Various dynasties of pharaohs ruled Ancient Egypt for close to three thousand years. I will be very happy indeed if the United States lasts that long.

I'm also taking bets as to which Wizbang troll will be the first to agree with Mahmoud Ahmadinejad.

The end of 2006 would also be a fitting end to Ahmawackjob. One can hope.

I sure get tired of hearing from this clown.

Great. Yesterday a holocaust denier, today a theologian. Is there anything this guy can't do?

It appears that Ahmadinejad's 15 minutes in the spotlight may be coming to an end. The elections in Iran this last week signaled that his support is waning.

The U.S. 11/7 election signaled to the world that Bush's disastrous approach to policy making in the middle east is ending, and that may well have caused the turn against Ahmadinejad in Iran.

So, we see the US voters reign in Bush, and within a short time we see the Iranians starting to reign in Ahmadinejad -- the world is becoming a safer place already thanks to the Democrats winning the election.

interesting conjecture, lee. however, nearly all of the polls that i have seen indicate that the republicans lost on 3 main issues:

1) corruption
2) failure to reign in federal spending (closely related to 1)
3) Illegal immigration

I see it stated in the media and on democratic/left leaning websites that the biggest reason that Republicans lost was because of the war. But I have not seen any in depth analysis to support this hypothosis. And no one who makes this claim mentions the fact that Lieberman won in CT, even tho he is most decidedly pro-war in an otherwise anti-war state.

Kim, You and Ahmad should get a room! But seriously: Give it up! Rapproachment with Iran will make the Iraqi (non-Persian) Shiites insecure enough to consolidate their OWN areas. Restore the Baathists in the Sunni enclave and leave the Kurds be. Next, go to Turkey and offer most-favored trading status in return for a Turko-Kurdish friendship agreement AND an Afghani share of the worldwide medical opium concession. If they want NATO membership, give it. The point: Turkey and Pakistan are the wild cards, but Turkey doesn't wish to be. If its opium monopoly can be opened to Afghanistan's economic benefit, the Taliban will cease being employers and will become as welcome as snakes. Weak Taliban= a stable, still friendly, nuclear Pakistan.

Lee,

Bush policy "ending"=Iran turning against Iamawhackjob? (This one actually made me laugh out loud.) How exactly is that happening?
And the world is, all of a sudden, a safer place with Dems in charge? You'll have to do more than speak in more than cheap platitdues and sweeping idealistic generalizations in order for us to buy that can 'o crappola...

Lee as well, I don't know if you're right in your prognosis? Bush is still the ultimate decider and conflict between Iran and the USA could be a mutual boon to both Ahmadinejad and Bush with their current declining approval rates. Why else the heavy handed Elliot Abrams/ White House censorship of Flynt Leverett former CIA officer who advocates talks with Iran.

Lil' George, what we gonna do with you?

Lee, you ignorant twit. Repubs lost because conservatives did not vote. They were fed up with RINOs and a-holes with no backbone, so they stayed home in droves. That combined with Democrats putting up fake conservative candidates allowed them to win back control by a pubic hair.

Don't think for a second that it was about the war or that Dems have some kind of mandate.

Rest assured, libs will be kicked out of power once again when conservatives with balls and backbone run for office. The whining of libs like you will be back to normal with a nasal drip.

He stressed on "regime"?
Probablly he means, their governments are going to be changed. As in Bush, Tony and the entire politcal set up of Israel.

I think several things are mis-understood. I will clarify them in the book I am writing now. He is a very wrongly understood person

He (Ahmadinijad) is a very wrongly understood person...

Isreal should be "wiped off the map".

"They have created a myth in the name of the Holocaust and consider it above God, religion and the prophets,"...

Yes, poor misunderstood, Mahmmoud. Nobody understands your average theocratic, genocidial, Holocaust-denying maniac these days.

Unfortunately, the Bush Administration sees the word "President" and thinks "King".

The President of Iran is more a figurehead than anything else. The mullahs rule Iran.

Quit blowing up everything this guy says as gospel. Like our President, he's a crackpot who thinks he knows what's going on.
He doesn't.

Nuff said.

Notice how Lee turned the topic to Bush again?

Notice how Bobdog turned the topic to Lee again?

Look kids, the Bush era is ending and we are already seeing positive results, six weeks after the election. Ahmadinijad's popularity is already declining.

I know peace is the last thing you conservatives want, but you may have to get used to the idea....

You know MU, many of Hitler's fans said he was misunderstood as well.
Now, lest I be accused of violating Godwin's law... notice how similar the rhetoric of Hitler and his followers mirrors that of Ahmadinijad.

I wonder if Ahmadinijad also has a possible Jewish grandparent he's overcompensating for?

The U.S. 11/7 election signaled to the world that Bush's disastrous approach to policy making in the middle east is ending, and that may well have caused the turn against Ahmadinejad in Iran.

