Michael Steele's charge of successfully operating as an effective leader of Conservatism just took a step backward with his admonishing of Rush Limbaugh..
Steel, in response to Limbaugh's address to CPAC, has branded Rush as more of a "performer" than a GOP leader. He further insisted that his brand of discourse is "incendiary" and "ugly".
Way to alienate 22 million people you need to help establish a Conservative comeback, Mike!
Rush is successful because he plants the seeds of true Conservatism during a time when Conservatism is essentially on the outside looking in. Steele should be embracing this bulwark of Conservative thinking, and amalgamating it into his own message. Instead he shuns it because it comes from an "entertainer". I don't care if you deem the man to be an "entertainer" or a donut salesman. Right is Right.
Really, Michael Steele is nothing more than an entertainer or saleman himself. He's trying to sell a brand of Conservatism which is no more than liberal-lite. If I hear him say in answer to another question, "Aw, I'm ready baby", I think I'll puke.
Get serious Micheal. Stop putting down people who you should be trying to enlist as allies..
You might just win over 22 million ditto-heads.



Comments (39)
I would say that Steele's r... (Below threshold)1. Posted by James H | March 3, 2009 12:36 PM | Score: 9 (9 votes cast)
I would say that Steele's remarks combined with his retraction weakened him significantly. Steele's smartest move, IMO, would have been to not make those remarks in the first place. But by criticizing Limbaugh, then apologizing so quickly to Limbaugh for those remarks, Steele only succeeded in marginalizing himself and validating liberals' criticism that Limbaugh is the "real leader" of the Republican Party.
If Steele had stood by his remarks in some way, he might have at least garnered some respect in some corners for his moxie. But right now he just seems a cowardly type who lacks the courage to stand by his own words.
1. Posted by James H | March 3, 2009 12:36 PM |
Score: 9 (9 votes cast)
Posted on March 3, 2009 12:36
2. Posted by Justrand
| March 3, 2009 12:37 PM | Score: 9 (11 votes cast)
I contributed to Steele's Senate campaign a few years ago...and I congratulated him when he became RNC chariman.
NOW I am communicating to him my EXTREME displeasure...and my refusal to contribute ANYTHING (time, money, whatever) unless and until he gets his not-very-entertaining "Act" together!!
Steele is falling for the same old "If I bash my OWN Party the MSM will love me!" trap. and that TRAP is CRAP!
2. Posted by Justrand
| March 3, 2009 12:37 PM |
Score: 9 (11 votes cast)
Posted on March 3, 2009 12:37
3. Posted by Jeff Shaw | March 3, 2009 12:45 PM | Score: 9 (11 votes cast)
McCain couldn't do it without Rush's listeners. What makes Steele think anyone else can? And I'm sick and tired of hearing the "Rush is an entertainer concerned only with his ratings" crap. Sure he's an entertainer, but he's a conservative above all else, which he would never sacrifice for ratings. (Not that he would have to.)
3. Posted by Jeff Shaw | March 3, 2009 12:45 PM |
Score: 9 (11 votes cast)
Posted on March 3, 2009 12:45
4. Posted by JLawson | March 3, 2009 12:48 PM | Score: 7 (7 votes cast)
He's a hell of a lot more entertaining than Air America was, that's for sure!
4. Posted by JLawson | March 3, 2009 12:48 PM |
Score: 7 (7 votes cast)
Posted on March 3, 2009 12:48
5. Posted by WildWillie | March 3, 2009 12:49 PM | Score: 10 (12 votes cast)
The worst of this is when DL Hugley said the republican convention looked like a nazi party meeting Steele said "Right".
I sent him an email stating my displeasure with his ability to handle and be handled by the media. He fell right into their trap and we are at a time when we need to show intelligience and courage. Huge step backwards in my opinion. Not unsalvagable but he better think of something quick or the money will dry right up. ww
5. Posted by WildWillie | March 3, 2009 12:49 PM |
Score: 10 (12 votes cast)
Posted on March 3, 2009 12:49
6. Posted by Bruce Henry | March 3, 2009 12:57 PM | Score: -7 (13 votes cast)
Mr Shaw, are you seriously suggesting that all 22 million Rush listeners either stayed home or voted for Obama?
