During some web surfing today, I made some interesting discoveries. Here is a AP article available directly at Yahoo-
ESSEX, Vt. - A motorist led police on a chase that ended when his vehicle hit a tree and he fled, leaving his pregnant girlfriend behind, authorities said. A police officer who suspected the man of speeding tried to pull him over early Monday.Here's the same article via a Vermont newspaper website-Lt. Robin Hollwedel said the man then lead officers on a short chase in which his vehicle clipped a house and rammed a tree.
"He hit the corner of it. The tree stopped him more than the house did," Hollwedel said.
The man then got out and fled on foot, leaving his girlfriend -- who is 8 months pregnant -- in the car, according to Hollwedel. The woman, whose name wasn't released, was unhurt but was taken to a hospital as a precaution.
The man, whose driver's license is suspended, made a voluntary appearance at police headquarters along with his attorney later Monday.
He was cited for careless and negligent operation of a motor vehicle, attempting to elude a law enforcement officer and a probation violation before being released, police said.
ESSEX -- A motorist led police on a chase that ended when his vehicle hit a tree and he fled -- leaving his pregnant girlfriend behind, authorities said.Does anyone notice the difference between the two articles? One names the driver of the car, and the other doesn't. Both are from AP.A police officer who suspected Denis Hodzic, 23, of speeding tried to pull him over early Monday, but Hodzic led him on a short chase in which Hodzic's vehicle clipped a house on Oneida Avenue and rammed a tree, according to Lt. Robin Hollwedel.
"He hit the corner of it. The tree stopped him more than the house did," Hollwedel said.
Hodzic then got out and fled on foot, leaving his girlfriend -- who is eight months pregnant -- in the car, according to Hollwedel.
The woman, whose name wasn't released, was unhurt but was taken to a hospital as a precaution.
Hodzic, whose driver's license is suspended, made a voluntary appearance at police headquarters along with his attorney later Monday.
He was cited for careless and negligent operation of a motor vehicle, attempting to elude a law enforcement officer and a probation violation before being released, police said.
This isn't the only example I found today. Here's a story from out in California. First from Yahoo-
SAN JOSE, Calif. - A drunken man broke into a small airport and tried to fill up his car's gas tank with jet fuel, police said. Police arrested the man, 20, on Sunday night for driving while intoxicated and attempted theft.Now here is the same news thanks to the San Francisco Chronicle-The man probably wasn't trying to save money. The aviation fuel in the pumps used for aircraft and race cars, was going for $5.97 a gallon, accessed by a credit card, authorities said.
"We've had people try and steal gas here in the past," said Jim Meide, who works in operations at the county-run Reid-Hillview Airport in East San Jose.
(07-29) 05:15 PDT San Jose, CA (AP) A drunken man broke into a small airport and tried to fill up his car's gas tank with jet fuel, police said.Why have two articles been altered to take the name of the criminal out of them? I've been noticing for some time, how the names are not in some news articles. Usually involving Reuters. I'll give one example, back in 2006 a man in London shot a rocket out of his buttocks. The Reuters version of the story never named the man, the London Times did.Police arrested Justin Rodebush, 20, on Sunday night for driving while intoxicated and attempted theft.
He probably wasn't trying to save money. The aviation fuel in the pumps used for aircraft and race cars, was going for $5.97 a gallon, accessed by a credit card, authorities said.
"We've had people try and steal gas here in the past," said Jim Meide, who works in operations at the county-run Reid-Hillview Airport in East San Jose.
If anyone wants to read about that knucklehead named Andrew Tilley, click here. The reason I notice this, is because I regularly troll Yahoo news looking for Knucklehead material, or just plain odd news. Why would two versions of the same news be put out by AP, one with it, one without it? Seems like a lot of trouble to me. Anyone want to speculate what as to what could be happening here? There are other differences in the articles, feel free to tell me if I'm being off base.



Comments (14)
Bill, at first blush, it se... (Below threshold)1. Posted by Tom Blogical | July 29, 2008 9:47 PM | Score: 1 (1 votes cast)
Bill, at first blush, it seems to me that there may be legal reasons to leave the name out of the article. Other than that, I'm not sure why they'd go out of their way to omit the name. I'd love to see an attorney's take on that.
1. Posted by Tom Blogical | July 29, 2008 9:47 PM |
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Posted on July 29, 2008 21:47
2. Posted by GarandFan | July 29, 2008 10:15 PM | Score: 1 (1 votes cast)
Legal reason? If the person has been arrested or cited, it should be public record. Maybe it has to be a felony before they'll name names?
2. Posted by GarandFan | July 29, 2008 10:15 PM |
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Posted on July 29, 2008 22:15
3. Posted by StevefromMKE | July 29, 2008 10:23 PM | Score: 2 (2 votes cast)
Next think you know, they'll be mentioning only one political party whenever some scandal breaks.
3. Posted by StevefromMKE | July 29, 2008 10:23 PM |
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Posted on July 29, 2008 22:23
4. Posted by MikeW | July 29, 2008 11:48 PM | Score: 1 (1 votes cast)
I'd say that different news outlets have differing standards to when a name can be disclosed. I don't think there's a legal reason that the name can't be published, but some would just have the policy that unless the person is particularly newsworthy, they remain anonymous. I don't really think there's any point in reading any more into it.
