24 and Prison Break Tonight (Wizbang)

Two of my favorite shows on television are now on the same night. Prison Break returns to join "24" on Monday nights on Fox. If you have not watched Prison Break before, you might want to see about renting the first season on DVD. I can't imagine catching up on that one without seeing the earlier episodes. It is a great show, but you have to suspend disbelief in a big way to enjoy it. Wentworth Miller's character, with the coolest tattoo on earth, is really compelling and the plot twists are every bit as exciting and unexpected as those on "24."

Consider this your "24" open discussion thread. Last Monday night was sad because Jack had to shoot Curtis. (I don't know why he couldn't just shoot him in the thigh.) It wasn't unexpected though. I figured something had to happen to Curtis before Ricky Schroder could come on board, but it was sad just the same. As if shooting Curtis wasn't sad enough, a nuclear bomb detonated before CTU could locate it, so I am sure we will hear some pretty nasty body counts tonight. If the intel gained from the detention facility is correct, there are four more bombs out there to find. And there is no time! Poor Jack is battered, physically and emotionally, but there is no doubt that he will step up when his country needs him. Anyone have any guesses about where those other bombs might be located? They can't be too far away or much of the 24 hours will be eaten by travel time. I look forward to reading your comments tonight.

Jay Tea adds: Of course, the REALLY cool kids will be watching "How I Met Your Mother" and "Heroes" tonight.

Jack who?

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The more I ponder it, the m... (Below threshold)

1. Posted by Mitchell | January 22, 2007 6:18 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)

Mitchell:

The more I ponder it, the more I am dissatisfied with new President (wasn't he discredited with his philandering and covering up murder?--he's not a rock solid actor like the other Palmer character), the gerbil character who plays FBI director, and the killing of Curtis. Godsakes, Curtis has been rock solid and is the special ops. guy for all of CTU, but he has an emotional break down and kills some guy cooperating to save the country.

I think the writers need to slow down and apply a bit more of a rigorous analysis to their plot development.

Doesn't mean I ain't watchin' tonight, just means I want it to be . . .Rock Solid, dammit.

Posted on January 22, 2007 18:18

Lorie-(I don't ... (Below threshold)

2. Posted by Rory | January 22, 2007 6:19 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)

Rory:

Lorie-

(I don't know why he couldn't just shoot him in the thigh.)

Because it's HollyWOOOOD-that and they din't want to pay him.

Posted on January 22, 2007 18:19

What? No mention of the sea... (Below threshold)

3. Posted by DJ | January 22, 2007 6:39 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)

DJ:

What? No mention of the season premier for Heroes on NBC (on at the same time as 24)?

Its a really good night for network programming.

Posted on January 22, 2007 18:39

Lorie, I think Jack had to ... (Below threshold)

4. Posted by goddessoftheclassroom | January 22, 2007 7:05 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)

goddessoftheclassroom:

Lorie, I think Jack had to aim for the head because of the way Curtis was holding the hostage in front of him.

I still can't get over the fact that Jack isn't even suffering from jet lag after the flight from China!

(goodness, how I love this show!)

Posted on January 22, 2007 19:05

Lorie,Jack shoots ... (Below threshold)

5. Posted by woody | January 22, 2007 7:06 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)

woody:

Lorie,

Jack shoots the Rock Solid Curtis in the thigh, & Curtis returns fire to Jack's head. Nobody shoots to wound, not since John Wayne died. The ACLU's freeing terrorists has taught us all a lesson.

Jay,

Um, ever hear of DVRs? & How I Met Yr Mother is for sissies. Get a piece & a man-purse & do your country a favor--oh, & become a cheerleader whose ass can't ever be kicked!!!

Posted on January 22, 2007 19:06

Heroes opposite 2... (Below threshold)

6. Posted by Jess | January 22, 2007 7:37 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)

Jess:

Heroes opposite 24 is just killing me. I think I need one of those new-fangled TiVo doohickeys.

Posted on January 22, 2007 19:37

I don't know why he coul... (Below threshold)

7. Posted by al | January 22, 2007 7:38 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)

al:

I don't know why he couldn't just shoot him in the thigh

Interrupt the central nervous system or he shoots the 'converted' terrorist - whom Jack is trying to save.

Jack's a excellent shot for being in a Chinese labor camp for so long.

Hey Jay - I'll be watching Heros with my daughter and 24 on HD DVR afterwards.

Posted on January 22, 2007 19:38

Lorie-Actually<... (Below threshold)

8. Posted by Rory | January 22, 2007 7:44 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)

Actually the writers had to kill off Curtis to make room in the budget for your favorite character to come back-

Audrey. heh.

