The other day, Wizbang reader "jhow66" noticed that another commenter's name seemed new, but his words had a familiar feel. He thought "Larry" sounded a bit like "Lee."
I thought jhow might be on to something, so I started poking around behind the scenes.
A short aside: we don't require commenters to register here at Wizbang. It's Kevin's decision, but it's one I wholeheartedly support. One of the drawbacks, though, is that it is very easy to abuse that system and engage in "sock-puppetry" -- using multiple names to support one's positions to convey more support than is actually present. It's a hot-button issue with me.
Anyhoo, I did some checking, and "Larry" had never posted from "Lee's" IP -- and neither had "Lee" ever posted from any other IP. Case closed.
Whoops, let's not close that case just yet.
"Larry" is a bit more prolific than it seems. In that thread, his IP posted as "Larry." On this thread yesterday, that IP posted as "Hugh." He was also "Hugh" on this thread and this one, where he was also "Michael." He was a bit less formal here, when he was "Mike."
I'm not going to ban his IP, because I really, really don't like doing that. But I am going to publicly ask him to just pick a single name and stick with it.
And before anyone else can beat me to it...
BLOOD FOR ODIN!!!!!!!
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Hmmm.That's that b... (Below threshold)1. Posted by ed | August 9, 2006 2:16 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Hmmm.
That's that bad. Sock puppetry is the domain of people who either don't have a valid argument or who can't adequately debate.
1. Posted by ed | August 9, 2006 2:16 PM |
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Posted on August 9, 2006 14:16
2. Posted by not ed | August 9, 2006 2:17 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Hmmm.
@ ed
Man you are so right!
You must be extremely intelligent, quite handsome and dare I say, I dare!, very suave.
2. Posted by not ed | August 9, 2006 2:17 PM |
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Posted on August 9, 2006 14:17
3. Posted by really not ed | August 9, 2006 2:17 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Hmmm.
@ ed
I must agree with "not ed".
Dude you are ... a ... god!
3. Posted by really not ed | August 9, 2006 2:17 PM |
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Posted on August 9, 2006 14:17
4. Posted by Gianni | August 9, 2006 2:18 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Libs blogging dont seem much different than lib polls. They seem to feel popular opinion is more important than facts.
Maybe thats why the election results are always so different than polls that quiz the same person, 6 times, with multiple alias's.
4. Posted by Gianni | August 9, 2006 2:18 PM |
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Posted on August 9, 2006 14:18
5. Posted by not ed's brother | August 9, 2006 2:20 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
I have to admit that, even though he's not related to me in any way, I'd be proud to be ed's friend, what with him bing so cool and all.
5. Posted by not ed's brother | August 9, 2006 2:20 PM |
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Posted on August 9, 2006 14:20
6. Posted by the wolf | August 9, 2006 2:21 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Maybe he should try "Sybil."
6. Posted by the wolf | August 9, 2006 2:21 PM |
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Posted on August 9, 2006 14:21
7. Posted by goddessoftheclassroom | August 9, 2006 2:39 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
wolf, your quip is one of the reason I love reading blogs and their comments--you made me laugh out loud.
7. Posted by goddessoftheclassroom | August 9, 2006 2:39 PM |
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Posted on August 9, 2006 14:39
8. Posted by not Jim Addison | August 9, 2006 2:40 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
I have no objection to him posting under multiple IDs.
The rest of the casual readers just think there are a few more nasty little moonbats around, instead of one with a lot of issues.
;-)
8. Posted by not Jim Addison | August 9, 2006 2:40 PM |
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Posted on August 9, 2006 14:40
9. Posted by not ed's great grandmother | August 9, 2006 2:41 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
If I were ed's great grandmother (which I'm not), I'd be proud to be so in hopes that his brilliance, magnificience, striking ability to make a point and his vastly superior overall views on, well everything, could be partially attributed to me.
9. Posted by not ed's great grandmother | August 9, 2006 2:41 PM |
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Posted on August 9, 2006 14:41
10. Posted by Lee | August 9, 2006 2:42 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
It's nice to know my little pal jhow66 missed me.
10. Posted by Lee | August 9, 2006 2:42 PM |
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Posted on August 9, 2006 14:42
11. Posted by Jay Tea | August 9, 2006 2:44 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Even you gotta admit, lee, the dipshit in question here nailed your style.
