The more interesting thing to me is that, in a state with an 80% approval rating for Sarah [Palin], the media somehow manages to find only the 20% who are less than pleased.
The girl's made a point in 30 words that entire commentaries trip over themselves to illustrate. The eloquence of brevity.
This is not an isolated phenomenon. From the Corner, looking at a Washington Post article about the local McCain/Palin rally:
Number of paragraphs in the Washington Post story: 14
Number of paragraphs about pro-Obama protesters: 8
Number of McCain-Palin supporters present: 23,000
Number of Obama protesters: about 30
Welcome to the world of media bias.
1. Posted by
Dan | September 11, 2008 4:31 PM |
Score: 4 (4 votes cast)
2. Posted by
hyperbolist | September 11, 2008 5:07 PM | Score: -12 (14 votes cast)
hyperbolist:
Sort of like the hundreds of thousands strong anti-war protests where the news cameras spent equal time on the counter-protesters, right? The main difference being, this is a far less important issue than whether to invade another country.
2. Posted by
hyperbolist | September 11, 2008 5:07 PM |
Score: -12 (14 votes cast)
4. Posted by
retired military | September 11, 2008 5:24 PM | Score: 4 (6 votes cast)
retired military:
"Sort of like the hundreds of thousands strong anti-war protests where the news cameras spent equal time on the counter-protesters, right"
Then Hyperboli woke up from his pot induced slubmer and realized he wasn't in 1970 any longer.
I don't think ONE protest in the past few years has had "hundreds of thousands of people"
ref the war. They did have them for immigration of course if they had shown up with about a 100 ICE busses most of those would have found somewhere else to be.
4. Posted by
retired military | September 11, 2008 5:24 PM |
Score: 4 (6 votes cast)
5. Posted by
hyperbolist | September 11, 2008 5:36 PM | Score: -9 (9 votes cast)
hyperbolist:
They were pro-Iraq war. They might not be now, when the occupation went very poorly, but if you think the media were opposed to the invasion then you need to lay off the paint chips.
RM, there were in fact hundreds of thousands of people protesting the war, but regardless, they far outnumbered the counter-protesters, and yet the news networks insisted on putting them on the air. I'm sure you weren't complaining then, right?
5. Posted by
hyperbolist | September 11, 2008 5:36 PM |
Score: -9 (9 votes cast)
6. Posted by
Stan25 | September 11, 2008 5:42 PM | Score: 2 (2 votes cast)
Stan25:
The more interesting thing to me is that, in a state with an 80% approval rating for Sarah [Palin], the media somehow manages to find only the 20% who are less than pleased.
Those 20% must be the people that she either fired, forced them to resign, the local drive by media or oil company Lobbyists and executives. I'll bet that the national drive bys had help from the local drive bys in ferreting this disaffected group You know what they say "Birds of a feather will flock together" and the libs all know each other.
6. Posted by
Stan25 | September 11, 2008 5:42 PM |
Score: 2 (2 votes cast)
hyperbolist you are well named, I'll say that much.
Just check the mountain of news stories during the war. Every casualty count tallied on the front page. When the monthly casualty counts started going down, there stories started to note that the total casualty count was still going up--as if the total count could go down? A handful of soldiers mistreat POWs and the story is on the front page for 41 straight days. What about the thousands of soldiers over there that were just doing their jobs? Not news.
Now that the surge has been declared successful and things are looking much better, do you even see a front page story about Iraq? No, of course not.
It is much more accurate to just say that media was pro-war and then against the war when the Democratic party was. Both parties voted in favor of the initial actions in Iraq. So the media was too. As soon the Democrats started using the "Bush Lied, People Died" line and switched their stance on the war, so did the media.
So yes, the media was pro-war in the beginning--so was Hilary Clinton and 90%+ of Congress, remember? As is not surprising, when the Democratic party switched viewpoints, so did they.
Trying to argue the media is somehow pro-war or pro-conservative is fighting a loosing battle against statistics.
Steve's article and my first post were about how the media walks lock-step with the Democratic party talking points to a frightening degree. They aren't pro-war or anti-war...they are pro-Democratic Party, plain and simple.
7. Posted by
Dan | September 11, 2008 6:01 PM |
Score: 6 (6 votes cast)
RM, there were in fact hundreds of thousands of people protesting the war,
This is a bit of an exaggeration. There was a small handful of demonstrations that got into the tens of thousands over like, what, maybe a couple or three weekends and that was the end of that.
The protests just didn't have the oomph of the good old days.
8. Posted by
OregonMuse | September 11, 2008 10:22 PM |
Score: 2 (2 votes cast)
10. Posted by
moseby | September 12, 2008 8:59 AM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
moseby:
Yeah, right. A few hundred smelly hippies breaking the law and getting their skulls cracked open can look like hundreds of thousands. Here's to those nightsticks being hard and true.
10. Posted by
moseby | September 12, 2008 8:59 AM |
Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Have a look at Alaska's Constitution and get familiar with the laws and legislation in regards to oil revenue and you'll see that Sarah Palin UPHELD the laws.
She didn't just make it up as she went.
11. Posted by
Oyster | September 12, 2008 6:12 PM |
Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
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This is not an isolated phe... (Below threshold)1. Posted by Dan | September 11, 2008 4:31 PM | Score: 4 (4 votes cast)
This is not an isolated phenomenon. From the Corner, looking at a Washington Post article about the local McCain/Palin rally:
Number of paragraphs in the Washington Post story: 14
Number of paragraphs about pro-Obama protesters: 8
Number of McCain-Palin supporters present: 23,000
Number of Obama protesters: about 30
Welcome to the world of media bias.