Episode 12.

Posted on January 22, 2007 19:44

I'm stuck out-of-town tonig... (Below threshold)

9. Posted by DJFelix | January 22, 2007 7:45 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)

DJFelix:

I'm stuck out-of-town tonight at a sales conference ... I'll have to catch up with you guys Thursday when I'm back home.

Posted on January 22, 2007 19:45

I'm still at work, so the V... (Below threshold)

10. Posted by Teacherdave | January 22, 2007 8:11 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)

Teacherdave:

I'm still at work, so the VCR (old skool!) is recording How I Met Your Mother. But at eight (CST), I'll be taping Heroes and watching 24 as it airs.

Like my dad says, "You watch Jack LIVE. You don't tape Jack--Jack tapes YOU." I'm still not sure what that means.

Posted on January 22, 2007 20:11

shooting inside the shoulde... (Below threshold)

11. Posted by jcrue | January 22, 2007 8:30 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)

jcrue:

shooting inside the shoulder inhibits the brachial nerve running down the arm that controls the trigger finger. hit that and no impulse to pull the trigger. Jack hit that nerve saving the terrorist, but believably hit an artery too. Curtis bleeds out.

Posted on January 22, 2007 20:30

Speaking of entertainment, ... (Below threshold)

12. Posted by Jo | January 22, 2007 8:31 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)

Jo:

Speaking of entertainment, I was just reading on Drudge about the beastility movie premiering at Sundance, and some Broadway show featuring masterbation to music.

Ain't liberalism grand?

Posted on January 22, 2007 20:31

Thank God for TiVo! I can w... (Below threshold)

13. Posted by kimsch | January 22, 2007 8:33 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)

kimsch:

Thank God for TiVo! I can watch Heroes and 24! Heroes is usually repeated on Fridays at 7 Eastern on the SciFi channel by the way.

Posted on January 22, 2007 20:33

Rory,That's not fu... (Below threshold)

14. Posted by Lorie Byrd | January 22, 2007 8:42 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)

Lorie Byrd:

Rory,

That's not funny. :-) If you are right then at least we get an 11 episode break.

Audrey actually redeemed herself somewhat last season at the very end. The lovey dovey stuff still annoys me though. Heck, it is only 24 hours. Can't they knock it off for that long?

Posted on January 22, 2007 20:42

Lorie-OK so it's n... (Below threshold)

15. Posted by Rory | January 22, 2007 9:00 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)

OK so it's not an anti-Audrey thang it's an anti-mush thing...

Gad I missed a lot of last season but I thought your comment about Jack's first word being "Audrey" was funny.

Well since I am on the Pacific time zone I have to go before someone blows the plot line!

Posted on January 22, 2007 21:00

I went through an anti-Audr... (Below threshold)

16. Posted by Lorie Byrd | January 22, 2007 9:14 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)

I went through an anti-Audrey stage, but she did a few things at the end of last season that made her somewhat more tolerable.

Wow, helicopter hanging off the side of the roof is a first.

Posted on January 22, 2007 21:14

The Palmer chick is really ... (Below threshold)

17. Posted by Lorie Byrd | January 22, 2007 9:29 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)

The Palmer chick is really clueless, isn't she?

Posted on January 22, 2007 21:29

Oh. My. F-in. God!... (Below threshold)

18. Posted by LissaKay | January 22, 2007 9:32 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)

LissaKay:

Oh. My. F-in. God!

Posted on January 22, 2007 21:32

What the...the "shadow" guy... (Below threshold)

19. Posted by Steve of Norway | January 22, 2007 9:32 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)

Steve of Norway:

What the...the "shadow" guy (or the dude who had his head splattered in Robocop from last season is Jack's brother??

Jack has a father and a bro... (Below threshold)

20. Posted by pjaykc | January 22, 2007 9:33 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)

pjaykc:

Jack has a father and a brother?

Posted on January 22, 2007 21:33

He is Jack's broth... (Below threshold)

21. Posted by Kim Priestap | January 22, 2007 9:33 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)

Kim Priestap:

He is Jack's brother?

Ms. Palmer's probably missi... (Below threshold)

22. Posted by Joanne | January 22, 2007 9:33 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)

Joanne:

Ms. Palmer's probably missing a Code Pink rally or something.

and his brother is the one ... (Below threshold)

23. Posted by pjaykc | January 22, 2007 9:34 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)

and his brother is the one responsible for turning him over to the Chinese?

