Just when you think you can safely write 'em off as a bunch of intolerant Bible-thumping Jesus freaks, they go and do something like this...
Funny how you never see any Muslim organizations doing that sort of thing. I guess building codes prohibit putting up temporary stone walls just so they'll have something to knock over on top of the gays...
1. Posted by
Old Coot | April 16, 2007 8:38 AM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Old Coot:
And the health department has some very stringent regulations regarding beheadings, but perhaps the Religion of Peace(TM) could get a waiver on religious grounds.
1. Posted by
Old Coot | April 16, 2007 8:38 AM |
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2. Posted by
kim | April 16, 2007 9:26 AM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
kim:
Right, excessive and extravagant, as well as deliberate, environmental contamination with hazardous bodily fluids. Get the EPA involved.
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2. Posted by
kim | April 16, 2007 9:26 AM |
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3. Posted by
civil behavior | April 16, 2007 9:43 AM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
civil behavior:
Hallelujah!! From this I'm sure good christians everywhere will open up their hearts to gays and lesbians alike and begin treating them like the humans that they are. Equal rights will emerge from such a display of this reaching out so that gays and lesbians will never have to fear further discrimination at the invectives hurled at them from good christians everywhere.
Yes, Muslims could learn from this and carry this spirit of minding their own business and quit attacking foreign peoples for their personal views of what is good and special for all. Given that good christians superior beliefs are meant to teach Muslims how to better themselves in their search for democracy and equal treatment for all, good christians like those at Gordon U are showing they have an open mind to listen to all sides. Only then do we bomb the hell out of them.
3. Posted by
civil behavior | April 16, 2007 9:43 AM |
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8. Posted by
Jeff | April 16, 2007 10:29 AM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Jeff:
"Funny how you never see any Muslim organizations doing that sort of thing."
Funnier how you never see any mainstream colleges doing this sort of thing. That is, inviting people with whom the campus majority disagrees to speak on campus and have a peaceful dialogue. How often do conservative speakers get shouted down by liberal groups on mainstream campuses, with the administration doing nothing to stop it? How often do said speakers have their invitations cancelled out of "safety concerns?" Those responsible for this pattern could learn or thing or two from this example.
Unfortunatey, the article indicates that the same or worse often happens to these "Soulforce" speakers on Christian campuses. It appears liberal campuses don't have a monopoly on closed-mindedness.
8. Posted by
Jeff | April 16, 2007 10:29 AM |
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9. Posted by
Drago | April 16, 2007 10:51 AM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Drago:
Jeff: "Unfortunatey, the article indicates that the same or worse often happens to these "Soulforce" speakers on Christian campuses."
Patently false.
Conservatives who have proper invitations to "secular" public institutions are often shouted down by those who proclaim themselves "tolerant".
The Soulforce speakers were not invited to the Christian (Private, decidedly non-secular) campuses. The Soulforce speakers are much more accurately described as "trespassers" on this private property.
The fact that Jeff cannot discern the difference between these situations speaks volumes indeed, but not about the Christian schools.
9. Posted by
Drago | April 16, 2007 10:51 AM |
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10. Posted by
kim | April 16, 2007 10:57 AM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
kim:
There certainly is an important difference, Drago, which Jeff ignores at his peril. However, the point about closemindedness is not without some merit.
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10. Posted by
kim | April 16, 2007 10:57 AM |
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A totally pointless exercise on the part of the Christian school.
First off, it is a private organization with its own standards for admittance - belief, adherence & practise to certain primary spiritual or philisophical tenets being of utmost importance. I'm quite certain that a rabid anti-theist or anarchist would not be admitted their school.
Second, these 'gay' activists do not want a dialog on this subject. These 'gay' activists want a stiffling of debate and a complete surrender from anyone in oppositon to their perverted sexual practices. Period. Public universities employ the same tactics against conservative individuals and groups.
These 'tolerant' Christians are fools if they think the objective of these 'gay' activists is anything other than complete silence from those in opposition to their perverted sexual practices.
~Next stop: congessional legislation & the thought police. Mark my words.
12. Posted by
WildWillie | April 16, 2007 11:19 AM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
WildWillie:
When I see a homeless person, drunk on the street and smoking a decarded cigarette butt, I have pity on him, pray for him, give thanks that I am not in that position and hope he turns his life around and not be a drunkard, drug addict and/or sluggard.