1. Posted by Dan | September 11, 2008 4:31 PM |
Score: 4 (4 votes cast)
Posted on September 11, 2008 16:31
2. Posted by hyperbolist | September 11, 2008 5:07 PM | Score: -12 (14 votes cast)
Sort of like the hundreds of thousands strong anti-war protests where the news cameras spent equal time on the counter-protesters, right? The main difference being, this is a far less important issue than whether to invade another country.
2. Posted by hyperbolist | September 11, 2008 5:07 PM |
Score: -12 (14 votes cast)
Posted on September 11, 2008 17:07
3. Posted by Dan | September 11, 2008 5:16 PM | Score: 5 (5 votes cast)
Yes, because the media is well-known to be pro-Iraq war. *rolls eyes*
3. Posted by Dan | September 11, 2008 5:16 PM |
Score: 5 (5 votes cast)
Posted on September 11, 2008 17:16
4. Posted by retired military | September 11, 2008 5:24 PM | Score: 4 (6 votes cast)
"Sort of like the hundreds of thousands strong anti-war protests where the news cameras spent equal time on the counter-protesters, right"
Then Hyperboli woke up from his pot induced slubmer and realized he wasn't in 1970 any longer.
I don't think ONE protest in the past few years has had "hundreds of thousands of people"
ref the war. They did have them for immigration of course if they had shown up with about a 100 ICE busses most of those would have found somewhere else to be.
4. Posted by retired military | September 11, 2008 5:24 PM |
Score: 4 (6 votes cast)
Posted on September 11, 2008 17:24
5. Posted by hyperbolist | September 11, 2008 5:36 PM | Score: -9 (9 votes cast)
They were pro-Iraq war. They might not be now, when the occupation went very poorly, but if you think the media were opposed to the invasion then you need to lay off the paint chips.
RM, there were in fact hundreds of thousands of people protesting the war, but regardless, they far outnumbered the counter-protesters, and yet the news networks insisted on putting them on the air. I'm sure you weren't complaining then, right?
5. Posted by hyperbolist | September 11, 2008 5:36 PM |
Score: -9 (9 votes cast)
Posted on September 11, 2008 17:36
6. Posted by Stan25 | September 11, 2008 5:42 PM | Score: 2 (2 votes cast)
Those 20% must be the people that she either fired, forced them to resign, the local drive by media or oil company Lobbyists and executives. I'll bet that the national drive bys had help from the local drive bys in ferreting this disaffected group You know what they say "Birds of a feather will flock together" and the libs all know each other.
6. Posted by Stan25 | September 11, 2008 5:42 PM |
Score: 2 (2 votes cast)
Posted on September 11, 2008 17:42
7. Posted by Dan | September 11, 2008 6:01 PM | Score: 6 (6 votes cast)
hyperbolist you are well named, I'll say that much.
Just check the mountain of news stories during the war. Every casualty count tallied on the front page. When the monthly casualty counts started going down, there stories started to note that the total casualty count was still going up--as if the total count could go down? A handful of soldiers mistreat POWs and the story is on the front page for 41 straight days. What about the thousands of soldiers over there that were just doing their jobs? Not news.
Now that the surge has been declared successful and things are looking much better, do you even see a front page story about Iraq? No, of course not.
It is much more accurate to just say that media was pro-war and then against the war when the Democratic party was. Both parties voted in favor of the initial actions in Iraq. So the media was too. As soon the Democrats started using the "Bush Lied, People Died" line and switched their stance on the war, so did the media.
So yes, the media was pro-war in the beginning--so was Hilary Clinton and 90%+ of Congress, remember? As is not surprising, when the Democratic party switched viewpoints, so did they.
Trying to argue the media is somehow pro-war or pro-conservative is fighting a loosing battle against statistics.
Steve's article and my first post were about how the media walks lock-step with the Democratic party talking points to a frightening degree. They aren't pro-war or anti-war...they are pro-Democratic Party, plain and simple.
7. Posted by Dan | September 11, 2008 6:01 PM |
Score: 6 (6 votes cast)
Posted on September 11, 2008 18:01
8. Posted by OregonMuse | September 11, 2008 10:22 PM | Score: 2 (2 votes cast)
This is a bit of an exaggeration. There was a small handful of demonstrations that got into the tens of thousands over like, what, maybe a couple or three weekends and that was the end of that.
The protests just didn't have the oomph of the good old days.
8. Posted by OregonMuse | September 11, 2008 10:22 PM |
Score: 2 (2 votes cast)
Posted on September 11, 2008 22:22
9. Posted by Just John | September 11, 2008 11:48 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Distributing extra energy cash has a lot to do with the 80% approval.
Who's for taking money from the oil companies any giving it to the citizens?
9. Posted by Just John | September 11, 2008 11:48 PM |
Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Posted on September 11, 2008 23:48
10. Posted by moseby | September 12, 2008 8:59 AM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Yeah, right. A few hundred smelly hippies breaking the law and getting their skulls cracked open can look like hundreds of thousands. Here's to those nightsticks being hard and true.
10. Posted by moseby | September 12, 2008 8:59 AM |
Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Posted on September 12, 2008 08:59
11. Posted by Oyster | September 12, 2008 6:12 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Just John, you speak from pure ignorance.
Have a look at Alaska's Constitution and get familiar with the laws and legislation in regards to oil revenue and you'll see that Sarah Palin UPHELD the laws.
She didn't just make it up as she went.
11. Posted by Oyster | September 12, 2008 6:12 PM |
Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Posted on September 12, 2008 18:12