so, uh, let's see....three candidates, three messages. one (hillary) is "i was first lady, i deserve it, fucker! gimme!", two (mccain) is "i'm the straight talker! no bullshit (but my campaign is run by big money lobbyists, i'm already bought and paid for", three (obama) is "hope".

i'll take option three by default.

"mob-inciting, vote-rigging thugs of ACORN"....wow. you're truly a moron. it's apparent you've heard about the internet; maybe you should research the inner-city registration drives they've done. then again, maybe you're happier when poor darkies don't get to vote. "mob-inciting". wheeeeeew! you're a dick.

so, uh, the fact that Obama is lying about everything is ok djesno ...

I'll take door number 2 ... at least those big money folks will keep taxes low and kill Islamists ... 2 things I think you'll agree we all would benefit from ...

djesno,

actually you're the one that needs to do better research on the dozens of fraud cases against ACORN ...

and no, its not about stopping poor "darkies" from voting ... wow do you liberals stay up late imagining how racists talk ? you are really too much ... and too stupid to actually debate on this ...

before you respond (from wikipedia)

Allegations of election fraud

On September 7, 2004, a Columbus, Ohio grand jury indicted ACORN employee and felony parolee Kevin Eugene Dooley for election fraud. The indictment charges Dooley forged a signature to a voter registration form.[18]

In 2004, the Wisconsin Election Commission reported that between 4600 and 5300 more ballots were cast than voters who can be accounted for in Wisconsin (a state in which Democrat John Kerry defeated President Bush). The report states: "18 persons were sworn in as Deputy registrars in 2004 that were convicted felons and under Department of Correction Supervision. Of the 15 felons that listed a sponsoring organization, eight named ACORN as their sponsoring agency.".[19]

During the 2004 election, an ACORN member named Mac Stuart was working as a coordinator for minority voter outreach for ACORN's voter registration effort in Miami-Dade County. Stuart reported seeing ACORN workers copying voter registration forms, which is illegal under Florida law, and segregating voter registration forms for Republicans that were not subsequently turned into the County. After Stuart reported these irregularities to the election officials, ACORN fired him. Stuart filed suit against ACORN in May, 2005 for wrongful termination. ACORN countersued for defamation. Stuart's lawsuit was dismissed on the grounds that he couldn't prove he was terminated for reporting the allegations of fraud to the authorities.[20]

In August 2004 a lawsuit was filed in Albuquerque alleging that New Mexico Secretary of State Rebecca Vigil-Giron improperly exempted individuals who registered to vote through canvassers from requirements that some new registrants submit ID at polling places.[21] In a court case, ACORN director Matt Henderson invoked his Fifth Amendment rights when asked if his group made illegal copies of voter registration cards before submitting them. The Albuquerque Tribune claims he told them this was done.[21]

In January 2005 two ex-ACORN workers were convicted in Denver of perjury for submitting false voter registrations.[22] Some other investigations responding to fraud allegations ended in Colorado, Wisconsin,[20] ACORN said in a press release that it is in large part responsible in these individuals being caught, and has cooperated and publicly supported efforts to look into the validity of the allegations.[23]

ACORN was investigated in 2006 for submitting false voter registrations in St. Louis, Missouri. 1,492 fraudulent voter registrations were identified, some from the dead and others for underage voters who were not aware they had been registered by ACORN.[24]

ACORN was investigated in 2007 by King County, Washington for filing false registrations. An elections department employee called 400 phone numbers that were provided on the cards from a sample of those turned in by ACORN. Of the 400 phone numbers, only two were good, and both people denied filling out voter registration cards. The registrations were turned in after the deadline to register and the registrations were not processed for the 2006 election.[25] On July 26, 2007, felony charges were filed against seven ACORN employees including supervisors for filing 1762 false registrations.[26]

in any effort at voter registration (and in ballot initiatives, et al.) there will be errors and fraud. the errors are just that, errors. the fraud is almost always (as in this case) perpetrated by the signatories. ACORN can, and should, not be held accountable for the actions of persons who sign legal documents made available to them (i.e. voter registration documents and forms). it is the responsibility of the signator to be truthful, not the responsibility of ACORN. furthermore, it is the responsibility of the attendant state agency to account for the truthfulness and validity of any attestation and not of ACORN. for you to proclaim otherwise is facetious.

"...at least those big money folks will keep taxes low and kill Islamists"

heh.

there are two words you need to look up, cowboy: "xenophobia" and "serfdom".

"Obama is lying about everything"!

....erm, uh, and bush and cheney tell the truth about everything! RAH RAH!

From what I understand, his state senate seat was won by aggressively challenging the signatures of his Democratic challengers until he was the sole remaining Democratic candidate.

His ascension to Senator almost appears to have been handed to him.

