Yesterday, much of the blogosphere was abuzz with the story of Jesse MacBeth, the former US Army Ranger who admitted to committing numerous atrocities and war crimes in Iraq. The anti-war side proclaimed his "brave decision" to come forward, while our side had serious doubts.
Well, once again, it looks like our side was right -- again.
The US Army says that it has no records that indicate that Jesse MacBeth ever served in the United States Army at all, let alone in the Special Forces or ever set foot in Iraq.
A lot of people are condemning MacBeth, and I can see why. But I'd like to take a different tack.
I'd like to invite Jesse to join us, the 101st Fighting Keyboardists.
Most of us, like Jesse, have strong feelings about the war despite never having served in the Armed Forces.. (We have some veterans in our ranks, but like in the general populace, they are a distinct minority. Unlike the general populace, though, we give them great honor and respect.)
Joining is easy -- a lot easier than joining the Services, as we are a hell of a lot less demanding and discriminating as they are. It's pretty much a self-selecting process -- just say you are, and you're in.
All Jesse has to do is simply declare that he has never served, yet still wants to make his voice known about the war in Iraq. I can't speak for any other members, but I personally would welcome him.
If for no other reason than it'll give him a lot higher profile -- and that makes him a much easier target for the scorn, abuse, and contempt he has so richly earned.
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Well done, JT. Perhaps you... (Below threshold)1. Posted by epador | May 23, 2006 12:06 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Well done, JT. Perhaps you could raise him to the level of exalted and most revered honorary Scapegoat?
1. Posted by epador | May 23, 2006 12:06 PM |
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Posted on May 23, 2006 12:06
2. Posted by mantis | May 23, 2006 12:10 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
"Much of the blogosphere was abuzz" over a bogus interview from a month ago in SocialistAlternative.org? Really?
Somehow I missed it.
2. Posted by mantis | May 23, 2006 12:10 PM |
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Posted on May 23, 2006 12:10
3. Posted by jim b | May 23, 2006 12:17 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Haaaa filed under Asshats ... .you're killin me here.
3. Posted by jim b | May 23, 2006 12:17 PM |
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Posted on May 23, 2006 12:17
4. Posted by Thomas Blumer | May 23, 2006 12:49 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
The better question is why we should trust the judgment of those who claim in their hearts to legitimately oppose the war when they can so easily be fooled by a POS like Jessie MacBeth.
4. Posted by Thomas Blumer | May 23, 2006 12:49 PM |
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Posted on May 23, 2006 12:49
5. Posted by Gabriel Chapman | May 23, 2006 12:58 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
This should illustrate just how bankrupt organizations like Iraqi Vetrans Against War are. They can't even bother to do basic background checks on people who represent them.
MacBeth has spoken at several "rallies" under the auspices of being an Iraqi war veteran, yet he was never in the service, and a cursory glimpse at his profile at Military.com illustrted just how bogus his claims were:
">Fake vets are easy to spot, especially when they are pulling a Winter Soldier.
5. Posted by Gabriel Chapman | May 23, 2006 12:58 PM |
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Posted on May 23, 2006 12:58
6. Posted by ed | May 23, 2006 1:09 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Hmmm.
What was truly absurd is that this MacBeth was claiming to have been a Ranger when he was clearly wearing a USMC uniform.
Amazing that so few liberals picked up on that.
6. Posted by ed | May 23, 2006 1:09 PM |
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Posted on May 23, 2006 13:09
7. Posted by Scrapiron | May 23, 2006 1:26 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Some are calling for his arrest, how would we do that without arresting Hanoi John? The only difference in that Hanoi John visited Vietnam for a couple of months with a video camera and a book to write. He also has the Navy regulations on how to get the 'hell' out of Vietnam as soon as you phonied up a 'hero' resume. Just another left wing liar, what's the big deal since that includes 99% of them?
7. Posted by Scrapiron | May 23, 2006 1:26 PM |
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Posted on May 23, 2006 13:26
8. Posted by Pug | May 23, 2006 3:45 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Some are calling for his arrest, how would we do that without arresting Hanoi John? The only difference in that Hanoi John visited Vietnam for a couple of months with a video camera and a book to write. He also has the Navy regulations on how to get the 'hell' out of Vietnam as soon as you phonied up a 'hero' resume. Just another left wing liar, what's the big deal since that includes 99% of them?
Further proof that some brave Chickenhawks are just common, ordinary a-holes with tough sounding Internet nicknames.
Lieutenant John Kerry volunteered for the Navy and served two tours in Vietnam. He is a decorated combat veteran and you are just a dingbat. Too bad for you.
8. Posted by Pug | May 23, 2006 3:45 PM |
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Posted on May 23, 2006 15:45
9. Posted by jp2 | May 23, 2006 3:51 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Yeah, I haven't heard of him either. Not on Wizbang, Kos, Powerline, TP, TPM, RawStory, Unclaimed Territory, LGF, C&L... links? Anyone?
9. Posted by jp2 | May 23, 2006 3:51 PM |
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Posted on May 23, 2006 15:51
10. Posted by ed | May 23, 2006 5:14 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Hmmm.
Sigh. I hate it when crap comes floating on back up.
