Maybe they should go over to Holland and tilt at the windmill.

Better yet rance, they can visit Michigan's and see where ObamaMessiah's "lighter-than-air" quality originates.

She spanked your boy last night, Rance. She spanked him real bad. And so now you got sour grapes, huh?

Joey got beat up by a girl. /snicker

Realistically, McCain will win 82 (of 83) counties in Michigan by several hundred thousand votes, but Obama will win Wayne County by several hundred thousand votes and most likely more then enough to overtake McCains lead in the entire rest of the state. (I wish we used an electoral college by county system in this state.)

Anyway, I was disappointed, but not surprised, by McCain's announcement yesterday. And with all the big money behind Obama it is wise for McCain to concentrate his limited resources where they will be most effective.

I do applaud Palin's williness to try. Reagan did win Michigan back in the day. Can Palin? Hard to say. If she did the MSM would go insane.

The rest of the campaign seems to think that Michigan can't be salvaged. Palin thinks that it's worth spending the campaign's money to fly in and save the day. Maybe she knows how Michigan politics work better than McCain's staff does.

Clay: "girl"? You sexist pig!

Is the city of Det-riot a financial drain on the rest of the state?

Having just left Michigan a few months ago, after living there for two years, I have to say that Detroit is a drain on the rest of the state in every imaginable way. That said, it would be a real tossup. The Democrats have a slight lead there in many ways, but if the McCain campaign could use Kwame Kilpatrick as an example of what is wrong, ideologically, with Obama, that might resonate enough in the rest of the state to drive up turnout enough to overcome Detroit and Ann Arbor. Hard to say. It's at least not an illogical decision on the campaign's part.

She has something the left does not understand. Guts. ww

She has a lot of guts, and as one commenter pointed out after the debate, she learns fast, too. It really encouraging to see the energy and drive she is putting into this campaign.

The McCain Campaign is wisely attempting to save resources for must win states like Virginia, North Carolina, Florida and Ohio, where a loss in any one of these states will spell defeat in November. Scott Elliot's Election Projection with it's highly accurate electoral college projection has McCain badly trailing Obama by 183 Electoral votes to 353 as of today.

Palin is certainly welcome to campaign anywhere she wants to. But likely the McCain Campaign wants to concentrate efforts where some hope remains and not waste valuable funds on lost causes like Michigan. The McCain Campaign needs to concentrate time and money in a base of states to prevent an electoral college landslide loss. But the Obama Campaign is spending as much as $40 million just to take critical states like Florida from McCain, so wasting time and funds on lost cause states like Michigan make little sense at this point.

Clay: "girl"? You sexist pig!

The joke went over your head. The definition of girl is "an immature or inexperienced woman, especially a young woman." Hasn't the left been railing on her 'inexperience' ad infinitum? Well, guess what? That girl schooled a senator who's been in Washington since she was in the second grade. That's gonna leave a mark on the old fart's mug.

Try and keep up, huh?

Now THIS is a GREAT idea that I think we can all get behind. Let Sarah and Todd load up the clan in the minivan and drive all around Michigan (it's next to a foreign country, you know) even though McCain isn't campaigning there anymore. Works for McCain: she can't do him any damage if nobody's paying her any attention. Works for me: I won't to have to hear her anymore. On November 6, she can just fill 'er up and keep on going straight back to Alaska (next to Russia, more or less). Just one thing, Caribou Barbie: tell Todd to stay away from Detroit. And Ann Arbor. And Flint. And . . . Well, maybe they should just go camping with the kids until the election is over. Hey, wait! It already is O-V-A. Tell CB to just go home to all her former fans in Alaska.

wbgonne~

Caribou Barbie: tell Todd to stay away from Detroit. And Ann Arbor. And Flint.

What do you mean? Elaborate, please, and prove you know what you are talking about.

Clay:

Maybe you're right and she is a little girl. After all, she did tell Fox that her response to hearing McCain was pulling out of Michigan was to e-mail him "Oh come on, do we have to?"

He just doesn't want the people in Detroit and Flint to 'hope' for any 'change' that isn't coming from Obama. So it's FAR better to keep the proles ignorant of any opposition. Let them think that all that's possible for them is an Obama victory, and they'll vote that way.