J.
11. Posted by Jay Tea | August 9, 2006 2:44 PM |
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Posted on August 9, 2006 14:44
12. Posted by really not ed | August 9, 2006 2:54 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Hmmmm.
Just in case anybody makes any allegations of sock puppetry about me and "not ed" and "really not ed".
I live in Brazil and share a house with several other people, all sharing a router.
So there. :-P
lol.
12. Posted by really not ed | August 9, 2006 2:54 PM |
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Posted on August 9, 2006 14:54
13. Posted by not ed's dog | August 9, 2006 3:04 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
I just wanted everyone to know I'm very, very loyal to Ed and want nothing other than to sit at his feet and listen to what ever comes to his mind. I want only to be able to fetch his slippers and pipe at the end of a hard day. I just love him!!
13. Posted by not ed's dog | August 9, 2006 3:04 PM |
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Posted on August 9, 2006 15:04
14. Posted by Mitchell | August 9, 2006 3:24 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Jeez. How much of a loser are you that you have to spend your time inventing blog aliases and posting pointless gibberish under them.
I bet he's doing all this at work, and that he works for the government or the school system. Wherever you can be least productive and still draw a pay check.
14. Posted by Mitchell | August 9, 2006 3:24 PM |
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Posted on August 9, 2006 15:24
15. Posted by sitnam | August 9, 2006 3:32 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
.sniarb wef oot dna skcos ynam oot htiw elpoep rof si yrteppup kcoS
15. Posted by sitnam | August 9, 2006 3:32 PM |
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Posted on August 9, 2006 15:32
16. Posted by Mitchell | August 9, 2006 3:42 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
yrev llew dias, mantis.
16. Posted by Mitchell | August 9, 2006 3:42 PM |
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Posted on August 9, 2006 15:42
17. Posted by SurfinKC | August 9, 2006 3:50 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Isn't he the same "guy" that used to post as "jon" and then praise himself as some female name. I think that it's obvious when he's posting.
17. Posted by SurfinKC | August 9, 2006 3:50 PM |
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Posted on August 9, 2006 15:50
18. Posted by Lee | August 9, 2006 4:00 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
"Even you gotta admit, lee, the dipshit in question here nailed your style."
I had noticed an increase in the number of smart, lucid, left-leaning posts of late. I just assumed that more and more Americans were coming to the senses.
18. Posted by Lee | August 9, 2006 4:00 PM |
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Posted on August 9, 2006 16:00
19. Posted by Zelsdorf Ragshaft III | August 9, 2006 4:45 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Lee, if more people were comming to their senses, there would be less left leaning idiotic posts, not more. Just an example of the continuation of the lie, a national commentator on a cable new program argued that Saddam had no connection to 9/11 or the terrorists responsible. Discounting information that Atta met with Iraqi intel agents prior to 9/11 from both the country of origin and military intel, documents found in Iraq indicate there was a connection. But you would rather believe there was no connection because you hate Bush and information that a President was doing his job makes your hate wrong.
19. Posted by Zelsdorf Ragshaft III | August 9, 2006 4:45 PM |
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Posted on August 9, 2006 16:45
20. Posted by jhow66 | August 9, 2006 5:21 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Thanks Jay (I am just a 71 years young PC illiterate) for the help.
Oh by the way "pucker puss" (lee lee) nice to know that I get under your skin. You just made my day "little pal".
20. Posted by jhow66 | August 9, 2006 5:21 PM |
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Posted on August 9, 2006 17:21
21. Posted by Herman | August 9, 2006 5:50 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Someone please tell Jay Tea that it is in fact possible for more than one person to use a single computer. Please.
21. Posted by Herman | August 9, 2006 5:50 PM |
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Posted on August 9, 2006 17:50
22. Posted by scsiwuzzy | August 9, 2006 6:32 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Herman,
Maybe that is one of the reasons Jay didn't ban Larry/Hugh/Jon?
22. Posted by scsiwuzzy | August 9, 2006 6:32 PM |
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Posted on August 9, 2006 18:32
23. Posted by Oyster | August 9, 2006 7:20 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Hey! I found Larry/Mo/Curly (whatever his name is).