The GOP is shrinking because it appeals almost exclusively to older white males, a shrinking demographic. Pandering to Rush will only alienate the independents, not increase the base.
6. Posted by Bruce Henry | March 3, 2009 12:57 PM |
Score: -7 (13 votes cast)
Posted on March 3, 2009 12:57
7. Posted by 914 | March 3, 2009 1:00 PM | Score: 6 (8 votes cast)
Steele just committed harikari ala McCain....Bash Your own lifeline and expect to be supported.. Not as bright as I thought.
7. Posted by 914 | March 3, 2009 1:00 PM |
Score: 6 (8 votes cast)
Posted on March 3, 2009 13:00
8. Posted by peabody3000 | March 3, 2009 1:09 PM | Score: -7 (13 votes cast)
rush represents all the myopic views and partisan tactics that lost the GOP their power, and which put the party into a tailspin that it isnt close to climbing out of
if the same party that fully supported bu$h until the bitter end now wants to annoint the almost sociopathic limbaigh as its voice, then it deserves the utter failure it is to be rewarded with, and it means true conservatism is dead and buried
maybe its better this way
8. Posted by peabody3000 | March 3, 2009 1:09 PM |
Score: -7 (13 votes cast)
Posted on March 3, 2009 13:09
9. Posted by Shawn | March 3, 2009 1:24 PM | Score: 8 (10 votes cast)
"rush represents all the myopic views and partisan tactics that lost the GOP their power, and which put the party into a tailspin that it isnt close to climbing out of"
Um, pea,
Rush has been around for over 20 years.
Through Reagan, Bush 1, the Republican Revolution of 1994, and Bush 2.
Seems a pretty good track record of helping the GOP win during those years.
Or did you just start paying attention to politics the past 2 months?
9. Posted by Shawn | March 3, 2009 1:24 PM |
Score: 8 (10 votes cast)
Posted on March 3, 2009 13:24
10. Posted by mantis | March 3, 2009 1:25 PM | Score: -7 (9 votes cast)
Rush seems rather upset to be called an entertainer. Hmmm.
Rush in 2003:
10. Posted by mantis | March 3, 2009 1:25 PM |
Score: -7 (9 votes cast)
Posted on March 3, 2009 13:25
11. Posted by peabody3000 | March 3, 2009 1:28 PM | Score: -8 (10 votes cast)
shawn - im still a registered republican from those years when i actually voted for reagan et al, so think again
11. Posted by peabody3000 | March 3, 2009 1:28 PM |
Score: -8 (10 votes cast)
Posted on March 3, 2009 13:28
12. Posted by WildWillie | March 3, 2009 1:52 PM | Score: 8 (12 votes cast)
peabody, you must have slept through the two + years of democratic congressional leadership where all things money come from. Also, where was the oversight of the banking industry? Isn't the chairperson a democrat? The tailspin started with your people. Live with it. If I am incorrect, please tell me how. Thanks. ww
12. Posted by WildWillie | March 3, 2009 1:52 PM |
Score: 8 (12 votes cast)
Posted on March 3, 2009 13:52
13. Posted by peabody3000 | March 3, 2009 2:08 PM | Score: -7 (11 votes cast)
willie you are incorrect in that you are trying to claim that the current problems all arise from the past two years, or that the GOP was voted out because the dems messed up. both parties contributed to the credit market collapse (dems pushed for irresposible low-income lending, repubs pushed for irresposible deregulation)
the iraq war is today widely regarded as a GOP fraud. bu$h has now been revealed as working to subvert democracy, and there is plenty more to be thankful about that GOP power has at last been checked. if the dems are given as much power for as long, it will only be a matter of time until they become just as rotten to the core. thats why i support a rebuilt and relevant republican party, but it wont happen with dittoheads, no way
13. Posted by peabody3000 | March 3, 2009 2:08 PM |
Score: -7 (11 votes cast)
Posted on March 3, 2009 14:08
14. Posted by Peter F. | March 3, 2009 2:12 PM | Score: 5 (7 votes cast)
peadbody, find a capital letter at beginning of your sentences and in your proper nouns. You ain't the second coming of e.e. cummings.
