I would change your last sentence to: It's third time the" Party of the People" tried to do the right thing for America and for our troops.

The liberal democrats in Congress now are beyond contempt. They are so despicable. The dem party has become the moonbat party. Self-respected liberals (like Lieberman) would have run away from the modern dem party. Unless you are ignorant, it seems that only the moonbats now can support the dem party with a straight face.

Do they really not understand why their poll numbers are in the toilet?

And that is precisely why you're a seldom-correct commenter, JFO, and not an author or editor here.

J.

Hey Reid said the war was lost and he is trying to keep his word. He has to work fast as events in Iraq are getting past him.

And JFO, you really do not give a rats ass for the life of a single soldier. Stop trying to fake it.

The motto of the modern dem party: pork, defeat, and deception.

No wonder the terrorist leaders endorse the dems in general and Hillary in particular. Maybe the recent Hamas endorsement will help secure Hillary 's victory in the Dem primary after the last 2 weeks.

The democrats in congress have calculated the odds of 'them' being killed by one of their 'friends', the terrorists, and decided it's very small so the hell with the other 300 million people in the U.S. That's it in a nutshell since they have provided everything free that a good terrorist or other enemy (is there any that isn't Islamic?) could ask for. JFO thinks they care about his family, look at the facts and see how dense you have to be to believe that. It's all about their bloated ego's and personal power. They have the same mind power that a terrorists that straps a bomb on his body and kills as many as possible has. If they kill thousands and survive they won.
Did anyone see an American president on stage last night? Maybe the head of AQ or a Chavez, but not a president of the United States.

In all seriousness-

Voting for the Democratic Presidential nominee - or SITTING home and NOT voting for the Republican candidate- will be akin to the American public running their damn collective underwear up the flippin' flagpole and signaling surrender to the rest of the world.

Is that the American culture now?

LOSING, and being LOSERS?

Is that the message we want to send everyone?

Is that what the HELL the Democrats are going to SELL to the American people?

And-the American people- are they going to buy that?

There is not one- damn- Democrat selling a positive we can win message.

Go ahead America buy that "we are losing" and "we are losers" message from the Democratic Party-you'll be ending the longest free Republic, and the terrorists won't have to have lifted a finger.

Did anyone see an American president on stage last night? Maybe the head of AQ or a Chavez, but not a president of the United States.

Actually Scrapiron, there was one who understands the threat from abroad and said so last night. Joe Biden. But I don't consider even Biden "Presidential" material. The rest of the puppets on Wolffie's dog and pony show don't have a clue or are so tied to the radical left's money-train/voter base, they will sacrifice their own souls for the power to rule. It's a pretty sad epitaph to a party that at one time put the nations security ahead of their political ambitions.

Crap-

Who were the Four Republicans that voted with the Democrats....?

*Ugh*- maybe Warner or Lugar- I swear they've gone senile.

Who were the Four Republicans that voted with the Democrats....?

Collins (R-ME) Snowe (R-ME) Hagel (R-NE) Smith (R-OR)

Mike

Thanks.

Hagel doesn't surprise me-heck that's a given and hopefully he can be replaced by a Republican.

Snowe and Collins-gheez-the Maine voting bloc.

Can Texas cut off their heating oil ...

It is important to note the other vote taken. It was to fund the troops without the time line.

Pretty much a mirror image vote with a few exceptions. 45 yeas, 53 nays.

Dodd (D) voted with the republicans on the time line and against them on the funding without a time line (I suspect this was a parlimentarian manuever).

Snowe (R) voted against the republicans on the time line and with them on the funding without a time line.

Voinovich (R) voted with the republicans on the time line and against them on the funding without a time line.

Collins (R) voted against the republicans on the time line and with them on the funding.

The significance of course is that the democrats can't claim that the GOP is blocking the funding. The GOP is blocking the funding tied to a timeline for running away. The democrats are blocking the funding which does not have a date certain for defeat.

JohnFCertainlyNot KennedyakaJohnFNotKerry

Their poll numbers are in the toilet because they haven't done enough to get us out. It's dimwits like you folks who don't get it.

Jay T

If you are the shining example of a right wing author/editor I wouldn't want my name associated with you. You don't even have the basic honesty to admit what you are - a right wing hack who hides behind another label. And that is incredibly pathetic despite your occasional bleats that you occasionally have voted for a democrat.

JFO is so childish. Is anyone know if he is an adult?

"Their poll numbers are in the toilet because they haven't done enough to get us out."

Posted by JFO

Maybe from the whackjob left view, sure, but Republicans and independents are also polled. At least JOHN Kennedy would try for victory, as opposed to his water-loving brother.