So, we see the US voters reign in Bush, and within a short time we see the Iranians starting to reign in Ahmadinejad -- the world is becoming a safer place already thanks to the Democrats winning the election.
:: by Lee on December 20, 2006 3:19 PM ::

The fact that Ahmadinejihadist hardly ever uttered any of the his infamous fiery rhetoric during his "campaign" for president has nothing to do with it.

At least for Lee. The rest of us more rational people, not so much.

"Look kids, the Bush era is ending and we are already seeing positive results, six weeks after the election. Ahmadinijad's popularity is already declining."

Post hoc ergo propter hoc.

I used to think you were quite bright, Lee.

So, we see the US voters reign in Bush, and within a short time we see the Iranians starting to reign in Ahmadinejad -- the world is becoming a safer place already thanks to the Democrats winning the election.

So, I had a nice turkey sandwich for lunch today...keeps the trolls at bay.

"Actual"- "pucker puss" (lee lee) looks bright but that is only because of the light that reflects off the turds he polishes.

Lee, sorry but the idea that who controls Congress had any influence whatsoever on how Iranians voted is just daft. Ahmadinejad was elected because many people thought he might deal with corruption. Instead he did nothing but cause trouble. Most Iranians still want corruption to be dealt with and they don't want war. So guess what? They appear to have voted against Ahmadinejad's allies.

Peter F, when are you ever going to learn how to spell Israel? Everyone makes typos, but you're consistent on this one. Are you fighting a war in Iarq? Do you live in Amercia? Do these spellings annoy you?

So, I had a nice turkey sandwich for lunch today...keeps the trolls at bay.

You wish.

Don't think for a second that it was about the war or that Dems have some kind of mandate.

Good. I like this. Tell all your friends -- in fact, let it begin here, with you guys: either the Republican party runs on the war in 2008 -- the desirability of starting, as well as continuing it -- or you're full of shit, here and now and forever.

Because if the Republican party does not run on the war, that would prove that the war has been and will be unpopular in this country, that Republican pollsters are smarter than the average Wizbang armchair quarterback, or at least they're smart enough to see that it affected the election in a big way.

Or was all that noise about the media undermining the war effort by depressing the folks at home just more whining, more neocon posturing, just a bunch of know-nothing dittoheads trying to make the free press curl up and die? Do you people mean anything you say? Get your little story straight, people.

As far as Ahmadinejad goes, we make him or break him right here. He is not a good administrator or ruler in any sense. What has he got? Us. We take the hard line with him all the way and people in the Middle East will love him, because he'll just puff out his fluffy little chest and make manly noises back. I'd love to hear you deny that; nobody would give you a second hearing.

This is a fact: the only time Ahmadinejad looks good to anybody in his country is when he shifts Iran's attentions from his actions to ours. He could not survive with out Dubya.

I'm all for tossing trolls in the fjords, Steve. Preferably from the Preikestolen. They like preaching from the pulpit, I wonder how they'll Screech as they fly off the Pulpit Rock.

[for all those without a sense of humor, I am not advocating real violence]

Now that the thread as been totally hijacked and diverted:

I suspect that what the Republican Party will run on in 2008 is contrasting the 2006-2008 legislative efforts and results vs previous years (not that I think that's anything to brag about, its just what I think they'll do). There's already plenty of fodder for this effort.

Meanwhile, as Troll Tossing becomes an Olympic event, expect a strong showing from those most experienced at keep them at bay (or in fjords). Maybe we could toss an ex-President of Iran or two as well?

Well, well, if it isn't our old pal "Muslim Unity" back here once again, tanned, rested, and spinning furiously in support of whatever egregrious evil is currently erupting from the Islamic world like a pimple on a pig's ass. No matter if it's some Islamic thug with a death wish threatening to wipe out Israel or a Moslem terrorist blowing up civilians, or some Islamic "court" of "law" condeming a rape victim for adultery, they can always count on this "MU" moron to run interference for them and spew propaganda at the rest of us as to why evil murderers are actually really wonderful guys and black is white, down is up, and war is peace.

Why are you back here after so long, MU, did your copy of the Protocols of the Elders of Zion finally fall apart after constant use?

(*spit*)

Let's try this again, this time with the correct blockquotes:

Well, well, if it isn't our old pal "Muslim Unity" back here once again, tanned, rested, and spinning furiously in support of whatever egregrious evil is currently erupting from the Islamic world like a pimple on a pig's ass. No matter if it's some Islamic thug with a death wish threatening to wipe out Israel or a Moslem terrorist blowing up civilians, or some Islamic "court" of "law" condeming a rape victim for adultery, they can always count on this "MU" moron to run interference for them and spew propaganda at the rest of us as to why evil murderers are actually really wonderful guys and black is white, down is up, and war is peace.

Why are you back here after so long, MU, did your copy of the Protocols of the Elders of Zion finally fall apart after constant use?

(*spit*)
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Marc is absolutely right. Ahmadinejad has proven to be an abject failure in improving the economy, creating jobs and reigning in corruption. All things he promised to do. Now the mullahs are unhappy too because Ahmadinejad imediately forgot his promises and began speaking their minds out loud. They prefer that their plans and ideals remain under the radar. Instead they got a guy sitting in a booster chair displaying all their cards.