And in return, they'll get 4 more years of the same stuff that's gotten them where they are today.

Rance~

Maybe you're right and she is a little girl.

Nope. You are the one who is now referring to her as a "little girl", so apparently, clay's comment continues to go over your head. I'll bet you wish you didn't like her so much.

McCain is showing an ounce of sense and the conservatives go after him for it! Incredible. Conservatives, what the hell do you think Michigan is, Alabama or Mississippi? Don't offend Michigan like this!!!!

Really, conservatives. You need to focus on either states where a substantial portion of voters are descendants of slave-owners, or on states where the ratio of guns to universities is far above the national average.

Herman~

You need to focus on either states where a substantial portion of voters are descendants of slave-owners,

Just focus on that dust speck in the corner of your kitchen window. It's as tiny as your viewpoint and will soothe you.

Until he explained it to me, I didn't realize it was a joke. He's much to subtle for me.

He just doesn't want the people in Detroit and Flint to 'hope' for any 'change' that isn't coming from Obama. So it's FAR better to keep the proles ignorant of any opposition. Let them think that all that's possible for them is an Obama victory, and they'll vote that way.

Um, my guy isn't the one who pulled out of the state.

And in return, they'll get 4 more years of the same stuff that's gotten them where they are today.

Current events, much? George W. Bush, who happens to be a Republican, has been the President for not just 4 years but 8 years. You must read the same materials as Caribou Barbie.

palin just pulled a carly firoina! why doesnt she just come out and say explicitly that mccain is an inept old fool.

also, it was quite embarrasing to watch palin in the debate last night. it is not acceptable to refuse to answer questions and then just ramble about the 1 or 2 points she has on her notecards. that might satisfy the extreme right but it hurts the ticket with everyone else. a viable vp candidate is supposed to be able to address the issues not run away from them.

There are good people in Michigan but becuz of Detroit and the things they do, it is becoming hopeless. I married a Michigander, owns a house there and hoping to go back there someday, however, until Michigan get their act together, I am staying in Tennesse. I talk to a lot of people of Detroit everyday, they want change but nowhere to go. Maybe if Sarah will go there, maybe she can give them hope.

I moved from MI to TN and now live in OR.

Go figure. I'm afraid to put my NOBAMA sticker on my car in case Paul decides to try to run me off the road on his scooter...

Herman:

Take your bigotry somewhere else
where it will be appreciated. Now.

it is not acceptable to refuse to answer questions and then just ramble about the 1 or 2 points she has on her notecards.

Too late. Apparently, the moderator had no problem with it. The "old" remark doesn't cut it, either. Unless you would like to redirect that comment toward Biden.

They need to turn her loose in the western and Midwest states, Florida is a waste for her, She needs to be in Colorado, and Nevada and New Mexico. She needs to hit town, walk a rope line to the speech, Give her speech, Rope line out,Go hit dinner at the local greasy spoon, then do a two and a half minute interview with the local TV station for the 10 O'clock news. Then repeat the next day. If they get real ballsy then they can try Washington state, maybe New Hampshire. Michigan Wisconsin and Minnesota.

Nah, wbgonne - I figure 4 years of Obama, if he gets elected, will be enough to kill the credibility of the Democratic party completely. It's almost at a critical level now - even with the media in the tank for them.

And it's really kind of odd, you thinking that just because the Republicans have been in the majority for 6 years, and the Democrats for 2, that there's no way the Democrats could have any effect on legislation while the Republicans were in the majority. If a supermajority is needed to pass something, it doesn't matter if you've got a simple majority of Republicans or Democrats - a stubborn few can stop legislation cold. If something never gets out of comittee - it doesn't matter if it's the best legislation in the world. And the partisan rancor in the last 8 years has likely kept some good stuff far from passing.

And Pelosi and Reid have been VERY partisan in the last couple of years.

That's right, obgonne, keep sounding that confident tone until someone takes up YOUR offer to bet (what is your deal anyway, did you really count on no one taking up your bet just 'cause we're down right now in the polls?). Then like last night, it's suddenly your bedtime. OK, good night, obie.

But...but... McCain is too out of touch to communicate by e-mail! Obama said so!

herman - "You need to focus on either states where a substantial portion of voters are descendants of slave-owners, or on states where the ratio of guns to universities is far above the national average."

