No, I'm not kidding:
Islam Online says this about whether an Islamic man can beat his wife:
In fact, Allah Almighty has allowed beating wives as the last resort for husbands, a man should warn his wife first, and if she is still stubborn, then he may stop sleeping with her, and then if she is still disobeying him then he might beat her (slightly).
Hat tip: John Hawkins
Update: Video cameras were secretly placed into what have been described as moderate British mosques and found that they are preaching a lot of very radical Islam:
An undercover investigation has revealed disturbing evidence of Islamic extremism at a number of Britain's leading mosques and Muslim institutions, including an organisation praised by the Prime Minister.
Secret video footage reveals Muslim preachers exhorting followers to prepare for jihad, to hit girls for not wearing the hijab, and to create a 'state within a state'. Many of the preachers are linked to the Wahhabi strain of Islam practised in Saudi Arabia, which funds a number of Britain's leading Islamic institutions.A forthcoming Channel 4 Dispatches programme paints an alarming picture of how preachers in some of Britain's most moderate mosques are urging followers to reject British laws in favour of those of Islam. Leaders of the mosques have expressed concern at the preachers' activities, saying they were unaware such views were being disseminated.
At the Sparkbrook mosque, run by UK Islamic Mission (UKIM), an organisation that maintains 45 mosques in Britain and which Tony Blair has said 'is extremely valued by the government for its multi-faith and multicultural activities', a preacher is captured on film praising the Taliban. In response to the news that a British Muslim solider was killed fighting the Taliban, the speaker declares: 'The hero of Islam is the one who separated his head from his shoulders.'
Another speaker says Muslims cannot accept the rule of non-Muslims. 'You cannot accept the rule of the kaffir [non-Muslim],' a preacher, Dr Ijaz Mian, tells a meeting held within the mosque. 'We have to rule ourselves and we have to rule the others.'
The 12-month investigation also recorded a deputy headmaster of an Islamic high school in Birmingham telling a conference at the Sparkbrook mosque that he disagrees with using the word democracy. 'They should call it ... kuffrocracy, that's their plan. It's the hidden cancerous aim of these people.' The Darul Uloom school said it no longer employed the teacher and that one of the reasons he resigned 'was the incompatibility of many of his opinions with the policies of the school'.
If self proclaimed moderate mosques preach extremism when they think no one is watching, is there really such a thing as moderate Islam?
Hat tip: Hot Air



Comments (19)
So Allah thinks its OK to b... (Below threshold)1. Posted by Gianni | January 8, 2007 9:58 AM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
So Allah thinks its OK to beat women??
1. Posted by Gianni | January 8, 2007 9:58 AM |
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2. Posted by aRepukelican | January 8, 2007 10:13 AM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Kim
Of course one's outrage over such ante-diluvian Islamic mentality from some sheik ought to be tempered, just a little, by the thought that we haven't the foggiest notion as to whether the sub-titles are being accurately and honestly translated, do we?
Apart from that, attitudes as expressed by the Sheik are hardly unique in today's world, Female castration (mutilation) is still practiced in many tribal areas of Africa, for example.
Indeed, for Jurassic-aged philosophy, the Sheik's cautions on the subject are almost progressive when it comes to the issue of how to beat one's wife.
2. Posted by aRepukelican | January 8, 2007 10:13 AM |
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3. Posted by Gianni | January 8, 2007 10:25 AM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Ever notice moonbats will accept a translation if it furthers their agenda, they question all the rest.
3. Posted by Gianni | January 8, 2007 10:25 AM |
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4. Posted by SCSIwuzzy | January 8, 2007 10:25 AM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Puke,
Female castration's primary practicioners in Africa (and elsewhere) these days are? Muslims. So his views are not unique among muslims, but not all that common outside of Islam these days.
You sound like someone praising the new model gas chamber at Dachau, beacuse compare to previous methods of mass execution, it was so progressive and humane.
Wrong is wrong, junior. Moral relativism as a means to excuse it does not change that fact.
4. Posted by SCSIwuzzy | January 8, 2007 10:25 AM |
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5. Posted by jhow66 | January 8, 2007 10:41 AM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Wouldn't you just love to have one swing of a ballbat at that raghead pig?
5. Posted by jhow66 | January 8, 2007 10:41 AM |
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6. Posted by J.R. | January 8, 2007 11:00 AM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
jhow,
As long as you don't bruise him or make him bleed it would be OK with Allah.
6. Posted by J.R. | January 8, 2007 11:00 AM |
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7. Posted by VagaBond | January 8, 2007 11:02 AM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
I found it is more effective to restrict the woman's TV access to soap operas & Lifetime and cut out chocolates.
7. Posted by VagaBond | January 8, 2007 11:02 AM |
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8. Posted by Old Coot | January 8, 2007 11:02 AM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Has anyone shown this to Nancy...The Most Powerful Woman in the World? She's gonna be pissed.
8. Posted by Old Coot | January 8, 2007 11:02 AM |
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9. Posted by bobdog | January 8, 2007 11:13 AM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Uh, I think you guys mean female circumcision, don't you?
aRepukelican, you're just precious...
Old Coot, has Pelosi formed the League of Justice yet? I like the idea. We won't have to send troops any more, which always gens up so much...disapproval from the left. Just send Wonder Woman in her invisible airplane with her Golden Bullwhip. Imagine...an entire country reduced to projectile vomiting in an instant...
