unsustainable" is a hoax, disingenous and hypocritical. Remember, they want Pres. Obama to Fail!

And lastly, let's be Clear, George W. Bush's first year in office was spent more at the Ranch then in Washington. Where was the Party of No's outrage then? May be if George had spent more time in D.C. working, they would have been more alert about the signs leading to 9/11, just a thought.....

Angelight -

I believe you've manged to delude yourself into giving Obama significantly more insight and motivation than is actually there - or that he's ever shown in the past.

Obama excells at getting people to believe what they want to believe about them - he's said so himself. If you look at his past record, he's got nothing at all to show for his time as a community organizer, Annenburg Challenge management, as a State senator, and as soon as he got into the Senate he started running for President.

He's a one-trick pony - he can convince people to vote for him. He's got nothing beyond that - and it's showing.

1. Obama's Rush Limbaugh-remark

and

2. the AIG bonus-flap

have succeeded in dividing the Republicans. They're flailing about, discombobulated, in complete disarray. They're the Keystone cops without the humor. Good luck in 2016.

Liberal Agenda:

>---FULL--STEAM--AHEAD--->

The BBC is reporting that AIG execs to repay bonuses.

Obama wins another round.

*fist bump*

$135 million down, $7 tril to go.

Oh, boy. At this rate, we'll be paid back in, oh, 51,000 YEARS.

Assuming Obama doesn't pour out MORE water like an elephant pissing on a flat rock.

Wow. Yippee. Huzzah. I can barely contain my excitement over giving those greedy rapacious bastards the finger. Woo-hoo. Ha-ha. Neener-neener-friggin'-neener.

Yawn.

Really, somehow I just was never able to worry much about AIG when Obama was spending money like a drunken sailor. (Apologies to drunken sailors everywhere...)

It's like a kid dipping some water out of the Niagra river, and his parent whapping him and telling him to pour it back so it'll go over the falls properly. Hell, the stimulus package had legislation SPECIFICALLY allowing the bonuses - and THAT didn't magically insert itself.

How many other bits of wastage are in the stimulus package, or the other loads of 'stimulating' money being tossed out? I think there's NO concept in Washington of federal funds being something that should be conserved, saved, or managed effectively. They're to be used for political payback or to buy votes - anything else is just a side effect.

Adriane

Are you really that big of an idiot or just acting like one? Inquiring minds want to know.

BTW only some of the AIG execs are going to repay the bonuses.

Personally I would drag the govt through the courts.

I hope these Obamalala subjects keep it up. It makes the contrast between total socialism and what they see as American values more stark and obvious. And the screeching about Bush is good too. Keep it up please.

19:

Re: AIG bonus repayment:

Different sources say different percentages. It's all speculation. I doubt that 1¢ will really be returned (remember they're accountants). The Administration and the bankers got to "save face" and that's all that matters.

Much better to LOOK like you're doing something constructive than actually DO something constructive, right Adrian?

Saving face... when our politicians are reduced to pontificating and bloviating BECAUSE THEY NEED TO PROTECT THEIR IMAGES you really ought to ask yourself whether they should be there in the first place.

2010...straight Republican vote for me! No Democrat will be spared.

I don't live in CA and can't vote directly to get Nancy Pelosi out, but I can stop sending Democrats to DC to keep her propped up in power.

I don't live in Nevada either, but I can stop sending Senators who vote how Harry Reid tells them to vote.

And I'm and darned sure that I am not sending any more Democrats to kiss Obama's behind, vote with him, and ruin the country.

The more Republicans we send to DC, the less power we give to Obama, Pelosi and Reid.

All Democrats need to go. 2010 can't come soon enough for me!

Great late night ruminations! You're not alone. I and millions of other people feel the same way.

Obama is NOT too big to fail! And I hope he does in a very BIG way.