When I see homosexuals, I pray for them, hope they turn from there sin instead of gladly embracing it.
Yes we are all God's children, but there are always consequences for our actions. If you live in sin and not acknowlege that sin and really try to turn from it, you are damned. Free will. It is a killer. Choices should be carefully considered. ww
12. Posted by
WildWillie | April 16, 2007 11:19 AM |
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15. Posted by
WildWillie | April 16, 2007 11:25 AM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
WildWillie:
I personally just believe what I read. Sin is sin. Embracing sin is to turn from God. God allows you that choice. All and all, since those that believe know we are really discussing eternity, I will take Gods ideas over man's. ww
15. Posted by
WildWillie | April 16, 2007 11:25 AM |
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17. Posted by
bryanD | April 16, 2007 12:01 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
bryanD:
So you'd take Jesus's ideas over Paul's?
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Posted by: kim
SUCH a poseur you are, Kim! Gawd!
And wildwillie has a point. Basically, the "action" of homosexuality cause a reaction, which is best illustrated by the life expectancy of the male homosexual.
17. Posted by
bryanD | April 16, 2007 12:01 PM |
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18. Posted by
Steve Crickmore | April 16, 2007 2:16 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Steve Crickmore:
Funny how you never see any Muslim organizations doing that sort of thing Progressive American Muslims Push for Reinterpretation of Islam(including gay rights) from the Progressive Muslim Union...I wish them luck, but I doubt they'll have a chapter in the deep South.
18. Posted by
Steve Crickmore | April 16, 2007 2:16 PM |
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20. Posted by
civil behavior | April 16, 2007 2:30 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
civil behavior:
For Kim and Sheik, since you find my idiom perplexing I'll step it down a notch just for you.
Good christians everywhere desire to teach evil muslims everywhere how polite they can be while hating the very essence of a person. How mighty Christian of them.
Clear enough?
20. Posted by
civil behavior | April 16, 2007 2:30 PM |
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CB, you oughta know all about hatefulness. You've cornered the market on it. You've never posted anything here, or anywhere else I've seen your missives, that didn't contain some sort of sneering degradation of those you disagree with.
It's no wonder you get the reactions you do.
21. Posted by
Oyster | April 16, 2007 3:02 PM |
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24. Posted by
MikeSC | April 17, 2007 11:12 AM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
MikeSC:
Funny how you never see any Muslim organizations doing that sort of thing
Progressive American Muslims Push for Reinterpretation of Islam(including gay rights) from the Progressive Muslim Union...I wish them luck, but I doubt they'll have a chapter in the deep South.
Funny, it's the northeast that tends to have the most racial strife, yet it's the South that has the reputation.
-=Mike
24. Posted by
MikeSC | April 17, 2007 11:12 AM |
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25. Posted by
kim | April 17, 2007 2:43 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
kim:
That's because there is a tradition of respect for the labor of blacks by the dominant political class in the South; not so in the North, where they were unwanted competition for labor, and thus were shunted to their liberal ghettoes.
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kim | April 17, 2007 2:43 PM |
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And the health department h... (Below threshold)1. Posted by Old Coot | April 16, 2007 8:38 AM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
And the health department has some very stringent regulations regarding beheadings, but perhaps the Religion of Peace(TM) could get a waiver on religious grounds.
1. Posted by Old Coot | April 16, 2007 8:38 AM |
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Posted on April 16, 2007 08:38
2. Posted by kim | April 16, 2007 9:26 AM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Right, excessive and extravagant, as well as deliberate, environmental contamination with hazardous bodily fluids. Get the EPA involved.
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2. Posted by kim | April 16, 2007 9:26 AM |
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Posted on April 16, 2007 09:26
3. Posted by civil behavior | April 16, 2007 9:43 AM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Hallelujah!! From this I'm sure good christians everywhere will open up their hearts to gays and lesbians alike and begin treating them like the humans that they are. Equal rights will emerge from such a display of this reaching out so that gays and lesbians will never have to fear further discrimination at the invectives hurled at them from good christians everywhere.
Yes, Muslims could learn from this and carry this spirit of minding their own business and quit attacking foreign peoples for their personal views of what is good and special for all. Given that good christians superior beliefs are meant to teach Muslims how to better themselves in their search for democracy and equal treatment for all, good christians like those at Gordon U are showing they have an open mind to listen to all sides. Only then do we bomb the hell out of them.