Posted on January 22, 2007 21:34

Get the F*** outta here! O... (Below threshold)

24. Posted by papalovesmambo | January 22, 2007 9:35 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)

papalovesmambo:

Get the F*** outta here! Ok, that was rather unexpected!

Posted on January 22, 2007 21:35

Bro was behind all the evil... (Below threshold)

25. Posted by LissaKay | January 22, 2007 9:36 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)

Bro was behind all the evil doins of last season ... oh my f'in god!

This is gonna get ... interesting!

Posted on January 22, 2007 21:36

That was a total shock!... (Below threshold)

26. Posted by Kim Priestap | January 22, 2007 9:36 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)

That was a total shock!

I don't think Jack trusts h... (Below threshold)

27. Posted by pjaykc | January 22, 2007 9:37 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)

I don't think Jack trusts his brother.

Posted on January 22, 2007 21:37

People can dismiss the time... (Below threshold)

28. Posted by Steve of Norway | January 22, 2007 9:38 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)

People can dismiss the timeline quirkiness, but it just keeps you going with all the twists and turns...DAMN

Posted on January 22, 2007 21:38

Jack is going to have to ki... (Below threshold)

29. Posted by Lorie Byrd | January 22, 2007 9:38 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)

Jack is going to have to kill his rotten evil brother.

Jack knows his brother is e... (Below threshold)

30. Posted by Kim Priestap | January 22, 2007 9:39 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)

Jack knows his brother is evil.

Posted on January 22, 2007 21:39

Politics of fear???? What'... (Below threshold)

31. Posted by pjaykc | January 22, 2007 9:40 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)

Politics of fear???? What's to be afraid of?

Posted on January 22, 2007 21:40

Eew. That gorgeous woman c... (Below threshold)

32. Posted by Lorie Byrd | January 22, 2007 9:41 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)

Eew. That gorgeous woman chose the mean ER doctor over Jack Bauer? Jack saves the world in 24 hours -- totally believable compared to any woman choosing that guy over Jack Bauer. Maybe Jack dumped her, though. But still...

Posted on January 22, 2007 21:41

Politics of fear? It's a n... (Below threshold)

33. Posted by Kim Priestap | January 22, 2007 9:42 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)

Politics of fear? It's a nuclear weapon!!

Posted on January 22, 2007 21:42

I think that Carmen Electra... (Below threshold)

34. Posted by Lorie Byrd | January 22, 2007 9:43 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)

I think that Carmen Electra Taco Bell commercial is funny.

Posted on January 22, 2007 21:43

woody, don't knock "How I m... (Below threshold)

35. Posted by bryanD | January 22, 2007 9:49 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)

bryanD:

woody, don't knock "How I met Your Mother"! True, the show sucks, but ....Alyson Hannigan!!

Posted on January 22, 2007 21:49

I loved hearing the Preside... (Below threshold)

36. Posted by Lorie Byrd | January 22, 2007 9:50 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)

I loved hearing the President's sister told off.

Posted on January 22, 2007 21:50

I was right. Jack knows his... (Below threshold)

37. Posted by Kim Priestap | January 22, 2007 9:51 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)

I was right. Jack knows his brother is evil.

Posted on January 22, 2007 21:51

hmmmm--another subplot--wha... (Below threshold)

38. Posted by pjaykc | January 22, 2007 9:52 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)

hmmmm--another subplot--what if this kid is really Jack's son?

Posted on January 22, 2007 21:52

I wonder if Josh is really ... (Below threshold)

39. Posted by Lorie Byrd | January 22, 2007 9:52 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)

I wonder if Josh is really Jack's son!

I want to know the history ... (Below threshold)

40. Posted by Kim Priestap | January 22, 2007 9:52 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)

I want to know the history of Jack and his sister-in-law.

Wow, pjaykc. We are defini... (Below threshold)

41. Posted by Lorie Byrd | January 22, 2007 9:53 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)

Wow, pjaykc. We are definitely on the same wavelength. Hopefully the kid is not as ditzy as Jack's daughter.

Posted on January 22, 2007 21:53

Lorie, good catch on Josh p... (Below threshold)

42. Posted by Kim Priestap | January 22, 2007 9:53 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)

Lorie, good catch on Josh possibly being Jack's son. I was wondering why Jack looked at Josh the way he did.

looks like we're all on the... (Below threshold)

43. Posted by pjaykc | January 22, 2007 9:53 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)

looks like we're all on the same wavelength on this one!

Yes! Jack is going to show... (Below threshold)

44. Posted by Lorie Byrd | January 22, 2007 9:54 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)

Yes! Jack is going to show the brother what he learned in China.

