A great point Jay. The same goes for people who say the Crips and Bloods in LA are just youth groups that use violence to survive. Are we to say that they are the local government for south central LA?

Jay Tea - you ARE my hero. And what a really GOOD idea!

I'm waiting for the first Arab of Muslim commenter to say "Only if they're aimed at synagogues."

"I'd be willing to bet that after a bunch of people and buildings in Tijuana, Juarez, Nogales, Matamoros, and other border cities are blown to bits, Mexico will pay a bit more attention to our border concerns..."

This has to be one of the more childish, moronic things to be posted on Wizbang. You haven't been drinking, and then driving down the Pacific Coast Highway lately, have you?

Oh, yeah - you guys joke about murdering innocent people around here - I forgot - sorry... heh - funny stuff.

I can add to this. When Texas was a republic (and all was right in the world), the Texas legislature defined the southern border of Texas to be "as far south as the sword of war shall draw it". Now after the union joined Texas, there was an incident called the Mexican-American war. The sword of war went all the way down to Mexico City ('From the halls of Montezuma...' and all that). So I think we have at least as strong of claim as Hezballah v Israel on all of Mexico down to Mexico City.

So the minutemen would just be expressing the rightful wrath of all Americans, on both sides of the border, who just want the infidels off their land and so launch a few peace rockets to give them a hint to leave.

As usual, irony and satire are completely lost on the clueLees.

Don't be a silly person, Lee. Jay Tea was showing the absurdity of defending Hezbollah attacks on Israel by transplanting the tactics and excuses to another locale. It wasn't a joke. It was a way of pointing out, through a change of details, the problem with the general case.

However, that said, I think the analogy would work better if the Katyushkas were traveling South to North from Tijuana and Matamoros. Then I think the US would pay a little more attention to Border security and buffer zones...

@ LEE

"Oh, yeah- you guys joke about murdering innocent people around here?- I forgot...hey- funny stuff!"

We dont make jokes about your abortion mill's around here! So WTF are You blibbering about?

So you're equating "The Minutemen" with Hezbollah?

HAHAHAHAHAAHAHA. Worst entry ever, Jay.

Wow.

"As usual, irony and satire are completely lost on the clueLees." - Epador

Awesome.....

KC

No, Jay's point, as I see it, is that IF the Minutemen were to use the same tactics as Hezbollah, those on the left would be falling all over themselves accusing them of being right wing terrorists, and they would be right. In that case, why does Hezbollah have apologists on the left, and people who can't bring themselves to use the "T" word when describing them?

It's not as effective an example if you were to reverse the roles and have illegals firing rockets into the US, but cause the same dipshits who sympathise with Hezbollah would be falling overthemselves asking us to look for 'root causes' to explain the attack, and similar nonsense.

That is the whole point of Jay's post, in my opinion...

So then, who'd be paying to reconstruct Tijuana, Matamoros, etc.?

That's thy I liked the reverse direction, though I bow to Bugz logic.

Lee says "Oh, yeah - you guys joke about murdering innocent people around here - I forgot - sorry... heh - funny stuff."

This from the guy who wanted to nuke Osama where ever he was in the Middle East after the Clinton presidency but no later than a week after 9/11. That's funny stuff especially if Osama had been in a major city. Hee, hee, ha, ha, ho, hoo, ho.

Except he wasn't in a major city -- He was hiding in caves -- and not during the Clinton adminstration - I said after 9/11. Guess that fog in your brain is making you more of a drooler than you appeared before.... but keep trying Red Fog, sooner or later you'll get something right.

Lee,
So, where is the evidence Osama was hiding in caves? Gimmie a perfect source or stop saying that. Aren't you projecting? Don't you live in a cave? And why not nuke Osama's cave during the Clinton administration? You don't care about 3,000 lives lost on our soil? I can't get your killer deplomacy right because you don't stick to any one coherent thought about your desire to use the Bomb.

Shouldn't satire be funny?

When did it become so that any stupid, irrelevant and just plain wrong comment can be defended behind the guise of humor.

Umm, Fhrankie, the post wasn't meant to be satire or to be funny. It was to illustrate the absurdity and hypocrisy of lhiberals.

Frankie,
So you think nuking arabs is funny? Maybe you are stupid, irrelevant and just plain wrong. Say it to the mirror ... not me.

Thim,
Thanks.

