Ed Morrisey sees Reagan's influence in this upcoming election, even with losses projected for the Gipper's GOP.
It would be the highest irony if the evidence of conservative evolution came on the occasion of a bruising midterm election, but two stories by the media today suggest that conservatives have changed the paradigm of politics over the last generation.A CNN poll indicates that a majority of Americans now believes that government tries to do too much, while The New York Times reports that Democrats have begun producing less liberal candidates in order to win seats in Congress. Both together show that the Reagan Revolution has continued to influence politics well past the end of his administration.



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I would like to see our Par... (Below threshold)1. Posted by Mitchell | November 2, 2006 8:22 AM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
I would like to see our Party going back to first principles, a la Reagan.
We've become almost as bad as the Dems. on big gov't. and spending. Having the right position on those issues will still resonate with voters.
Thank God for Ronald Reagan.
1. Posted by Mitchell | November 2, 2006 8:22 AM |
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2. Posted by nehemiah | November 2, 2006 8:41 AM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
God bless Ronald Reagan.
Anyone who dare oppose him for the next place on Mt. Rushmore should be shipped off immediately to get stuck in Iraq next to all those "poor academic performers".
2. Posted by nehemiah | November 2, 2006 8:41 AM |
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3. Posted by steak111111 | November 2, 2006 8:42 AM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
"the Reagan Revolution"
Best President the US ever had - with Lincoln a close 2nd - because Reagan beat the Soviets without the support of the world OR the liberals here....
It still boggles the mind how the liberals during Reagan OPPOSED the START talks and vitually EVERY thing he said and did....
....AND THE LIBS ARE STILL JUST AS AMAZINGLY STUPID TODAY!!
3. Posted by steak111111 | November 2, 2006 8:42 AM |
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4. Posted by Mitchell | November 2, 2006 8:47 AM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Steak: this is something the younger voters don't realize. If you examine the Lib. record during the Cold War, and their jihad against Reagan, you would never vote or them or trust them on any national defense issue.
Hannity, often hyperbolic, says they are consistently "on the wrong side of histor." I agree with him on that--absolutely.
4. Posted by Mitchell | November 2, 2006 8:47 AM |
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5. Posted by DaveD | November 2, 2006 8:48 AM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
http://mwhodges.home.att.net/1980-88.htm
5. Posted by DaveD | November 2, 2006 8:48 AM |
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6. Posted by steak111111 | November 2, 2006 9:00 AM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
"a 40-year Cold War - eliminated: Dramatically improved results were realized with regard to the humiliating hostage-taking and the dangerous cold war. America's defense - the #1 priority. Prior to the Reagan Era, America was the laughing stock of the world and at home we were embarrassed, as minor terrorists held citizens as hostages - - and we appeared timid and without bite to our bark. Reagan took firm action, ended those events, and gained the respect of citizens the world over. Prior to the Reagan Era, America had engaged in a 40-year cold war with Russia, that appeared to all to be getting colder and potentially more dangerous over time. Reagan fully engaged, upping military options and the PR of Star Wars, etc. - - supported England in the Falklands and placed the Soviet military in a 'we see every thing you are doing and have it fully covered', stopping cold the Soviet flanking movement from the South. The Reagan era fully engaged the Soviets on every front, "Evil Empire' plus Star Wars (birth of the space shuttle) threats. The Reagan era threatened Europe to not only leave its missiles alone, but it must take more Pershings, or face the Soviets alone and without America. This strategy of bite with bark undermined the creditability of internal Soviet military leaders, which allowed a Gorbechev to emerge with strength - - and, the Cold War was over - - except for the mopping up and demise of the former Soviet Union. The Reagan era leaders had to fight their battles on two fronts at once: the obvious one abroad, and the subversive one at home out to under-mine arrows in his quiver such as Star War games, central American threats, Russia's buildup of Iraq, etc. The Reagan Era caused a complete reversal of escalating terrorist and Soviet threats - - and the world breathed easier."
The only thing that i would add to this is that Reagan was DESPISED by the lilly-livered liberals....
6. Posted by steak111111 | November 2, 2006 9:00 AM |
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7. Posted by Lee | November 2, 2006 9:17 AM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
How great would it be to find another 'Dutch'?
Speaking of finds, has anyone seen any more info on the communications between Ted Kennedy and Moscow back in the 80s?
7. Posted by Lee | November 2, 2006 9:17 AM |
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8. Posted by BarneyG2000 | November 2, 2006 9:20 AM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
steak, wasn't it brilliant the way Reagan stood strong against the Rushskie over nukes in Cuba? Oh wait, that was JFK.
Speaking of Reagan, did you notice how Reagan's pro-contra policy ultimately failed? That is right, David Ortega and the Sandinista are back in power?