Posted on January 22, 2007 21:54

I'm reading Dave Barry's "2... (Below threshold)

45. Posted by pjaykc | January 22, 2007 9:55 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)

I'm reading Dave Barry's "24" blog, also, and he had the same question about Josh.

Posted on January 22, 2007 21:55

Excellent, Jack. Rip Gray a... (Below threshold)

46. Posted by Kim Priestap | January 22, 2007 9:55 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)

Excellent, Jack. Rip Gray a new one!

Boy, that presidential spee... (Below threshold)

47. Posted by pjaykc | January 22, 2007 9:57 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)

Boy, that presidential speech sure would give me reassurance! (not!)

Posted on January 22, 2007 21:57

This president is simply no... (Below threshold)

48. Posted by Kim Priestap | January 22, 2007 9:57 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)

This president is simply not believable to me. He's too young. He's not pissed off enough!

God I hate the pre... (Below threshold)

49. Posted by Greg Tinti | January 22, 2007 9:58 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)

Greg Tinti:

God I hate the president's sisters.

Posted on January 22, 2007 21:58

sister, sorry.... (Below threshold)

50. Posted by Greg Tinti | January 22, 2007 9:58 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)

sister, sorry.

Jeebus, crazy loon James Cr... (Below threshold)

51. Posted by Steve of Norway | January 22, 2007 10:01 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)

Jeebus, crazy loon James Cromwell is Jack's dad...

Posted on January 22, 2007 22:01

I was just getting ready to... (Below threshold)

52. Posted by Lorie Byrd | January 22, 2007 10:02 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)

I was just getting ready to go see if Dave Barry said anything about Josh. Thanks.

Jack is going to make his brother cry like a little girl.

Was that the farmer from Babe playing Jack's dad?

I sure hope Bush's speech tomorrow night is better than that one President Palmer gave.

Posted on January 22, 2007 22:02

Argghh! It had to end ther... (Below threshold)

53. Posted by Kim Priestap | January 22, 2007 10:03 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)

Argghh! It had to end there!? Ugh. I can't wait for another week.

Posted on January 22, 2007 22:03

Could it just be a coincide... (Below threshold)

54. Posted by LissaKay | January 22, 2007 10:05 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)

Could it just be a coincidence in casting the actors, or is Josh a ringer for Kim?

Posted on January 22, 2007 22:05

Agreed, I hate Pres' sister... (Below threshold)

55. Posted by Mitchell | January 22, 2007 10:24 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)

Agreed, I hate Pres' sister, and the new Pres.

Only one Palmer was worth a damn. The other two aren't believable (or just not very good actors for the particular parts they play).

I do like the plot turns this episode. Back to feeling like I need to see what happens next week, badly.

Posted on January 22, 2007 22:24

The rest of the President P... (Below threshold)

56. Posted by Greg Tinti | January 22, 2007 10:30 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)

The rest of the President Palmer's speech to the nation...

"My fellow Americans, America was hit by a nuclear weapon. But, as you know, this now a fact. The question remains, what do we as country, as a people, do about it. So let's talk. Let's chat. Let's start a dialogue about your ideas and mine!''

Posted on January 22, 2007 22:30

Jack's sister in law is the... (Below threshold)

57. Posted by kimsch | January 22, 2007 10:32 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)

Jack's sister in law is the wife in the wheelchair on Heroes. Her husband is running for congress and she's in a wheelchair from a car accident where her husband flew away but she got crushed...

Posted on January 22, 2007 22:32

Some, but not too many <a h... (Below threshold)

58. Posted by stevesturm | January 22, 2007 11:03 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)

stevesturm:

Some, but not too many 24isms this week.

For example, how did CTU know the engineer died in the explosion, especially in light of their not knowing if Fayed was killed or not? In fact, how did CTU even know the engineer was there, as CTU showed up in response to Skyhighkid giving them the address where his dad went and not because they knew the engineer, Fayed or the bombs were there?

And why did Fayed take off with the other four 'visitors'? He didn't know a raid was in the works, as he would have taken the engineer and the all-important device with him. And if he was running an errand, why take the other four with him? Why not leave them with the engineer for preprogramming?

Posted on January 22, 2007 23:03

Speaking of Heroes, did you... (Below threshold)

59. Posted by Jo | January 22, 2007 11:25 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)

Speaking of Heroes, did you know that the guy who plays the politician (Adrian Pasdar) is the real life husband of that idiot Dixie Chick Natalie Maines? How did that moron score such a hot guy? Mind boggling.

