Stop the ACLU has links to some info about the release of a second video from Osama bin Laden in one week. Rusty Shackleford makes a point I didn't consider -- what will the 9/11 truthers think about this?
An official al Qaeda release with a bin Laden intro and voice over and then video of one of the 19 hijackers' celebrating his impending death I wonder how the 9/11 truthers are going to respond? Since we already have a similar al Qaeda video in which Mohammed Atta and others speak, I guess we already know how the truthers are going to respond: it's all a CIA plot, man.
Paul Adds Just to stop the media nonsense spin... The media keeps saying this is about the the 9/11 anniversary. Oh please! This is the 6th anniversary of 9/11 and bin Laden has never made this big a deal over it. Why this one? Why this year? Well, you should also consider that the German terrorists had a deadline of September 15th also. Gee, what's happening between now and the 15th? I can't imagine why all this is happening at once. Update2 Maybe I was too subtle... Al Qaeda is clearly trying to influence this week's debate in Congress.
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Is this a second video, or ... (Below threshold)1. Posted by kim | September 10, 2007 9:48 AM | Score: 3 (5 votes cast)
Is this a second video, or the same one coming out piecemeal? The one generally released by MSM recently was at least partly redacted, I believe.
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1. Posted by kim | September 10, 2007 9:48 AM |
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Posted on September 10, 2007 09:48
2. Posted by Paul | September 10, 2007 9:59 AM | Score: 3 (5 votes cast)
second vid apparently filmed same location... timing unknown to me at this point.
2. Posted by Paul | September 10, 2007 9:59 AM |
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Posted on September 10, 2007 09:59
3. Posted by kim | September 10, 2007 10:16 AM | Score: 3 (5 votes cast)
al Qaeda lost control of the distribution of this filming, presumably our intelligence intercepted it, and there is some suggestion that the shutdown of al Qaeda websites was an attempt to pinpoint the leak. Releasing more video would aid that effort.
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3. Posted by kim | September 10, 2007 10:16 AM |
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Posted on September 10, 2007 10:16
4. Posted by kim | September 10, 2007 10:26 AM | Score: 3 (5 votes cast)
Good comment over there, Paul. This is pretty surely related to the Petraeus/Crocker reports, and the spin machines are cranking like mad.
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4. Posted by kim | September 10, 2007 10:26 AM |
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Posted on September 10, 2007 10:26
5. Posted by 89 | September 10, 2007 10:27 AM | Score: 0 (4 votes cast)
The start of Ramadan, right? Well, al Qaida and other Islamic war mongers have never actually made so very much of a big deal over ramadan either. Making war during the holy month was rather common.
You do have a point that "September 11th" is a Gregorian date which has less meaning for al Qaida though.
5. Posted by 89 | September 10, 2007 10:27 AM |
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Posted on September 10, 2007 10:27
6. Posted by kim | September 10, 2007 10:49 AM | Score: 4 (6 votes cast)
No, no, 89. The Petraeus Report. Ramadan is probably co-incidental to the timing of these political events.
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6. Posted by kim | September 10, 2007 10:49 AM |
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Posted on September 10, 2007 10:49
7. Posted by Neo | September 10, 2007 10:57 AM | Score: 0 (2 votes cast)
Bullwinkle has the latest video of UBL ?
7. Posted by Neo | September 10, 2007 10:57 AM |
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Posted on September 10, 2007 10:57
8. Posted by mantis | September 10, 2007 11:19 AM | Score: 2 (2 votes cast)
Don't know if it's sticking among the "thruthers," but this theory's making the rounds.
Since I can't translate the tape myself, I don't know if it's bullshit or not.
8. Posted by mantis | September 10, 2007 11:19 AM |
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Posted on September 10, 2007 11:19
9. Posted by 89 | September 10, 2007 11:33 AM | Score: 0 (2 votes cast)
Ah, thanks Kim. I really slapped my forehead now that you pointed it out. It should have been obvious.
9. Posted by 89 | September 10, 2007 11:33 AM |
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Posted on September 10, 2007 11:33
10. Posted by kim | September 10, 2007 11:50 AM | Score: 0 (2 votes cast)
Well, it is all confusing. There are three events, the anniversary, the Petraeus/Crocker report, and the start of Ramadan. The video purports to be about the anniversary, but probably is timed to effect the dialogue in Congress and the press.
mantis has a nice link. There is skullduggery and probably information warfare going on about the release of this video, probably from both sides.
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10. Posted by kim | September 10, 2007 11:50 AM |
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Posted on September 10, 2007 11:50
11. Posted by Paul | September 10, 2007 12:06 PM | Score: 1 (3 votes cast)
dunno for sure obviously, but I'm leaning very very strongly toward B.S. The U.S. Intel folks says the voice print matches.
11. Posted by Paul | September 10, 2007 12:06 PM |
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Posted on September 10, 2007 12:06
12. Posted by marc | September 10, 2007 3:45 PM | Score: 1 (1 votes cast)
He firmly believes all 19 were never on any planes and are still alive somewhere.
Presumably living with Elvis, Hoffa and Hitler although he never made that claim.
12. Posted by marc | September 10, 2007 3:45 PM |
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Posted on September 10, 2007 15:45
13. Posted by SPQR | September 10, 2007 4:10 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
The first video is pretty crudely faked with only about 3 or 4 minutes of actual video in a 26 minute long tape.
13. Posted by SPQR | September 10, 2007 4:10 PM |
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Posted on September 10, 2007 16:10
14. Posted by LAB | September 10, 2007 8:52 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
The thing I find the most confusing is why they would keep showing these fake videos of OBL when he was reported dead in some newspapers.
CNN
BBC
Fox News
Translation of Funeral Article in Egyptian Paper:
al-Wafd, Wednesday, December 26, 2001 Vol 15 No 4633
News of Bin Laden's Death
and Funeral 10 days ago
Islamabad -
A prominent official in the Afghan Taleban movement announced yesterday the death of Osama bin Laden, the chief of al-Qa'da organization, stating that binLaden suffered serious complications in the lungs and died a natural and quiet death. The official, who asked to remain anonymous, stated to The Observer of Pakistan that he had himself attended the funeral of bin Laden and saw his face prior to burial in Tora Bora 10 days ago. He mentioned that 30 of al-Qa'da fighters attended the burial as well as members of his family and some friends from the Taleban. In the farewell ceremony to his final rest guns were fired in the air. The official stated that it is difficult to pinpoint the burial location of bin Laden because according to the Wahhabi tradition no mark is left by the grave. He stressed that it is unlikely that the American forces would ever uncover any traces of bin Laden.
What are they trying to perpetuate with this image?
14. Posted by LAB | September 10, 2007 8:52 PM |
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Posted on September 10, 2007 20:52
15. Posted by moseby | September 11, 2007 12:26 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Is this second video the one with a pig sh**ing in bin laden's mouth? Oh wait that was britney spears....
15. Posted by moseby | September 11, 2007 12:26 PM |
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Posted on September 11, 2007 12:26