8. Posted by BarneyG2000 | November 2, 2006 9:20 AM |
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9. Posted by steak111111 | November 2, 2006 9:24 AM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
....and the liberals are still in denial.
9. Posted by steak111111 | November 2, 2006 9:24 AM |
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10. Posted by USMC Pilot | November 2, 2006 9:27 AM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
That is right, David Ortega and the Sandinista are back in power?
Posted by: BarneyG2000
Had a party; did ya?
10. Posted by USMC Pilot | November 2, 2006 9:27 AM |
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11. Posted by nehemiah | November 2, 2006 9:29 AM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Is there a way to keep Lee and nogo and such from defiling this thread. The lib numbnuts were so evil and stupid during President Reagan's tenure, it really is a shame that they who are co-beneficiaries of his incredible leadership are still allowed to make such communist asses of themselves.
11. Posted by nehemiah | November 2, 2006 9:29 AM |
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12. Posted by steak111111 | November 2, 2006 9:29 AM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
"has anyone seen any more info on the communications between Ted Kennedy and Moscow back in the 80s?"
No Lee, that was KKKlinton in '69 that betrayed his country and commited treason by aiding and abetting the enemy by speaking out against our country.
12. Posted by steak111111 | November 2, 2006 9:29 AM |
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13. Posted by USMC Pilot | November 2, 2006 9:32 AM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Frankly, I don't think, and never have, that the libs/Dems are unAmerican, or traitors, or any other such nonsense. It's just that they will do anything to regain power, and see trashing everything the Republicans do as a way to accomplish this. Regan had to live with it, and now Bush does. It's a shame, but that politics.
13. Posted by USMC Pilot | November 2, 2006 9:32 AM |
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14. Posted by LoveAmerica Immigrant | November 2, 2006 9:32 AM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Barney,
Speaking of Reagan, did you notice how Reagan's pro-contra policy ultimately failed? That is right, David Ortega and the Sandinista are back in power?
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This is another example of the lack of either education or intellectual honesty from the liberal left. Conveniently forget about the fall of the evil empire and hundreds of millions of people were free from the yoke of communism. Or the liberals are so dishonest that they couldn't face the facts that they supported the evil communists during the cold war and should have offered an apology at the very least?
BTW, thanks to people like Carter who went around the world embracing communists like Chavez and Ortega. Oh yes, the dems sent a congressional delegation down to support Ortega during the cold war.
Barney you can be proud that the Dems stood with the communists during the cold war.
14. Posted by LoveAmerica Immigrant | November 2, 2006 9:32 AM |
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15. Posted by LoveAmerica Immigrant | November 2, 2006 9:34 AM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
BTW, Kennedy and Carter were working with the Soviet Union to defeat Reagan. Looks like the Dems today are following in the same footsteps to defeat Bush by working in tandem with the terrorists.
What a despicable and corrupt liberal left movement. I don't know how any decent american can support them anymore.
15. Posted by LoveAmerica Immigrant | November 2, 2006 9:34 AM |
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16. Posted by USMC Pilot | November 2, 2006 9:37 AM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
The way the Democrats rewrite history, I'm surprised they haven't figured a way to take credit for the fall of the Soviet Union, in addition to the internet.
16. Posted by USMC Pilot | November 2, 2006 9:37 AM |
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17. Posted by BarneyG2000 | November 2, 2006 9:40 AM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
"Barney you can be proud that the Dems stood with the communists during the cold war."
Lovie, can you explain the total lack of a Latin America policy by this administration? One South and Central American country after another is turning leftest, Socialist or Communist. Bush has totally ignored this problem, and completely reversed the Reagan legacy.
If you love Reagan so much, how could you support Bush?
17. Posted by BarneyG2000 | November 2, 2006 9:40 AM |
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18. Posted by steak111111 | November 2, 2006 9:41 AM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
"I don't know how any decent american can support them anymore."
The liberal press has sadly brainwashed enough Americans that even this election may be close (however the polling is always slanded to the liberal side before they conveniently adjust reality before the election so they don't appear to be so pathetically inacurate)....
Eventually, as Americans become more educated they will see the true goal of the liberals running the Democrat party is merely to abolish our freedoms - either by higher taxes or by allowing another country (or the UN) to take us over....
18. Posted by steak111111 | November 2, 2006 9:41 AM |
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19. Posted by nehemiah | November 2, 2006 9:48 AM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
LoveAmericaImmigrant,
Good to see a fellow PoliPundit alumnus (though I'm not welcome there anymore -- don't know about you).
The way we should respond to our liberal enemies (who are America's enemies) when they criticize the war or the direction of the country etc. is not to say that they're wrong, but to say -- what do you care? If they do, it is only to bring us down. They are mine and America's enemies -- their criticism of the country is not with the intent to improve our country. I don't consider them Americans.