14. Posted by Peter F. | March 3, 2009 2:12 PM |
Score: 5 (7 votes cast)
Posted on March 3, 2009 14:12
15. Posted by Peter F. | March 3, 2009 2:14 PM | Score: 4 (6 votes cast)
Pardon the typo; add'the' before 'beginning'.
15. Posted by Peter F. | March 3, 2009 2:14 PM |
Score: 4 (6 votes cast)
Posted on March 3, 2009 14:14
16. Posted by mantis | March 3, 2009 2:19 PM | Score: -3 (11 votes cast)
Pardon the typo
The ironing is delicious.
16. Posted by mantis | March 3, 2009 2:19 PM |
Score: -3 (11 votes cast)
Posted on March 3, 2009 14:19
17. Posted by peabody3000 | March 3, 2009 2:25 PM | Score: -5 (9 votes cast)
hooboy......
17. Posted by peabody3000 | March 3, 2009 2:25 PM |
Score: -5 (9 votes cast)
Posted on March 3, 2009 14:25
18. Posted by Justice58 | March 3, 2009 2:26 PM | Score: -7 (9 votes cast)
Rush Limpballs:
I'm counting on him to keep digging that hole!
18. Posted by Justice58 | March 3, 2009 2:26 PM |
Score: -7 (9 votes cast)
Posted on March 3, 2009 14:26
19. Posted by Peter F. | March 3, 2009 2:29 PM | Score: 1 (1 votes cast)
The ironing is delicious.
Nice!
+1 from me.
19. Posted by Peter F. | March 3, 2009 2:29 PM |
Score: 1 (1 votes cast)
Posted on March 3, 2009 14:29
20. Posted by mantis | March 3, 2009 2:31 PM | Score: -2 (8 votes cast)
I knew you would get that one. ;)
20. Posted by mantis | March 3, 2009 2:31 PM |
Score: -2 (8 votes cast)
Posted on March 3, 2009 14:31
21. Posted by Hank | March 3, 2009 3:38 PM | Score: 3 (5 votes cast)
re: peabody3000 writing:"both parties contributed to the credit market collapse (dems pushed for irresposible low-income lending, repubs pushed for irresposible deregulation)"
What deregulation are you talking about?
21. Posted by Hank | March 3, 2009 3:38 PM |
Score: 3 (5 votes cast)
Posted on March 3, 2009 15:38
22. Posted by kevino | March 3, 2009 3:42 PM | Score: 5 (5 votes cast)
I don't think that Rush is a good leader for the GOP, but I believe that he is important to the GOP at this moment because the party has no leadership. The Democrats don't have good leadership, either. The Democrats have risen to the top because they have built a good grassroots system, they are good at gaming the system, and they have benefited from numerous GOP mistakes.
The American people don't have good leadership because they haven't really asked for it. They want lots of good stuff, they want it free, and they want it now. That is a program tailor-made for Democrats, and in the short term, they intend to deliver. Conservatives have a tougher argument: they have to ask people to work hard, plan for the future, and save. When conservatives don't feel that they can make that argument, they act like Democrats.
What we're left with is a two party system, where the conservative party cannot run the country, and liberal party can run it into the ground.
22. Posted by kevino | March 3, 2009 3:42 PM |
Score: 5 (5 votes cast)
Posted on March 3, 2009 15:42
23. Posted by WildWillie | March 3, 2009 6:09 PM | Score: 2 (4 votes cast)
Whoa! Peabody said the economic mess is both demo and repub's fault? You better start explaining that to your fellow libs. ww
23. Posted by WildWillie | March 3, 2009 6:09 PM |
Score: 2 (4 votes cast)
Posted on March 3, 2009 18:09
24. Posted by Mariann Pepitone | March 3, 2009 9:19 PM | Score: 1 (1 votes cast)
Rush is a good radio host but the republicans shouldn't allow him to think he is the leader of the republican party. Steele is the leader and should not have apologized to Rush. Rush can get out of control at times and Steele said the right thing. Rush should not have said he hopes Obama fails. He should have said he hopes his policies fail. For an educated person he missed on that statement. I like Steele and I hope he continues as the chairman.
24. Posted by Mariann Pepitone | March 3, 2009 9:19 PM |
Score: 1 (1 votes cast)
Posted on March 3, 2009 21:19
25. Posted by Justice58 | March 3, 2009 9:47 PM | Score: 1 (3 votes cast)
I'll give it at least until the end of March before Michael Steele resigns! He should've told Rush where to stick it & let the chips fall where they may but he wussied out. No way he'll be able to pull the hip-hop crowd.