3. Posted by civil behavior | April 16, 2007 9:43 AM |
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Posted on April 16, 2007 09:43
4. Posted by Sheik Yur Bouty | April 16, 2007 9:55 AM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
cb,
Your sarcasm would be much more effective if it was even remotely coherent.
4. Posted by Sheik Yur Bouty | April 16, 2007 9:55 AM |
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Posted on April 16, 2007 09:55
5. Posted by kim | April 16, 2007 10:20 AM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Shall we compare the sayings of Jesus and Mohammad with respect to homosexuality?
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5. Posted by kim | April 16, 2007 10:20 AM |
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Posted on April 16, 2007 10:20
6. Posted by kim | April 16, 2007 10:23 AM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Which might explain why someone, oh so unusually, felt like bombing the uncivil hell out of he cares not whom.
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6. Posted by kim | April 16, 2007 10:23 AM |
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Posted on April 16, 2007 10:23
7. Posted by kim | April 16, 2007 10:24 AM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
SYB, carpet bombing is essentially incoherent. Let him rage; it does him good.
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7. Posted by kim | April 16, 2007 10:24 AM |
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Posted on April 16, 2007 10:24
8. Posted by Jeff | April 16, 2007 10:29 AM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
"Funny how you never see any Muslim organizations doing that sort of thing."
Funnier how you never see any mainstream colleges doing this sort of thing. That is, inviting people with whom the campus majority disagrees to speak on campus and have a peaceful dialogue. How often do conservative speakers get shouted down by liberal groups on mainstream campuses, with the administration doing nothing to stop it? How often do said speakers have their invitations cancelled out of "safety concerns?" Those responsible for this pattern could learn or thing or two from this example.
Unfortunatey, the article indicates that the same or worse often happens to these "Soulforce" speakers on Christian campuses. It appears liberal campuses don't have a monopoly on closed-mindedness.
8. Posted by Jeff | April 16, 2007 10:29 AM |
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Posted on April 16, 2007 10:29
9. Posted by Drago | April 16, 2007 10:51 AM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Jeff: "Unfortunatey, the article indicates that the same or worse often happens to these "Soulforce" speakers on Christian campuses."
Patently false.
Conservatives who have proper invitations to "secular" public institutions are often shouted down by those who proclaim themselves "tolerant".
The Soulforce speakers were not invited to the Christian (Private, decidedly non-secular) campuses. The Soulforce speakers are much more accurately described as "trespassers" on this private property.
The fact that Jeff cannot discern the difference between these situations speaks volumes indeed, but not about the Christian schools.
9. Posted by Drago | April 16, 2007 10:51 AM |
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Posted on April 16, 2007 10:51
10. Posted by kim | April 16, 2007 10:57 AM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
There certainly is an important difference, Drago, which Jeff ignores at his peril. However, the point about closemindedness is not without some merit.
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10. Posted by kim | April 16, 2007 10:57 AM |
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Posted on April 16, 2007 10:57
11. Posted by locomotivebreath1901 | April 16, 2007 11:17 AM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
A totally pointless exercise on the part of the Christian school.
First off, it is a private organization with its own standards for admittance - belief, adherence & practise to certain primary spiritual or philisophical tenets being of utmost importance. I'm quite certain that a rabid anti-theist or anarchist would not be admitted their school.
Second, these 'gay' activists do not want a dialog on this subject. These 'gay' activists want a stiffling of debate and a complete surrender from anyone in oppositon to their perverted sexual practices. Period. Public universities employ the same tactics against conservative individuals and groups.
These 'tolerant' Christians are fools if they think the objective of these 'gay' activists is anything other than complete silence from those in opposition to their perverted sexual practices.
~Next stop: congessional legislation & the thought police. Mark my words.
11. Posted by locomotivebreath1901 | April 16, 2007 11:17 AM |
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Posted on April 16, 2007 11:17
12. Posted by WildWillie | April 16, 2007 11:19 AM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
When I see a homeless person, drunk on the street and smoking a decarded cigarette butt, I have pity on him, pray for him, give thanks that I am not in that position and hope he turns his life around and not be a drunkard, drug addict and/or sluggard.
When I see homosexuals, I pray for them, hope they turn from there sin instead of gladly embracing it.
Yes we are all God's children, but there are always consequences for our actions. If you live in sin and not acknowlege that sin and really try to turn from it, you are damned. Free will. It is a killer. Choices should be carefully considered. ww
12. Posted by WildWillie | April 16, 2007 11:19 AM |
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Posted on April 16, 2007 11:19
13. Posted by kim | April 16, 2007 11:21 AM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
So your sexuality is your choice, ww?