19. Posted by nehemiah | November 2, 2006 9:48 AM |
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20. Posted by USMC Pilot | November 2, 2006 9:49 AM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
BarneyG2000:
Just exactly what would you recommend we do in Latin America? I suppose we could always send in the troops and stop their elections. Those are free countries that can elect anyone they want to, and as long as they mind their own business and don't start sending suicide bombers here, I can't see where it's any of our business.
20. Posted by USMC Pilot | November 2, 2006 9:49 AM |
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21. Posted by JB | November 2, 2006 9:52 AM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Yeah, as if Barney would support a Latin American policy.
Why are we wasting our resources on Latin America instead of on fighting the terrorists?
Liberals think they're slick.
21. Posted by JB | November 2, 2006 9:52 AM |
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22. Posted by steak111111 | November 2, 2006 9:53 AM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Unless Lee, you're talking about 1978....
"Sen. Kennedy's Soviet sympathies also were on display in 1978 when he pushed through Congress the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA), which at his insistence severely restricted government wiretap powers so he could continue his clandestine contacts with the Kremlin free of interference from U.S. intelligence agencies, Human Events reported. FISA rules were so tight, they ultimately prevented the CIA and FBI from heading off 9/11."
http://www.rep-am.com/story.php?id=14560
22. Posted by steak111111 | November 2, 2006 9:53 AM |
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23. Posted by steak111111 | November 2, 2006 9:56 AM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
....which allowed KKKennedy to commit treason 5 years later....
23. Posted by steak111111 | November 2, 2006 9:56 AM |
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24. Posted by P. Bunyan | November 2, 2006 9:59 AM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
steak111111,
I don't know where you got the quote you posted above, but while most of it sounded o.k., the part about Regean's "star wars", or SDI as it was more properly called, being the "birth of the space shuttle" was way, way wrong. The space shuttle program was started during the late Nixon or Ford years, well before SDI.
Having such blatantly false information in you qoute puts the credibility of the whole thing into question and puts it into the same category of most of the crap the Lee, Hugo, Barney, and muirego post. And you realize you'd have to be completely informationally retarded to believe most of what those secular socialists post.
24. Posted by P. Bunyan | November 2, 2006 9:59 AM |
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25. Posted by BarneyG2000 | November 2, 2006 10:07 AM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
"I suppose we could always send in the troops and stop their elections. Those are free countries that can elect anyone they want to.." USMC Pilot
Are saying that Reagan's policy to support the Contra's coup of the freely elected Sandinista government was illegal?
You must be a Lib!
25. Posted by BarneyG2000 | November 2, 2006 10:07 AM |
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26. Posted by steak111111 | November 2, 2006 10:10 AM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
"freely elected"
A little early in the day to be smoking that stuff isn't it?
26. Posted by steak111111 | November 2, 2006 10:10 AM |
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27. Posted by USMC Pilot | November 2, 2006 10:11 AM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
I'm saying that supporting a revolution of a repressive government is not the same as invading another nation. Thank God the French (bite my tounge) did it.
27. Posted by USMC Pilot | November 2, 2006 10:11 AM |
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28. Posted by Steve Crickmore | November 2, 2006 10:23 AM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
I notice Ed Morrissey, in the piece linked to, spoke exclusively about Reagan's message, rather than his actual record, on 'big government' and 'spending'.....Still in retrospect he seems miles ahead of Bush, who has or had the advantage that Reagan didn't have, of a Republican led Congress to work with.
28. Posted by Steve Crickmore | November 2, 2006 10:23 AM |
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29. Posted by nehemiah | November 2, 2006 10:23 AM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
steak,
good point. Barney thinks that the Sandinistas were "freely elected".
Carter must have made sure that it was "free" -- therefore Barney's confidence.
29. Posted by nehemiah | November 2, 2006 10:23 AM |
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30. Posted by MyPetGloat | November 2, 2006 10:30 AM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
"I would like to see our Party going back to first principles, a la Reagan."
Underground Terror Operations?
Targeting the weakest of the domestic population?
Overbudgeting strategically worthless defense mechanisms?
Arming Dictators?Invading tiny islands?
30. Posted by MyPetGloat | November 2, 2006 10:30 AM |
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31. Posted by BarneyG2000 | November 2, 2006 10:31 AM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
If the argument of this post is that Democrates are more conservative and better qualified to lead the Reagan revolution (based on the current record of Bush with total Republican control of both houses). All of you must be voting for the Dem's this Tuesday!
31. Posted by BarneyG2000 | November 2, 2006 10:31 AM |
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32. Posted by USMC Pilot | November 2, 2006 10:35 AM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
I see that BarneyG2000 is a card carrying member of moveon.org. You get smacked down, you just move.