Rush need to shut up. Who will have the balls to stand up to him and tell him he's not the leader of the party? Who?
25. Posted by Justice58 | March 3, 2009 9:47 PM |
Score: 1 (3 votes cast)
Posted on March 3, 2009 21:47
26. Posted by epador | March 4, 2009 6:53 AM | Score: 2 (2 votes cast)
The Daily Show pretty well summed up my feelings about this recent saturnalia of self-serving sound-biters of what passes for a political party meeting. When you folks get warm tingly feelings up your legs about a speech like his and the other folks at the meeting, its a sad day for our country.
26. Posted by epador | March 4, 2009 6:53 AM |
Score: 2 (2 votes cast)
Posted on March 4, 2009 06:53
27. Posted by marinelurp | March 4, 2009 8:14 AM | Score: 1 (1 votes cast)
I know many will scream bloody murder for saying this but here goes: Just why was Steele appointed...could it possibly be, ah, well, 'affirmative action' attempt by GOP leadership to counter all the 'affirmative action' being done by the Obamassiah?
27. Posted by marinelurp | March 4, 2009 8:14 AM |
Score: 1 (1 votes cast)
Posted on March 4, 2009 08:14
28. Posted by Justice58 | March 4, 2009 9:38 AM | Score: -1 (1 votes cast)
why was Steele appointed?
Michael Steele's appointment was to draw WHITE independents. In order to win elections, republicans have to reach outside of their base. If they can't pull independents, minorities...they'll never win another election.
28. Posted by Justice58 | March 4, 2009 9:38 AM |
Score: -1 (1 votes cast)
Posted on March 4, 2009 09:38
29. Posted by Justice58 | March 4, 2009 9:49 AM | Score: -1 (1 votes cast)
African Americans are watching to see how Steele is treated. If Steele doesn't get any support from republicans, African Americans will know without a doubt that republicans aren't serious about reaching out to include them in the party. If he's dumped... kiss the hip-hop & black vote good-bye.
I'll lay money down Steele won't last until a month.
29. Posted by Justice58 | March 4, 2009 9:49 AM |
Score: -1 (1 votes cast)
Posted on March 4, 2009 09:49
30. Posted by WildWillie | March 4, 2009 9:54 AM | Score: -1 (3 votes cast)
Justice, I don't know why I bother responding to your racist comments, but the "hip hop" crowd has their hand out for freebees and will vote for anyone that will give them things for nothing. That will never be a republican. We are the party of earning. Of working. Of taking care of our community. Why don't you get a job and see what it is like to EARN a living, not just exist. ww
30. Posted by WildWillie | March 4, 2009 9:54 AM |
Score: -1 (3 votes cast)
Posted on March 4, 2009 09:54
31. Posted by Justice58 | March 4, 2009 10:27 AM | Score: -2 (2 votes cast)
Justice, I don't know why I bother responding to your racist comments
Then don't respond to me, you racist piece of scum. Republicans will NEVER pull the hip-hop vote. Therefore, republicans will NEVER win elections again. This is a new era. Either get with the program or get left behind.
The End!
31. Posted by Justice58 | March 4, 2009 10:27 AM |
Score: -2 (2 votes cast)
Posted on March 4, 2009 10:27
32. Posted by WildWillie | March 4, 2009 11:07 AM | Score: 0 (2 votes cast)
I believe the vote to garner is the hispanic vote. The black vote has become ineffective to turn races around. See 2004. ww
32. Posted by WildWillie | March 4, 2009 11:07 AM |
Score: 0 (2 votes cast)
Posted on March 4, 2009 11:07
33. Posted by hyperbolist | March 4, 2009 12:22 PM | Score: -1 (3 votes cast)
So cancel the shipment of Ebonic dictionaries and order some red, white and blue sombreros. Hispanics up in the GOP's Big Tent! Holla!
33. Posted by hyperbolist | March 4, 2009 12:22 PM |
Score: -1 (3 votes cast)
Posted on March 4, 2009 12:22
34. Posted by Justice58 | March 4, 2009 2:08 PM | Score: -1 (1 votes cast)
but the "hip hop" crowd has their hand out for freebees and will vote for anyone that will give them things for nothing. That will never be a republican. We are the party of earning.