"obama is lying about everything" is about as insulting a blanket statement (and indicative of a profound lack of depth) as can be offered. i might as well say back to you, "your sister gives a lousy blowjob, but it's better than your mom."

what you say about his senate seat is true, i must give you that (however immaterial it may be).

it might be said, however that mr. mccain and ms. clinton had their own underhanded ways of gaining their political power, and, to be truthful, ms. clinton's was perhaps the least underhanded.

Hey djesno, why don't you crawl back in the Daily Kos,Democrat Underground hole you crawled out of, you moron

When BHO was in the Illinois Senate, he was a party hack - he never went against the Democratic leadership and did nothing to distinguish himself. He is young, good looking and articulate, which apparently won him the Senate nomination, but running against Alan Keyes was almost a bye - a lot of Republicans wouldn't vote for Keyes. He's now been in the US Senate about 2 years, has not sponsored any major legislation, has voted the liberal line more consistently than any other Senator and his subcommittee on Afghanistan hasn't even held a hearing. He's about as qualified to be President as I am to be Pope.

HOW LONG IS IT GOING TO TAKE WHITE AMERICA TO SAY NO TO RACIST OBAMA, It's been proved with Rev Wright and confirmed with Pfleger he is racist! Once again he is connected with another so-called "preacher" at the so-called "church" TCC, which has proved to be a place to worship and spew hate against white Americans. WATCH THE VIDEO!!! Watch the blacks jumping up and down as the idiot Pfleger attacks white and the Former TWO TERM First Lady and WHITE WOMAN verbally. Once again in a so-called House of God. I think not. TCC is a racist radical group. Obama is not FIT to even be representing our country!!!!

SENATOR CLINTON SUPPORTERS ARE FURIOUS AND ALL WHITE VOTERS HAVE HAD ENOUGH OF THE BIASED MEDIA EXCUSING RACIST ATTACKS AGAINST US. I URGE ALL TO BOYCOTT CNN AND MSNBC FOR MANIPULATING THE MOST IMPORTANT ELECTION OF OUR TIME!!!!

WE DO NOT ACCEPT OBAMAS POLITICAL DAMAGE APOLOGY!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_H11x6bMu4Y

Just this Sunday Father Michael Pfleger (a longtime friend and associate of Senator Obama) mocked Hillary Clinton & AGAIN ATTACKED WHTE PEOPLE at Obama's church OF 20 PLUS YEARS.

"I really believe that she just always thought, 'This is mine! I'm Bill's wife, I'm white, and this is mine! I just gotta get up and step into the plate.' And then out of nowhere came, 'Hey, I'm Barack Obama,' and she said, 'Oh, damn! Where did you come from? I'm white! I'm entitled! There's a black man stealing my show! She wasn't the only one crying, there was a whole lot of white people crying!"

http://www.dontvoteobama.net

To the stop obama media guy
umm you forgot to mention that Michael Pfleger is white

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Sad little sacred white man...The thought of Black and poor people registering to vote and exercising freedom of choice scares the hell out of you doesn't it? Your people made up the rules and then when a half Black man follows the rules your forefathers made and wins, it is not fair all of a sudden. You people are nothing if not patronizing and hypocritical

JT, djesno is too foul for my taste. His comments are very unecessary and vile. ww

Good catch, Jay.

Key:

Important as these questions of funding and partisanship are, the larger point is that Obama's ties to Acorn -- arguably the most politically radical large-scale activist group in the country -- are wide, deep, and longstanding. If Acorn is adept at creating a non-partisan, inside-game veneer for what is in fact an intensely radical, leftist, and politically partisan reality, so is Obama himself.

Sad little sacred white man...The thought of Black and poor people registering to vote and exercising freedom of choice scares the hell out of you doesn't it? Your people made up the rules and then when a half Black man follows the rules your forefathers made and wins, it is not fair all of a sudden. You people are nothing if not patronizing and hypocritical.

"You people"?

You assert racism with that phrase?

That's pretty duplicitous and rather hypocritical unto itself.

This is all about ideology.

Racism is a refuge of the loser.

"(Personally, I never found her character that attractive; I was more drawn to Deep Space Nine's Nana Visitor and Terry Farrell.)"

Burn the heretic! Blood for Odin! :)

Re: "hope's" comment: "Sad little sacred white man"... Thanks for considering us "sacred", but I'm usually happy too!

From 5 above:
"ACORN was investigated in 2006 for submitting false voter registrations in St. Louis, Missouri. 1,492 fraudulent voter registrations were identified, some from the dead and others for underage voters who were not aware they had been registered by ACORN.[24]"
....
"ACORN can, and should, not be held accountable for the actions of persons who sign legal documents made available to them (i.e. voter registration documents and forms). it is the responsibility of the signator to be truthful, not the responsibility of ACORN."

How does a dead person sign a legal document? More importantly, how do we hold them accountable for their fraud and their attempts to besmirch the good name of ACORN?

The right wing definition of a" radical" organization: one that tries to make sure that those other than just republican conservatives get the opportunity to vote.