32. Posted by USMC Pilot | November 2, 2006 10:35 AM |
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33. Posted by USMC Pilot | November 2, 2006 10:36 AM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
make that "move on"
33. Posted by USMC Pilot | November 2, 2006 10:36 AM |
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34. Posted by BarneyG2000 | November 2, 2006 12:09 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
USMC Pilot, you must be delusional?
How about this, if Reagan wouldn't allow Cuba to build an airport in Grenada, would he allow:
-N. Korea to test long range missiles and nukes
-Iran to build nukes
-Syria and Iran to plot the overthrow of Lebanon
-Hugo Chavez to bitch slap you at the UN
-The prime minister of Iraq to order US troops off their post, and abandon one of our own to the militia
34. Posted by BarneyG2000 | November 2, 2006 12:09 PM |
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35. Posted by steak111111 | November 2, 2006 12:18 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
"being the 'birth of the space shuttle' was way, way wrong.... Having such blatantly false information..."
Reagan was inaugurated on 1/20/81
First space shuttle lauch (birth) was on 4/12/81 - a few months later.
The article didn't say that Reagan thought the idea up or made decisions leading up to the first flight but merely states that Reagan was President during the initial 1st launch.
The press, however, DID INDEED refer to it as the "birth of the space shuttle" after the launch of Columbia on 4/12/81 DURING Reagan's Presidency.
Hardly "blatently false"...
35. Posted by steak111111 | November 2, 2006 12:18 PM |
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36. Posted by steak111111 | November 2, 2006 12:22 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
I missed your post earlier Mr. Bunyan - so I sincerely hope that you don't throw me in the same catagory as Lee and Muirgeo....
....as the truth IS essential to my opinions.
36. Posted by steak111111 | November 2, 2006 12:22 PM |
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37. Posted by Mitchell | November 2, 2006 1:48 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Barney the Dinosaur is a fool, as he says:
"That is right, David Ortega and the Sandinista are back in power?"
Wrong, asshole. The elections are Sunday, or are you omniscient, as well as an asshole? Sure sign that anything you write here is pure crap.
John Kerry and Chris Dodd, et al met with Ortega in the mid-eighties, as Ortega was committing genocide in the RAAS region, and torturing and murdering political opponents. I bet your jealous the Dems. can't go that far, since they'll almost do anything for power.
Right now I would not bet on Ortega. He always polls high (hell, he's been defeated 3 times since 1990) and ends up losing. A Brown and Harvard educated guy will most likely win. And vindicate our decision to stand with the people, not the dicsredited socialist ideal, in Nicaragua.
So just fuck right off.
37. Posted by Mitchell | November 2, 2006 1:48 PM |
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38. Posted by Mitchell | November 2, 2006 1:50 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
And his name is "Daniell," you loser. God.
His nickname is "Commandante," but I doubt you understand what that might mean in Spanish.
A'hole.
38. Posted by Mitchell | November 2, 2006 1:50 PM |
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39. Posted by USMC Pilot | November 2, 2006 3:18 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
barneyG2000:
Sorry for the delay - been shopping.
"How about this, if Reagan wouldn't allow Cuba to build an airport in Grenada, would he allow:
-N. Korea to test long range missiles and nukes
-Iran to build nukes
-Syria and Iran to plot the overthrow of Lebanon
-Hugo Chavez to bitch slap you at the UN
-The prime minister of Iraq to order US troops off their post, and abandon one of our own to the militia"
-N.Korea's tests have been an ultra failure, and we have probably learned more from them than they have.
-Everytime the administration does something unilateraly you scream for the UN, and everytime they try to work through the UN you scream "why aren't you doing something". I wish you would make up your minds.
- I believe that Lebanon falls in the same category, but there is also an ally (Israel) who seems to be handling that one for us. (Not that it's any of our business to start with.)
- I suppose that Bush could have the Secret Service whack Chavez, but that might draw some criticism from, let's see - Everybody.
- As to the recent event in Iraq, I don't know the facts yet, so will hold my comments, as you should before you get egg on your face yet again.
- Once again you spout a bunch of talking points without voicing any opinion as to sollutions, other than "we hate Bush".
- Liberals are like stelth bombers - it's hard to tell where they are, until John Kerry opens his mouth.
39. Posted by USMC Pilot | November 2, 2006 3:18 PM |
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40. Posted by steak111111 | November 2, 2006 5:32 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Great post USMC.
"Liberals are like stelth bombers - it's hard to tell where they are, until John Kerry opens his mouth."
ROFLLLLLL - THAT is SO true.
40. Posted by steak111111 | November 2, 2006 5:32 PM |
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