It was an excellent analogy. It *should* have worked to point out the absurdity of the failure to call Hezbolla terrorists even to those who agree with Hezbolla's goals.

But it didn't. Because certain parties are so used to the posture of moral superiority that they latched like a limpet onto the opportunity to ride their exhausted high horse. Oh the humanity! Making jokes of bombing people!

As several people have pointed out... it wasn't a joke. But better to joke about it than to worship the plucky freedom fighters that *of course* are only slandered by calling them terrorists because they really and truely in real life, FOR REAL, bomb innocents, on purpose.

A joke is beyond the pale. It's how they pretend that they care, really CARE, about real people who are really living in fear and horror. Because caring, or the apearance of caring is REALLY IMPORTANT. The offended sensibilities... they're supposed to prove something.

I'm just not sure to whom.

Lee....are you that much of a simpleton? I mean...JESUS!!

See I told you could tell it was old "pucker puss" (lee lee) right off. LOL

clueLEES (I really like that, btw) post was an attempt to sidetrack the thread. It almost worked by getting everyone all lathered up, but...

Excellent EXAMPLE or ILLUSTRATION of the liberal mindset.

BTW, hasn't the Mexican military or some dressed in uniforms already made incursions into the US?

First the answer: No.

As to the question:

I have a simple question for those who say that Hezbollah is not a terrorist organization, or strictly a
terrorist organization, or are a legitimate resistance group:

... implies that anything that bears the "Hezbollah" label in any way is necessarily terroristic and worth bombing, i.e. that it's okay to bomb a kindergarten, if that kindergarten were funded and staffed by people who belong to the political party known as "Hezbollah." This position is widely held by knownothings and flathats across the Bozart, and is roundly ignored by those who work in diplomatic and policy circles in the real world -- a description that most emphatically does not include the Cowboy Diplomats in the Bush administration. Those people (you know the sort) like to see things in simple terms, black and white, without mitigating factors, complexities or uncertainties. Absent the accidents of birth, geography and ideology, and those neocons might as well be called "al Qaeda" -- another group of people who like to paint other people groups with the broadest possible brush, to the same end. Not that I expect you to parse that, exactly, but it should be said.

Under that precedent,

... i.e. the "precedent" of acknowledging that Hezbollah, a Lebanese Islamist Shi'a organization and political party, has distinct and organizationally separate military civilian arms, much like the IRA. Like the "precedent" of seeing the neoconservative people who blew up the Alfred P. Murrah Federal Building in Oklahoma City as being somehow distinct and different from your average neocon wizbanger. I could be wrong, of course; perhaps you should all be rounded up and gassed? I'll look into it; you might actually have something there... Ha! Pretty good joke, eh?

ClueLees and AstinkingGaff:

"Nyah Nyah."

I mean, all those words and it amounts to about the same.

Nyuk, nyuk, nyuk.

astigafa:
I haven't the slightist f*cking clue as to what you are trying to say. Please, don't try that again.

As for epador:

"Nyah Nyah." I mean, all those words and it amounts to about the same. Nyuk, nyuk, nyuk.

...and his boyfriend Red Fog:

I haven't the slightist f*cking clue as to what you are trying to say. Please, don't try that again.

...did you people collude? Oh, the big words, I forgot. Ah, did you two get together in some way and say, "Hey, let's prove astigafa's point"?

Hey. Thanks.

The idea of our guys being armed on our side of the border makes an interesting analogy. But I posted something last week that may be more chilling. And well worth thinking about. Insomuch as these Islamofascists seem to have absolutely no allegiance to anyone nor do they subscribe to any rules of engagement, what makes anyone think that they now actually have to cross our border in order to do us harm?

Given the fact that these bastards started the current war by firing rockets across the border from Lebanon into Israel, I somehow don't think it would be a stretch for us to start expecting stuff to start coming across the border at us from Mexico. So what do we do then? Bomb the crap out of Mexico? And I'm not trying to be sarcastic or funny. I honestly believe it's a matter of 'when' and not 'if.'

How interesting...

I opened my piece with this disclaimer:
I have a simple question for those who say that Hezbollah is not a terrorist organization, or strictly a terrorist organization, or are a legitimate resistance group:

And Lee and astigafa answers.

I guess Lee and astigafa DO think that Hezbollah is a legitimate group. Thanks for clearing that up for us.

Oh, and astigafa's also a homophobe.

Sometimes you learn the neatest things in the most unexpected ways...

J.

J.