Okay sorry to interrupt. Can you tell I don't watch 24? lol.

Posted on January 22, 2007 23:25

P.S. James Cromwell is a li... (Below threshold)

60. Posted by Jo | January 22, 2007 11:27 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)

P.S. James Cromwell is a liberal lefty loon in real life. Ugh.

Fun facts. Fun facts.

Posted on January 22, 2007 23:27

Best line of the night by J... (Below threshold)

61. Posted by Beth | January 22, 2007 11:55 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)

Beth:

Best line of the night by Jack's brother..."Jack, you never just walk into a room and get along, do you?". Does that sum up Jack's life or what?

Posted on January 22, 2007 23:55

I think it is obvious that ... (Below threshold)

62. Posted by wickedpinto | January 23, 2007 12:38 AM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)

wickedpinto:

I think it is obvious that jacks "nephew" is actually his son. The first discussion was about jack banging his sister in law, and then in comes a kid who is CLEARLY more than 9 years old (last time jack talked to his father) and who has the same haircut keifer had in "lost boys."

However, that conflicts with the previously pristine marriage jack had prior to nina's interferrence that occured in the first season, and the fact that jack had been married long enough to have a daughter kim's age.

But yeah, it's clearly jacks kid in my bean.

Also, If jack has to kill his father? I SO WISH IT WAS ACTUALLY HIS FATHER! I can totaly buy Donald as a traitor.

Posted on January 23, 2007 00:38

Who is the chick that plays... (Below threshold)

63. Posted by wickedpinto | January 23, 2007 12:45 AM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)

Who is the chick that plays the sister in law? I recognize her, but I don't remember her looking so hot.

The guy who plays the chief of staff had my favorite line "Admiral! the president is talking." ABoUT time there was a SMALL bit of reality involved, though it's a small one. Also he was the guy from "dragon slayer" one of my favorite bad fantasy movies. (also the sister in law looks like the girl who acted like a boy in that movie now that I think of it)

And the guy who plays the brother is prolly better known as the jerky surgeon who did surgery on his own dog in the OR during the TV series "ER."

Theres a lot of familiar faces, like I can't remember where I recognize the sister of the president from. I think she was Doughboys girlfriend in "boys in the hood" also I think she was the crazy neighbor from "Boomerang" but I can't pinpoint it.

Posted on January 23, 2007 00:45

I remember Jack's brother a... (Below threshold)

64. Posted by Jake Shaw | January 23, 2007 2:06 AM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)

Jake Shaw:

I remember Jack's brother as "The Creeper" on Hill Street Blues......about the time he also was a deputy gobbled up in the remake of the "Blob". Why is this information stuck in the rom in my head, but I forgot to get my wife flowers like I promised earlier today?

Posted on January 23, 2007 02:06

The one thing I noticed was... (Below threshold)

65. Posted by retired military | January 23, 2007 7:30 AM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)

retired military:

The one thing I noticed was the fact that cell phones, cars, etc still worked after the nuke. The electromagnetic pulse would have had an effect on electrial objects for at least a few miles from the blast even if the nuke is a small one. I freely admit I dont know what the radius of the EMP would be from a 1KT nuke though.

Posted on January 23, 2007 07:30

A good episode, that seemed... (Below threshold)

66. Posted by jbwbubba | January 23, 2007 11:58 AM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)

jbwbubba:

A good episode, that seemed to only last 30mins.
So Jack's Dad is also the creator of Warp Drive from Star Trek: First Contact. Jaw dropping when we found that last year's mysterious baddie is Jack's brother. Heck, not only did he turn Jack into the Chinese last year, but he was apparently behind the plot to frame Jack for Palmer's assassination. Figure Jack's dad will be a good guy and help Jack save the day, why: because it appeared Jack's brother had the Dad's house under surveillance. No reason for it, if they were on the same side; also him disappearing with no phone, etc. seems like he didn't want to be found.
Curious, after a nuke blast the highways were flooded with people trying to get out yet Jack, Jack's brother, the slimey tech for hire middle man, and the terrorists didn't seem to have a problem getting around town in cars.

Posted on January 23, 2007 11:58

Jack's sister in law is pla... (Below threshold)

67. Posted by kimsch | January 23, 2007 12:04 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)

Jack's sister in law is played by Rena Sofer, she was on Loving as Rocky and General Hospital as Lois, married to Ned Ashton for years and a few other things. Here is her IMDb page. She's been on Just Shoot Me, Ed, Melrose Place, and more.

Posted on January 23, 2007 12:04

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