Excuse the paraphrase JFO:

If you are the shining example of a left wing commenter/editor I wouldn't want my name associated with you, you make barenyG2000 look sane. You don't even have the basic honesty to admit what you are - a left wing hack who hides behind a blog pseudonym while sipping from a 55 gallon drum labeled "Kool-Aid Freely Provided by DKos Kiddies Re-education Camp LLC." And that is incredibly pathetic despite your occasional bleats that may or may not resemble sanity.

I'd give you a B marc, mostly for factual errors but mildly amusing which for you is a stretch. Though your fellow (wing)nuts will think you're a howl.

JFO, I think you are a howler, just like your comments.

Is anyone know if he is an adult?

Don't know, but I think we can safely say our children isn't learning.

JFO opines:
"If you are the shining example of a right wing author/editor I wouldn't want my name associated with you."

Now, JFO, are you asking someone for an opinion of JT so that you, indeed, will not post here anymore?
I will step in and say that JT IS a shining example of a right wing author. Your supposition has been answered and since you do not want your name associated with his, I want to be the first so say you'll be far from missed.

"Their poll number's are in the shitter because they have'nt done enough to get us out."

Posted by JFO

If they "dim's" had not fought against our military's efforts the last 4 years we would already have been exiting victorious.

When JFO first started commenting here he seemed to at least try to make a point with a modicum of sincerity and forethought. But I'm afraid it was much like many first-dates where you try to impress the person you're out with. Sometimes it takes a second or third date to see through them. JFO had his third date quite a while back and has long since taken off the mask; now he offers nothing but anger and insult because we didn't commit to a relationship. Now he's a stalker.

Oyster - "JFO had his third date quite a while back"

And he lost his hymen to MorOn.org. To make matters worse he wasn't smart enough to order the lobster on the third date. He opted for the much cheaper "Red Plate Special."

Why, why,why waste any time on JFO? ww

Let us revisit the purpose for the surge...
...hmmm something about allowing the Iraqi Govt to get it together...When will you all admit...there is NO Iraqi Govt to get together.....
many folks made a big deal about them taking off time in August ...and not accomplishing anything..
well this is November...and they still are not accomplishing anything..do they even gather..vote?
The death of any brave troop for this illusionary govt is not an honorable death...but an unnecessary one
but their blood is on ALL our hands.
And please..the one person who can end this is a Republican..his name is Bush.

Maybe from the whackjob left view, sure, but Republicans and independents are also polled.

So you think Congress polls low among Democrats because they're opposing Bush too much?

Defeatocrats: demand withdrawal and surrender in the middle of a win! Unbelievable.

Now you know why few trust them with our defense dept.

I don't have a problem with Democrats proposing spending limits on war funding. Accountability is applicable to any situation. However, in this case there doesn't seem to be a rationale or reason behind their position, other than idealogy.

Wow, how sad is modern liberalism! All they can think of is to oppose Bush. All they can think of is how to smear/slander America and its military. Can any liberal will publicly say what Sarkozy said? (ht Rush)

SARKOZY (via translator): To the millions of men and women who came from every country in the world and who, with their own hands, their intelligence, and their hearts, built the greatest nation in the world, America did not say, "Come, and everything will be given to you." Rather, she said, "Come, and the only limits to what you will be able to achieve will be those of your own courage, your boldness, and your talent."
...
SARKOZY (via translator): The America that we love throughout the world embodies this extraordinary ability to grant each and every person a second chance, another chance -- because, in America, failure is never the last word. There is always another chance. Here, in your country, on this soil, both the humblest and the most illustrious citizens alike know that nothing is owed to them and that everything has to be earned. That is what constitutes the moral value of America.

...
SARKOZY: America liberated us, and this is an eternal debt we owe America.
...
SARKOZY: Every time, whenever an American soldier falls somewhere in the world, I think of what the American army did for France. I think of them, and I am sad as one is saddened to lose a member of one's family.

...
SARKOZY (via translator): We need France to be stronger. I am determined to carry through with the reforms that my country has put off for all too long. I will not turn back. I will implement all of them because France has turned back for all too long. I have come to present to you today a France that comes out to meet America, to renew the covenant of friendship and alliance that Washington and Lafayette sealed in Yorktown. Together let us be true to their memories. Yes, ladies and gentlemen, I say this to you on behalf of the French people: "Long live the United States of America! Long live France! Long live French-American friendship!"

The anti-American defeatists are beside themselves at the progress being made.

Watch 'em squirm.

It seems absolutely against all rules for a liberal to

admit their errors
make any attempt to do what must be done to correct their errors
stop making the same errors
stop trying to come up with even bigger errors to commit