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13. Posted by kim | April 16, 2007 11:21 AM |
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Posted on April 16, 2007 11:21
14. Posted by kim | April 16, 2007 11:22 AM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
I thought the Thimerasol did it.
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14. Posted by kim | April 16, 2007 11:22 AM |
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Posted on April 16, 2007 11:22
15. Posted by WildWillie | April 16, 2007 11:25 AM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
I personally just believe what I read. Sin is sin. Embracing sin is to turn from God. God allows you that choice. All and all, since those that believe know we are really discussing eternity, I will take Gods ideas over man's. ww
15. Posted by WildWillie | April 16, 2007 11:25 AM |
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Posted on April 16, 2007 11:25
16. Posted by kim | April 16, 2007 11:30 AM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
So you'd take Jesus's ideas over Paul's?
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16. Posted by kim | April 16, 2007 11:30 AM |
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Posted on April 16, 2007 11:30
17. Posted by bryanD | April 16, 2007 12:01 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
So you'd take Jesus's ideas over Paul's?
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Posted by: kim
SUCH a poseur you are, Kim! Gawd!
And wildwillie has a point. Basically, the "action" of homosexuality cause a reaction, which is best illustrated by the life expectancy of the male homosexual.
17. Posted by bryanD | April 16, 2007 12:01 PM |
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Posted on April 16, 2007 12:01
18. Posted by Steve Crickmore | April 16, 2007 2:16 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Funny how you never see any Muslim organizations doing that sort of thing
Progressive American Muslims Push for Reinterpretation of Islam(including gay rights) from the Progressive Muslim Union...I wish them luck, but I doubt they'll have a chapter in the deep South.
18. Posted by Steve Crickmore | April 16, 2007 2:16 PM |
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Posted on April 16, 2007 14:16
19. Posted by Bo | April 16, 2007 2:30 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Exactly where do you see a dispute between Jesus's and Paul's teachings, kim?
19. Posted by Bo | April 16, 2007 2:30 PM |
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Posted on April 16, 2007 14:30
20. Posted by civil behavior | April 16, 2007 2:30 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
For Kim and Sheik, since you find my idiom perplexing I'll step it down a notch just for you.
Good christians everywhere desire to teach evil muslims everywhere how polite they can be while hating the very essence of a person. How mighty Christian of them.
Clear enough?
20. Posted by civil behavior | April 16, 2007 2:30 PM |
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Posted on April 16, 2007 14:30
21. Posted by Oyster | April 16, 2007 3:02 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
CB, you oughta know all about hatefulness. You've cornered the market on it. You've never posted anything here, or anywhere else I've seen your missives, that didn't contain some sort of sneering degradation of those you disagree with.
It's no wonder you get the reactions you do.
21. Posted by Oyster | April 16, 2007 3:02 PM |
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Posted on April 16, 2007 15:02
22. Posted by kim | April 16, 2007 3:08 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Keep up the carpet hating, cb; we want to see you get rid of it all. Don't slack off now.
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22. Posted by kim | April 16, 2007 3:08 PM |
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Posted on April 16, 2007 15:08
23. Posted by kim | April 17, 2007 7:56 AM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
If there were a dispute, one would be the word of God, and the other the word of man, right?
Once again, what was the word of God?
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23. Posted by kim | April 17, 2007 7:56 AM |
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Posted on April 17, 2007 07:56
24. Posted by MikeSC | April 17, 2007 11:12 AM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Funny how you never see any Muslim organizations doing that sort of thing
Progressive American Muslims Push for Reinterpretation of Islam(including gay rights) from the Progressive Muslim Union...I wish them luck, but I doubt they'll have a chapter in the deep South.
Funny, it's the northeast that tends to have the most racial strife, yet it's the South that has the reputation.
-=Mike
24. Posted by MikeSC | April 17, 2007 11:12 AM |
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Posted on April 17, 2007 11:12
25. Posted by kim | April 17, 2007 2:43 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
That's because there is a tradition of respect for the labor of blacks by the dominant political class in the South; not so in the North, where they were unwanted competition for labor, and thus were shunted to their liberal ghettoes.
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25. Posted by kim | April 17, 2007 2:43 PM |
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Posted on April 17, 2007 14:43