He did his first tour on a guided missile cruiser. That's not exactly anything that anybody would call hazardous.
His second "tour" lasted just over 3 months.
That's not anything that anybody would call impressive.
10. Posted by ed | May 23, 2006 5:14 PM |
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Posted on May 23, 2006 17:14
11. Posted by ed | May 23, 2006 5:15 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Hmmm.
@ jp2
My second attempt at posting a link
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x1260163
11. Posted by ed | May 23, 2006 5:15 PM |
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Posted on May 23, 2006 17:15
12. Posted by The Random Yak | May 23, 2006 5:39 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
MacBeth.
Heh.
I'd say more, but I think I feel a post coming on. That, and anyone who gets the joke doesn't need further explication.
12. Posted by The Random Yak | May 23, 2006 5:39 PM |
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Posted on May 23, 2006 17:39
13. Posted by jp2 | May 23, 2006 5:42 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
@ed:
That link just says the story is fake. Maybe I'm missing it. (Never been to the site before)
13. Posted by jp2 | May 23, 2006 5:42 PM |
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Posted on May 23, 2006 17:42
14. Posted by Duckhunter | May 23, 2006 5:53 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Looks like Jesse had a name change in 1986 (when he was two years old) -- Muslim birth name is Jesse Adam AL-ZAID:
(Source: Pima County [Arizona] Superior Court records)
http://www.cosc.co.pima.az.us/record_search
Search for Case # C234837
Jesse is also wanted for arrest in Washington State:
http://www.co.pierce.wa.us/cfapps/linx/calendar/GetCriminalCase.cfm?cause_num=06-1-01994-8
14. Posted by Duckhunter | May 23, 2006 5:53 PM |
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Posted on May 23, 2006 17:53
15. Posted by Reality | May 23, 2006 7:42 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Ed, can you point me to GWB's Vietnam service record? You stated that John Kerry's record wasn't impressive, surely Dear Leader must have an impressive war record.
Thanks in advance!
15. Posted by Reality | May 23, 2006 7:42 PM |
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Posted on May 23, 2006 19:42
16. Posted by Jay Tea | May 23, 2006 8:02 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Reality, GWB himself said that Kerry's record was better than his. The point is, Kerry has done exactly DICK since then. He expected to ride those few months over 30 years ago into the White House.
Well, that's not exactly fair. Kerry has exactly one post-war accomplishment that I not only respect, but have praised him for -- and I mean that sincerely. But I'm not doing your homework and pointing it out.
Schmuck.
J.
16. Posted by Jay Tea | May 23, 2006 8:02 PM |
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Posted on May 23, 2006 20:02
17. Posted by heptacableguy | May 23, 2006 8:07 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
"Looks like Jesse had a name change in 1986 (when he was two years old) -- Muslim birth name is Jesse Adam AL-ZAID" Posted by: Duckhunter
Selective Service Commission classification:
Class 2-D: Registrant deferred because of study preparing for the ministry.
>> 2-D or not 2-D, that is the question
Time to connect some dots: ministry == jihadi?
17. Posted by heptacableguy | May 23, 2006 8:07 PM |
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Posted on May 23, 2006 20:07
18. Posted by Cranky | May 23, 2006 8:19 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Reality,
You too can have an impressive war record. All you have to do is write it yourself -- if John Kerry can do it, so can you. Shooting yourself in the ass as the third punch on your ticket out of the country -- Priceless.
Of course we could remove all doubt of Kerry's war record if he would release all of his military records to the public. Another promise the Lord of the Dems broke.
18. Posted by Cranky | May 23, 2006 8:19 PM |
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Posted on May 23, 2006 20:19
19. Posted by ed | May 23, 2006 8:43 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Hmmm.
Do I look like I care?
19. Posted by ed | May 23, 2006 8:43 PM |
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Posted on May 23, 2006 20:43
20. Posted by ed | May 23, 2006 8:51 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Hmmm.
@ jp2
Sorry. I thought there was a link.
Mmmm. PeaceFilms.org has dropped off the planet. Literally since they've replaced their website with a picture of planet Earth.
Ok you can download the video from:
http://www.torrentspy.com/torrent/745169/Confessions_Of_An_Iraqi_War_Veteran
or
http://www.mininova.org/tor/317868
WikiPedia entry:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jessie_Macbeth
Used to be available on:
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article13140.htm
...
Essentially Jesse MacBeth is a poser who pretended to be a former "Army Special Forces Ranger" who got interviewed on video about the various atrocities he did while in Iraq, while under orders from the US Army. Supposedly he and a number of other Rangers went out and murdered civilians, shot babies, etc etc etc. You know this nonsensical crap that's always being asserted.
Only problem is that not one single detail actually checks out and the guy is exposed as a poser.
20. Posted by ed | May 23, 2006 8:51 PM |
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Posted on May 23, 2006 20:51
21. Posted by SGT Bazz | May 23, 2006 8:59 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
I have the worst war record of any vet. I spent the ground war of '91 in the Philipines, banging some whore on the beach brought in by Papa-san.
But, what if we prosecuted Jesse for his comments? Who would be the first to his defense? I bet... John Murtha.
21. Posted by SGT Bazz | May 23, 2006 8:59 PM |
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Posted on May 23, 2006 20:59