23. Posted by Oyster | August 9, 2006 7:20 PM |
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Posted on August 9, 2006 19:20
24. Posted by Jumpinjoe | August 9, 2006 7:22 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Well, when my wife is feeding me grapes and my daughter is fanning me, I usually make my son type my posts at Wizbang for me. (Dictated of course) When my daughter’s arms get tired she takes over the keyboard.
So yes, that is possible.
24. Posted by Jumpinjoe | August 9, 2006 7:22 PM |
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Posted on August 9, 2006 19:22
25. Posted by Faith+1 | August 9, 2006 8:03 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
It isn't hard to immitate the Lee's of the world when all you really have to do is cut and paste from the latest Kos talking points, or just wait to see what the conservatives say and just take the opposite position.
25. Posted by Faith+1 | August 9, 2006 8:03 PM |
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Posted on August 9, 2006 20:03
26. Posted by Looks a little like James Cloninger, but is not as handsome | August 9, 2006 10:47 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Hey! I found Larry/Mo/Curly (whatever his name is).
Hey, the last thing I want to do is click on a link to "Clinton's sockpuppet"...it might be smoking a cigar.
26. Posted by Looks a little like James Cloninger, but is not as handsome | August 9, 2006 10:47 PM |
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Posted on August 9, 2006 22:47
27. Posted by ReadyFirst | August 10, 2006 1:20 AM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
I don't know why anyone is surprised by this. This is the same way the lefties vote in elections, multiple times by the same person. :)
27. Posted by ReadyFirst | August 10, 2006 1:20 AM |
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Posted on August 10, 2006 01:20
28. Posted by sanssoucy | August 10, 2006 8:03 AM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
I guess I simply don't understand why it's fine to use a single anonymous nik, but some sort of monster evil to use two or three. Folks, *what difference does it make*?
I mean, when someone breathlessly announces that they've [gasp!] found two posters with the same IP, my initial reaction is that they've found a guy who - like me - sometimes finds it impossible to keep straight all the zillions of addresses, names, emails, and passwords he's using for the bazillions of websites he's frequenting.
But what really bugs me is this fucktard *a priori* assumption that "catching" someone using two niks is perfectly equivalent to bravely and brilliantly destroying their arguments. "Hahahaha! I'm only using *one* anonymous handle! You're using *two*! I win!!! Toppa the world, Ma!!!"
Dumb.
Folks, stop breathlessly peeking at IP addresses and start addressing people's arguments, regardless of how many identities Secret Squirrel appears to have.
Furrfu...
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28. Posted by sanssoucy | August 10, 2006 8:03 AM |
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Posted on August 10, 2006 08:03
29. Posted by King of Fools | August 10, 2006 10:39 AM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
I think the point is...if you HAVE a rational argument, there is no need to garner sock support so people will admire it.
29. Posted by King of Fools | August 10, 2006 10:39 AM |
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Posted on August 10, 2006 10:39
30. Posted by jhow66 | August 10, 2006 11:27 AM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
What's the matter "sanssoucy" ashamed of your posts?
30. Posted by jhow66 | August 10, 2006 11:27 AM |
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Posted on August 10, 2006 11:27
31. Posted by sanssoucy | August 10, 2006 11:31 AM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
I think the point is...if you HAVE a rational argument, there is no need to garner sock support so people will admire it.
Right. And if you *don't* have a rational argument, then no amount of "support" - sock puppet or otherwise - is going to save it.
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31. Posted by sanssoucy | August 10, 2006 11:31 AM |
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Posted on August 10, 2006 11:31
32. Posted by sanssoucy | August 10, 2006 11:38 AM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
What's the matter "sanssoucy" ashamed of your posts?
Not in the slighest, "jhow66."
But I am always amazed that motards who "argue" by prancing off to desperately scan the IP logs are granted the slightest degree of credibility by anyone.
Hasn't anyone around here heard of DHCP?
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32. Posted by sanssoucy | August 10, 2006 11:38 AM |
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Posted on August 10, 2006 11:38
33. Posted by jhow66 | August 10, 2006 10:29 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Sorry but I don't even know how to do the IP "scan".
No.
33. Posted by jhow66 | August 10, 2006 10:29 PM |
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Posted on August 10, 2006 22:29