They're leaving jobs and returning bonuses in
full.

http://www.reuters.com/article/businessNews/idUSTRE52N0AO20090324

When they're all gone from AIG, who is going to
clean up the mess? Congress?
The bonuses were agreed upon contractually before bail out money was considered spring of 2008.
The bonuses were retentive to keep these
employees on the job until all the problems
were resolved. So much for that.

I did not vote for President Obama, however, I am willing to give him a chance to prove himself. Sure there have been some mis-steps in his efforts to fill his cabinet and his blunders in TV interviews. But one thing you are not looking at is the change he has wrought that is truly epic and nearly miraculous in scope. Who would have thought just 2 months ago that we would view George W. Bush as a genius?

Has everyone taken their loyalty oath to Obama yet?

I agree, Shawn. WE the people need to set some heads rolling in 2010. Lots of pink slips all the way around. Hopefully enough people will have woken up and smelled the coffee by then.

Also, as an offside, I'm not against torture totally. It's a coercion tool unlike any other. It works really well on enemy combatants. I would add, too, that if we brought the gallows back to courthouse lawns and had public hangings, the crime rate would decelerate overnight.

Burt -

LOL!

"You don't know what you've got 'till it's gone..."

You trolls are still bashing GW. Wow! Live in the here and now.

Maggie, I agree. Since congress thinks it is fair game to rewrite contracts or void them, I say they should also go to the autoworkers union and tell them their contracts are null and void and put in a more practical contract.

GW Bush has 8 years of executive experience in the big great state of Texas. Obama has zip experience. He is and will remain an empty suit. I know it would not take long before most people woke up to the fact this guy does not know what he is doing. 2010 will be a fine year for conservatism.

The Gitmo comments are so off the charts, this guy should be banned. He is obviously mental. ww

Angellight,
Read "Atlas Shrugged" and you'll realize that the old "successful people are greedy" whine was already cliche in the late 40s-early 50s.

I'm not worried about greed per se, I'm worried about arrogance and the assumption that using economic principles that have never worked in practice but make people feel good will solve the current problems.

Define greedy. I bet all of us acted greedily one time or another. ww

Wildwillie: BHO did too have experience: his resume read: 4 years teaching Saul Alinsky's: "Rules for Radicals" U Chicago, 22 years Black Liberation Theology, 10 years of Socialist Radical Change see Bill Ayers, 18 years affiliation with ACORN (The Black Panthers political arm) I saw this nightmare coming like an Atom Bomb, but the real bastards in this whole fiasco are the jour-whore-nalists that pass for the press. They deliberately hide the truth while playing the attack-dog role for the enemies of the state. It is no less than journalistic malfeasance, no more deserving of first amendment rights than any enemy combatant. And notice these whores now want to tell us what language is now acceptable? This is truly a Kafka moment.

Adrian Browne:

Liberal Agenda: >---FULL--STEAM--AHEAD--->

And that's why you're hearing a growing number of people shouting... "THAT'S A CLIFF AHEAD".

Steve m, my bad. He does have experience. Just not the kind that could help this country. ww

So Shawn invents this strawman about Obama being too big to fail, complete with the right-wing inventions of "The Messiah" and "The One", only so he can pump his chest and disagree with himself.

Mmmmkay.

Great post.

Hey Brian, remember the L.A. Times when it ran, Obama the 'Magic Negro'?

How about when Obama himself stated that those unsure of who to vote for will have a ray of light shine on them, and they will receive an epiphany to vote for him?

Probably not since it was Farrakhan who stated, "the Messiah is absolutely speaking" and it was Oprah who stated in Iowa "He is the one!"

Idiot...

Oh, so now Farrakhan and Oprah set the political tone in America? But I thought we're supposed to ignore Rush because he doesn't speak for the right! Who do you think ran the ads calling Obama "The One"?

Your panting and pointing aside, "Obama is too big to fail" is still just a lame strawman.

See just how friggin stupid Brian is...can't even admit that he was mistaken on the right-wing invention statement...idiot liberal.

The statement stands, the media and the liberals have to much invested in him to let anything stop their plans from going forward. If Obama falters, so does their agenda.