You're a backwards old racist bigot. No wonder you're so behind the times. If you think hip-hop consist of black people, you're sorely ignorant. It's the WHITE kids that are more hip-hop than blacks. If you weren't so f-ing racist, you'd have known that. White kids are the ones buying the hip-hop music. They're the ones spending huge mega bucks on the music. You'd better ask somebody!!!! Do some research before you open your stupid racist mouth and learn a thing a two. This is the reason the party is going nowhere. You're too ignorant & racist. Times are changing & if you don't change with it, you'll be left behind. Republicans will NEVER pull the hip-hop crowd because they aren't going for the racist BS. No way!!!! The young hip-hoppers aren't filled with hate. They socialize together with all races. The republican party is a party of old white men that is on its way out. It's a new era!
34. Posted by Justice58 | March 4, 2009 2:08 PM |
Score: -1 (1 votes cast)
Posted on March 4, 2009 14:08
35. Posted by Shawn | March 4, 2009 2:36 PM | Score: 2 (2 votes cast)
"It's the WHITE kids that are more hip-hop than blacks."
That's funny. I could swear that 99% of hip-hop is created by black kids.
"The young hip-hoppers aren't filled with hate."
Nah, they just kill eachother in the hood. That's love, man..
Justice, you better tone down your race rhetoric.
35. Posted by Shawn | March 4, 2009 2:36 PM |
Score: 2 (2 votes cast)
Posted on March 4, 2009 14:36
36. Posted by Justice58 | March 4, 2009 2:59 PM | Score: -2 (2 votes cast)
Shawn
Do your own research. The face of hip-hop is young White kids! I know it's shocking to you, but it's true!!!!!!!!!!!
36. Posted by Justice58 | March 4, 2009 2:59 PM |
Score: -2 (2 votes cast)
Posted on March 4, 2009 14:59
37. Posted by Bruce Henry | March 4, 2009 6:30 PM | Score: -1 (1 votes cast)
You must not have kids in high school, Mr Mallow. Hip hop is pretty universal these days. Yeah, most of the music is created by black kids, but most of the product is purchased by white kids.
Justice can be over the top sometimes, but she's got a point here. If you and Wet Willie think "the hip hop crowd" consists mostly of gangbangers, you are very wrong indeed.
Ever see Stephen Colbert's satirical bit about how "I don't SEE race?" Kids today, for the most part, very often don't.
37. Posted by Bruce Henry | March 4, 2009 6:30 PM |
Score: -1 (1 votes cast)
Posted on March 4, 2009 18:30
38. Posted by Shawn | March 4, 2009 6:46 PM | Score: 1 (1 votes cast)
Bruce,
Nowhere did I claim "the hip-hop crowd" to be exclusively black.
I said the one's who create it are mostly black.
Colbert is an ass.
As far as Justice and his white-kid hip-hop claim, I happen to agree.
So I'm not exactly "shocked".
Personally I think it's all shit.
38. Posted by Shawn | March 4, 2009 6:46 PM |
Score: 1 (1 votes cast)
Posted on March 4, 2009 18:46
39. Posted by Bruce Henry | March 4, 2009 7:26 PM | Score: -1 (1 votes cast)
Well, Mr Mallow, it is technically true that you didn't claim that "the hip-hop crowd" is exclusively black. But in response to j58's claim that "young hip-hoppers aren't filled with hate," you said, no, "they just kill each other in the hood." Isn't "in the hood" a reference to a black neighborhood? And wouldn't the reference to killing imply gangbangers?
You also said that "99%" of hip-hop music is created by black kids. Well, maybe, but 99% seems kinda high. Ever heard of Eminem? And there is lots of Latin hip-hop out there now.
Hip-hop is as ubiquitous now as Rock was in my day, or boy bands in yours. And the culture reflects it. It will never be the 1950s again, Mr Mallow.
And for Willie's benefit, it will never be the 1890s again, either.
39. Posted by Bruce Henry | March 4, 2009 7:26 PM |
Score: -1 (1 votes cast)
Posted on March 4, 2009 19:26