4. Posted by MikeW | July 29, 2008 11:48 PM |
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Posted on July 29, 2008 23:48
5. Posted by Brian | July 30, 2008 2:03 AM | Score: 4 (4 votes cast)
The pattern from your examples seems to be that the local outlets (newspaper sites) have the name, but the national outlets (Yahoo, AP) omit it. I'd guess this is AP providing "local" and "national" versions of the same article. Presumably local readers care about the name because they might know the guy, but someone in Montana probably doesn't care about the name of the guy in Vermont. Plus, "the man" is a lot shorter than "Justin Rodebush, 20".
5. Posted by Brian | July 30, 2008 2:03 AM |
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Posted on July 30, 2008 02:03
6. Posted by Oyster | July 30, 2008 6:21 AM | Score: 1 (1 votes cast)
Yeah, MikeW has a point, in each case you cite here one is a local version and the other is not. It's probably just an editorial rule.
6. Posted by Oyster | July 30, 2008 6:21 AM |
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Posted on July 30, 2008 06:21
7. Posted by Kristian | July 30, 2008 6:38 AM | Score: 1 (1 votes cast)
Different countries have different laws regarding release of that info, no? Canada seems a bit more reluctant to publish pre-trial conclusion info among others. So an international news distributor may have multiple feeds for different privacy policies, but in the freer countries it would still be up to the buyer (Yahoo, etc.) to decide which feed to run.
I don't think there is a conspiracy here...
7. Posted by Kristian | July 30, 2008 6:38 AM |
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Posted on July 30, 2008 06:38
8. Posted by John F Not Kerry | July 30, 2008 7:55 AM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
"a man in London shot a rocket out of his buttocks"
I've done this several times, but not on purpose!
8. Posted by John F Not Kerry | July 30, 2008 7:55 AM |
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Posted on July 30, 2008 07:55
9. Posted by Falze | July 30, 2008 9:04 AM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
It's possible that one was released earlier to 'get it out' and the name was added later as it became available through public records, etc. I don't think it has anything to do with censorship, personally. As a regular user of Yahoo news, that's not one of the things I've noticed about it. A far bigger problem is the misleading (you can see an example by clicking my name) and regularly-shifting main page 'headlines' that link to the top stories. I've complained to Yahoo about this before and they claim that they don't 'control' the 'headlines'. I suspect that is you-know-what, personally. But someone, a liberal someone, has demonstrated influence on those headlines. One notable example was last January - one of the headlines was "Dems set to elect first female House Speaker". A very short time later that headline was edited to read "Democrats set to elect first female House Speaker". The donkeys were feeling a little cranky about how they were being referred to around that time, if I recall.
Yahoo has also been quite liberal (pun intended) witht he use of the term 'domestic spying' in their headlines about the international surveillance program. They even use 'domesticspying' in their page names, even though the story doesn't use the term.
So, while there appears to be some fooling around with the news links at Yahoo, I haven't really seen any blanket editing or censoring, not like Google, certainly (which is why I use Yahoo instead of Google).
The 'local' vs. 'national' take is also a decent explanation. A local paper might run the 'long version' of a story while other places just want the shorter 'blurb' version.
9. Posted by Falze | July 30, 2008 9:04 AM |
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Posted on July 30, 2008 09:04
10. Posted by Baron Von Ottomatic | July 30, 2008 11:28 AM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
I imagine they're paving the way for omitting altogether the names of Democrats who are indicted/arrested in the future.
10. Posted by Baron Von Ottomatic | July 30, 2008 11:28 AM |
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Posted on July 30, 2008 11:28
11. Posted by Brian | July 30, 2008 1:36 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Yeah, MikeW has a point
Wow, Oyster, you can't even properly credit me when you agree with me! :-P
11. Posted by Brian | July 30, 2008 1:36 PM |
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Posted on July 30, 2008 13:36
12. Posted by Tom Blogical | July 30, 2008 9:44 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Brian:
I agree with you, and voted your comment up. Feel better? ;-)
12. Posted by Tom Blogical | July 30, 2008 9:44 PM |
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Posted on July 30, 2008 21:44
13. Posted by hcddbz | July 30, 2008 11:18 PM | Score: 1 (1 votes cast)
It is local vs other markets. Back in the 80's i belonged to compuserv and they had Executive News service. It allowed you to get wire services (UPI, API,AP,Reuters) news delivered to you. It also provide that you could get articles from world news papers. The same articles varied by content depending on where published.
13. Posted by hcddbz | July 30, 2008 11:18 PM |
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Posted on July 30, 2008 23:18
14. Posted by pennywit | July 31, 2008 1:02 AM | Score: 1 (1 votes cast)
Some of the previous commenters have the right of it.
Typically, the AP "coverage" of one of these mostly local, but kind of odd/funny stories starts out with the local newspaper running a full article, names and everything. The local or state AP bureau will grab the article, trim it of local color, and slap an AP byline on it.
If the story catches the eye of a national-level editor, that editor will grab the regional article, snip out some more local color, and perhaps even snip out names if they're not important enough.
Complicating this is the fact that for some reason, old-school reporters learn not to put proper names in leads unless the name is Jesus or Elvis. It's pain-in-the-ass rule, quite frankly. So, if you're snipping the unimportant parts of a locally generated story to put it in the national AP "Ain't this local news WACKY!" roundup, you're probably going to trim a few names.
Either that, or some editor at Yahoo! has decided to screw with Bill Jempty's mind.
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14. Posted by pennywit | July 31, 2008 1:02 AM |
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Posted on July 31, 2008 01:02