As usual, you're sadly misguided.... er, let me rephrase that...

you're fu*kin' ignorant!

Michigan hosts one of the largest, if not THE largest number of deer and bird hunting populations in the country.

Dumb shit doesn't begin to cover it.

That's right, obgonne, keep sounding that confident tone until someone takes up YOUR offer to bet (what is your deal anyway, did you really count on no one taking up your bet just 'cause we're down right now in the polls?). Then like last night, it's suddenly your bedtime. OK, good night, obie.

In fact I did respond to the person who offered to take me up on my bet, but Maggie the Magnificent censored my post. Why? Ask her. It wasn't nasty or offensive. In fact, it was something like I'd rather not take your money. But in Rush-O'Reilly-Hannity land the one with the power exercises it however he or she sees fit. It's called authoritarianism and we've seen plenty of it over the past 8 years. It is, un-American, by the way. And another thing: Bill O'Reilly was an absolute DISGRACE in how he treated Barney Frank on his show the other night. Whatever you think of him, Frank is a sitting U.S. Congressman, chair of the House Banking Committee and he's been working his ass off trying to pass legislation that the Bush Administration proposed. Regardless of how you feel about the bailout -- I have been unequivocally opposed to it -- to treat Congressamn Frank that way was repulsive. One last thing: If Keith Olbermann ever "hung up" on a Republican Congressman during a live interview, you all would be calling for a boycott of his show, if not for his banishment or lynching. And I would be right behind you.

Jeff Medcalf: While I agree with you, using Kilpatrick will only net them more charges of racism. This IS Michigan we're talking about here.

And Herman and wbgonne, you're both idiots. I don't think I need to prove it or explain why. You do it well.

wbgonne:

In fact I did respond to the person who offered to take me up on my bet, but Maggie the Magnificent censored my post. Why? Ask her. It wasn't nasty or offensive. In fact, it was something like I'd rather not take your money. But in Rush-O'Reilly-Hannity land the one with the power exercises it however he or she sees fit. It's called authoritarianism and we've seen plenty of it over the past 8 years. It is, un-American, by the way. And another thing: Bill O'Reilly was an absolute DISGRACE in how he treated Barney Frank on his show the other night. Whatever you think of him, Frank is a sitting U.S. Congressman, chair of the House Banking Committee and he's been working his ass off trying to pass legislation that the Bush Administration proposed. Regardless of how you feel about the bailout -- I have been unequivocally opposed to it -- to treat Congressamn Frank that way was repulsive. One last thing: If Keith Olbermann ever "hung up" on a Republican Congressman during a live interview, you all would be calling for a boycott of his show, if not for his banishment or lynching. And I would be right behind you.

I don't know which to smack you over the head
with first. I'm just the sheriff. That is all.
As to the rest of your caca (that's chicken
shit to greenies like you) it will have to wait.
I'm in the mood for a crusade, and I promise
you are going to be invited.
Next time try some 'true lies', idiot.

I don't know which to smack you over the head with first. I'm just the sheriff. That is all. As to the rest of your caca (that's chicken shit to greenies like you) it will have to wait. I'm in the mood for a crusade, and I promise you are going to be invited.
Next time try some 'true lies', idiot.

Do yourself and everyone else a favor: Stop threatening people.
depp=true
notiz=Welcome to the crusade, boyo.

wbgonne~

And I would be right behind you.

Knock it off with the self-righteous lies. Even you referred to Obama as a lying fool yet said he would be good for America. Also, stop telling the comment editor how to do her job. Who's trying to act like they are in charge here with threats?

wdgonne - "but Maggie the Magnificent censored my post. Why? Ask her. It wasn't nasty or offensive. In fact, it was something like I'd rather not take your money. But in Rush-O'Reilly-Hannity land the one with the power exercises it"

Suggestion: Spend a bit of time learning who, what, and when someone can "censor[ed]" one of your comments.

HINT - "Maggie the Magnificent," as you call her is just a commenter like you and has ZERO ability to do what you claim she has done. She doesn't own the blog, author the blog, contribute to it, have access to the software backend or anything beyond what meager ramblings you provide here.

Mental midget.