9. Posted by bobdog | January 8, 2007 11:13 AM |
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10. Posted by aRepukelican | January 8, 2007 11:25 AM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Hey Squozoid
As usual, you react to something and manage to turn it around into something else.
Apart from my comment in regard to the translation, you have no idea about the origin of Female circumsion other than you think that it emanates from Islam, which suits your Islamobigotry.
"FGM: A cultural not a religious practice:
This mutilating operation is often associated mainly with the religion of Islam. This is incorrect. FGM is primarily a social practice, not a religious one. Female genital mutilation predates Islam. It originated in Africa and remains today a mainly African cultural practice"
My other comments were meant as tongue-in-cheek.
10. Posted by aRepukelican | January 8, 2007 11:25 AM |
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11. Posted by daddybear | January 8, 2007 11:42 AM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Now if these souless islam's only fault is they beat a wife or two then it would be alright. But all of you ultra conservatives need a dose of reality as to what id happening to our folks over there while trying to bring these animals into a democractic way of life so click here to see what we're trying to liberate! http://www.strangeland.com/11484 Now stop belly aching and get your priorieties straight!!!!!
11. Posted by daddybear | January 8, 2007 11:42 AM |
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12. Posted by Jo | January 8, 2007 11:50 AM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
And these are the people who the left defends continuously. Let me figure out how the United States and Bush are responsible for this kind of practice.
12. Posted by Jo | January 8, 2007 11:50 AM |
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13. Posted by Old Coot | January 8, 2007 11:50 AM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
bobdog: Mmm...golden whips. But in the Superhero lexicon, I think of her more like a geriatric Scarlet Witch, driven mad by massive doses of Botox.
But whatever; I'm certain that within the designated first 100 hours, she will resolve all world problems and vanquish the evil Chimpy McBushitler to the nether world.
13. Posted by Old Coot | January 8, 2007 11:50 AM |
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14. Posted by bobdog | January 8, 2007 12:16 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Hey Squozoid.
Since you're in such a mood for rigorous academic research, look up castration and circumcision. Get it yet?
As usual, you react to something and manage to turn it around into something else.
Just precious...
Old Coot, maybe you've got the better superhero, but the evil Chimpy McBushitler has super powers, too.
14. Posted by bobdog | January 8, 2007 12:16 PM |
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15. Posted by SCSIwuzzy | January 8, 2007 12:41 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Nope, Sorry Puke, read again.
I never said a word about the origin of the practice, only about who the major fans are today.
I believe you tried to say it wasn't isolated to Islam by pointing out Africa... where it is largely a practice performed by Muslims.
I don't think it is spelled out in the Koran or any other scripture, BUT, it is more common in Muslim cultures than elsewhere TODAY.
Bobdog,
Tomayto tomahto. The practice at hand is removing the clitoris, deriving the recipient of sexual pleasure. Much more akin to castration than circumcision in it's effect on the victim (where castration is properly the removal of the gonads). If you do a little research yourself (don't know where you get the idea that I am calling for rigourous resarch until now) you'll find the terms are nearly inter-changeable. The big difference is that circumscision also covers mutilation of the labia and infibulation and castration does cover legitimate medical removal of the ovaries.
Those that wish to minimize the nastiness of the procedures and rituals that go with/cause them like to call it circumcision, to make it sound equivalent to removing a man's foreskin. It's opponents use castration, to make it clear that it is more aking to punishment, the typical use of castration in human males.
15. Posted by SCSIwuzzy | January 8, 2007 12:41 PM |
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16. Posted by Mitchell | January 8, 2007 12:57 PM | Score: -1 (1 votes cast)
I routinely beat my wives, too, just like Mohammed.
So, I got that going for me.
16. Posted by Mitchell | January 8, 2007 12:57 PM |
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17. Posted by SCSIwuzzy | January 8, 2007 1:31 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
bobdog: What are chimpy's powers? I am assuming a Bruce Banner/Hulk like change from idiot savant to Machiavellian evil genius has to be one of them. How do they compare to those bestowed on John F'n Kerry by his magic hat?
What is his weakness (Chimpy)? I am guessing vodka and/or gin.
Which makes me wonder who has it harder, him or AlGore, who faces a kryptonite reaction to the internal combustion engine?
17. Posted by SCSIwuzzy | January 8, 2007 1:31 PM |
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Posted on January 8, 2007 13:31
18. Posted by bobdog | January 8, 2007 1:44 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
In his everyday role, he's a mild-mannered public servant with his own Legions, including the power to destroy the world. That's when he's in his disguise. You don't want to run into him when he sheds his coat and tie in a phone booth and turns into Chuck Norris.
As a bona fide super hero, he neither smokes nor drinks. He doesn't need to. Other people drink to stop worrying about the Chuck Norris part. It doesn't help.
18. Posted by bobdog | January 8, 2007 1:44 PM |
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Posted on January 8, 2007 13:44
19. Posted by LenS | January 8, 2007 4:42 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
"is there really such a thing as moderate Islam?"
No. There has never been such a thing. Anyone who claims to be a moderate Muslim is either a liar attempting to lull the non-believers or an agnostic pretending to be a Muslim. And anyone in the latter group will, if not safely hidden in the West, eventually be killed by other Muslims.
19. Posted by LenS | January 8, 2007 4:42 PM |
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