Looks like the JFO moonbats are out to defend voter-fraud. The moonbats hate voter fraud so much that they will defend a fraud organtization like ACORN. The moonbats hate lying so much that they nominate/defend known/proven fabricators like Clinton and Obama.

JFO -

The way the Democrat's lawyers descended on Florida in 2000, tossing out most of the military absentee ballots, I don't think you've got much room to talk about Republicans. I was in the AF Reserve at the time, and Gore didn't earn any points at all for this garbage.

http://www.aim.org/media-monitor/military-absentee-ballot-flap/

In the counting of the ballots in Florida, the handling of the absentee ballots from military personnel overseas became a critical issue because it might well determine whether Al Gore or George W. Bush would be our next president. We were pleased to see that in this case the liberal as well as the conservative media reported that the Democrats had launched a concerted effort to get as many of these ballots as possible thrown out. . Senator Lieberman, who appeared on five Sunday talk shows on November 19th was pressed to explain this. The Democrats were insisting that hand counting the ballots in four Democratic counties was required to insure that no ballots were rejected on technicalities if the intention of the voter was clear, but at the time they were insisting that ballots sent by servicemen overseas should be rejected if they lacked a postmark. Lieberman, who is supposed to be the moral pillar of the Democrats, waffled. He agreed that there should be no discrimination against military personnel, but he said it was not up to him to decide what to do about it. . Two days later, the Washington Times reported in a front-page story that in Duvall County, Democrats battled for 19 hours to maximize the rejection of military absentee ballots and succeeded in disqualifying ten percent of them. That included one where a Navy officer had written on the envelope that he could not get it postmarked on the ship he was on. That cost Bush 30 or 40 votes that he would need to offset the votes Gore is picking up in the hand counts being conducted to determine the intentions of the voters. . Altogether election officials rejected 1,527 of the military ballots according to an unofficial Associated Press survey. That was forty-one percent of the total received. The ballots that were counted gave Bush a net gain of 630 votes, and if all had been counted another 400 might have been added. The Democratic attorney general of Florida, Gore's campaign chairman for Florida, said military ballots should not be thrown out just because they lacked a postmark, but the New York Times reported that this may have had more to do with cutting Democratic losses in the public relations war than with insuring a fair count.

Yeah. I get it. It's a valid vote as long as it's for a DEMOCRAT. But if there's a chance it's for a Republican? THROW THE DAMN THING OUT!

"To the stop obama media guy

umm you forgot to mention that Michael Pfleger is white"

I think the think that is missing here is that this is not historical racism that is being decried.

This is Neo-Multiculturalism. The meme is that all cultures are equally wonderful. From the dictatorial rule in the former Burma to the warlords in Africa. Its all good.

But, there is one exception. Western Culture and specificially White American Culture needs to be held in contempt. They exploited all the other races culture to gain advantage. There's no other explanation because all are equal. Those buckets of money all the whites still get handed down generation to generation from the slave era profits are just wrong. And its time for you to give that money back.

It is the proverbial marxist 'exploitation of the worker' recast to race & culture. And its not a coincidence.

I forgot to add that in Multiculturialism, there is plenty of room available for white guilt (and opportunists)

JFO and his ilk do not like the military. Never did and never will. They have selective restrictions of voters. If the vote determination favors and democrat, that is justice, if it favors a republican, that is a right wing conspiricy to keep minorities down. It is pathetic on it's face, but so true. ACORN has been caught again and again committing voter fraud, but JFO defends them. ww

Wow...Willie the chickenhawk and wannabe killer of the residents of San Francisco is at it again. Tell us again Willie....what is it besides wanting to rid the country of all the residents of San Francisco that you do or have done for our country?

"umm you forgot to mention that Michael Pfleger is white"

So that makes Pflegers bullshit correct? ..

Oooh look he's WHITE so it MUST be true, why would he say such bad things about his own race!??

YA ooooK, cuz there is no such thing as white suburban kid wannabe's with pants hanging down their ass, hats on sideways, flashing gang signs, and using terms like "YO"..."SUP"

Pfleger along with the majority in that church is a racist whinebag..

And once again, JFO, you troll away - ignoring the substance of the topic and ignoring how often your brazen dishonesty is revealed.

When BHO was in the Illinois Senate, he was a party hack - he never went against the Democratic leadership and did nothing to distinguish himself. He is young, good looking and articulate, which apparently won him the Senate nomination, but running against Alan Keyes was almost a bye - a lot of Republicans wouldn't vote for Keyes. He's now been in the US Senate about 2 years, has not sponsored any major legislation, has voted the liberal line more consistently than any other Senator and his subcommittee on Afghanistan hasn't even held a hearing. He's about as qualified to be President as I am to be Pope.

You speak the truth.

Obama is a disaster and not only that he is a CFR Member to the fullest.

Wow sweetie, your a fvcking idiot.

Jay Tea,

I did a quick search but came up without that second case of unsealing an opponent's divorce records. Please...who besides Jack Ryan had their divorce records unsealed while running against Obama?

Thanks...