Your panting and pointing aside, "Obama is too big to fail" is still just a lame strawman.

That's right. It is a strawman that the libs are pushing.

Shawn said that he is not to big to fail-and he's likely to do that in a spectactular way.

See just how friggin stupid Brian is
...
39. Posted by Brian

Says the guy who can't even get his own name right.

That's right. It is a strawman that the libs are pushing.

Says Shawn:

All this teases a question: Is Obama too big to fail?

Hey Shawn... Sue called you a "lib"!

Touche!

I messed up there, yup, that's me...

See how easy it is?

a browne - "Obama wins another round."

Specifically what did he do to get some of the AIG money returned?

If your answer is anything related to nothing your correct. If not you're just dreaming.

The reality is a combination of faux outrage perpetrated by the lamebrains in congress that fueled death threats and the idiotic and possibly unconstitutional tax bill aimed at AIG.

And BTW, guess you failed to notice, barack hussein obama reportedly will veto that tax bill IF it hits his desk.

So, just what did he do adrian?

If no one is allowed to fail, can anyone really succeed?

angellight

"What most people are not discerning is, is that Pres. Obama is somehow aiding us in facing this "shadow" or darkness of greed in our society"

PUT DOWN THE COKE STRAW AND STEP AWAY FROM THE TABLES.

Geez. You sound as if he is a benovant god who only wants to help us stupid mortals.

I mean really, drugs are bad for you.

BTW Moderaters

angellight is alas once again plaguerizing

WHEN IS THIS FRAUD's IP GONNA BE BANNED. THIS IS AT LEAST THE 2nd TIME that this poster has copied WHOLE CLOTH from another's work (as disgusting as that work is).

http://letters.salon.com/news/feature/2009/03/24/geithner/view/index3.html

Obama's Laugh......
What most people are not discerning is, is that Pres. Obama is somehow aiding us in facing this "shadow" or darkness of greed in our society. He is not trying to Hide it or Cover it up! Ironically, he is being blamed for not trying to Fix it in a hurry, so it will not be Exposed..... But to truly fix it, we must face it, identify it and generate enough public consensus so that it can be changed. That is how change is made. That is why I see Pres. Obama as really a true change agent. True and lasting change can only come from the people, demanding change. That is why Obama can laugh, he knows that the fat cats' days of unchecked greed and speculation are numbered!

Now GOP's new buzz word is "unsustainable", however, what was really "unsustainable" as the recent events so adequately portray is that George Bush's Iraq War, tax cuts to the wealthy, jobs going over seas, tax breaks to companies that shipped jobs over seas, deregulation of banks and insurance companies, and more (which I will leave to the experts to flush out), is the really true Unsustainable and break down and collapse of our economic system, fabric of society (bridges, roads, jobs, education), you name it, he failed in all aspects of this society. There are "tent" cities popping up all over United States because families can no longer sustain to live in a house because they no longer have a job!

This new buzz word "unsustainable" is a hoax, disingenous and hypocritical. Remember, they want Pres. Obama to Fail!

And lastly, let's be Clear, George W. Bush's first year in office was spent more at the Ranch then in Washington. Where was the Party of No's outrage then? May be if George had spent more time in D.C. working, they would have been more alert about the signs leading to 9/11, just a thought.....

---------

BTW moderators

Here is the original article that angellight is plaguering from

http://www.mydd.com/story/2009/3/24/8941/53065

Wow, listen to all these crazy righties justifying their hatred for Obama.

Almost makes me sorry for you people...almost.
depp=true

In the history of the world, no man, has ever admitted to being wrong.

On the internet, a man would rather sit in his own excrement rather than admit he is WRONG.

Perhaps my fellow weiners out there would remember it was the Treasury Secratory who arranged to have the bonuses put in there, and now they want to have the power to seize banks so this can't happen again, after they put the law in there that made it possible.

And this makes sense how?

Funny how its out there but the main stream media ain't reporting it. Just RUsh Limbaugh.