Peter F, when are you ever going to learn how to spell Israel? Everyone makes typos, but you're consistent on this one. Are you fighting a war in Iarq? Do you live in Amercia? Do these spellings annoy you?

Cat, look down at your keyboard. Where are the A an E located? Pretty close together, right? Hmm, yup, no doubt it. So that must account for my consistently poor typing. Do I care? Sure. Do I care enough that I'll eb bothered by it the rest of the day? Nah. Is it petty and rude to point it out? No doubt.

Wizbang comment protocol is to ignore mis-spellings and typos - since we all do it, and who really cares anyway.

Lee, we agree on something. Finally! LOL (I thought a snarky reply was in order...)

"Great. Yesterday a holocaust denier, today a theologian. Is there anything this guy can't do?"

I have noticed that he can't say the word Israel. He always refers to them as anything but the nation of Israel...

Also, he can't seem to form a thought that isn't in someway degrading to anyone who isn't him.

Sanity seems to be slightly out of reach as well.

Oh wait, that was a rhetorical question wasn't it?

(Lee, I meant a snarky reply to cat, not you.Sorry for the confusion.)

I bumped onto this site and was wondering what ignorance could do to humans.America is such a wonderful nation, Europe is so rich in culture,amazing history.Both have educated people...people who have been to school...read history.We dont have the excuse that underpriveleged illiterate children in so many countries have,Yet theres sucha huge control that media has over our common sense and the goverments have over the media in this century when, we have the history as reference and access to information is on our fingertips thanks to the internet,we are supposedly in the information age yet still so uninformed,we still believe whatever the media wants us to.Is it do difficult to understand that the government plays the same game,everywhere.To be a hero you need a villain,otherwise why would a hero be important.The American government is unfortunately being led by a man who may be a hero for some,but is detested the world over because of his selfish policies,and he is not even benefitting the American people either.He is behaving like a school bully who picks on weak kids and then gets a kick out of beating them up.
Is it fair to say that America is the preserver of peace? when it has attacked weak countries that never attacked it?
Is it proper to claim that the tragedy of 9/11 had anything to do with afghanistan? ( nothing absolutely nothing concrete has been proven till now),but the American government wants to justify it by saying that it was to capture the evil bin laden...then why wait for a month and allow him to escape easily,what was the objective?
Is it not the same Iraq which never attacked any American...EVER.....thats ruined today...thanks to America? Hunderds of thousands of precious innocent lives lost on both the sides,families wrecked,dreams shattered,lives changed mercilessly.When we see a movie based on the holocoust...we feel disgusted that such gruesome inhuman acts have happened and how the public could support a maniac like Hitler and feel that if we were there,we wouldve never voted for Hitler.
Is America not trying to pick on Iran again now?...the same policy they used with Iraq.Warnings being given...Americans being scared to believe that Iran is evil and is going to destroy the world and America has to save the world again.Isnt James Bond enough to entertain us without actually killing humans?
We are all after all humans and we all know that there are some traits found in animals of any species,like if you try to attack even a small bird's nest...the bird will try to defend it as much as it can,even though you are a hundered times it's size.The same goes for other countries - America is invading their homes - for no fault of theirs - then why should they not retaliate? and when they do...the American government labels them as maybe terrorists or factionalists or destroyers of peace,the media is ordered to hype it up and the public starts to hate them.I dont wish to say that terrorism is the right way to retaliate but then suppose your house is attacked?..would you not do anything in your powers to defend it? will you be considered wrong in doing so? you will...but only by the attackers because they dont want any obstruction.
Americans should realise that there is a world out there, with humans who share the same feelings that they share about their own families,they go thru the same emotions when something happens to their families,they too have dreams and ambitions for their children and they also have the same patriotism for their countries as Americans have for America,do you thnk they are wrong? because if they're are wrong then everyone is wrong and two wrongs can never make a right.
Remember the movie 'Home Alone'? the kid who is in his house alone and two burglers want to break in? He is small and weak in front of the attackers and cant fight them one on one and so he has to think up of different ways to defend himself and his house, and he does anything that he can to ward them off...anything!! Well thats pretty much the same thing happening everywhere.More so because,if you realise,when was the last time you saw a peaceful protest being taken seriously by a world leader and made him change his plans?
I hate Osama, I hated Saddam because they are misguided souls who can only bring destruction to humanity and misuse power just like Hitler did earlier.But I dont like Mr.Bush either because he is no better.The simlarities are many but he can hide under the roof of the white house wearing a suit and smiling to the cameras,pretending to be a hero.The ignorant will get fooled....the wise will judge him by the facts.Ignorance maybe bliss...but then ignorants are also considered to be fools.
I'am moslem and my wife is a devout christian,we love each other endlessly and respect each others beliefs,which are almost the same,save one or two changes,our two children can be what they like as long as they believe in one God and love him and fear him, but above all, i want them to be good human beings and treat everyone with compassion,respect and be clear between what is right and what is wrong.
That's my take on life!!!