Fox News, the AP, and CBS are reporting that Samuel A. Alito, Jr., 55, of the 3rd District Court, will be nominated by President Bush to succeed retiring Supreme Court Justice Sandra Day O'Connor. They say Bush will make the formal announcement at 8:00 a.m. Eastern today.
1. Posted by
John | October 31, 2005 6:58 AM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
John:
I hate to say that this is a bad move for Bush. I tentatively like the nominee. But the Democrats can spin his ruling on spousal notification for abortion into a big deal. He did just enforce the law instead of creating it, but liberals don't care about that. It's going to be an ugly fight. And a boring one too as the Democrats won't discuss much past his ruling on the issue.
1. Posted by
John | October 31, 2005 6:58 AM |
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2. Posted by
Mike | October 31, 2005 7:10 AM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Mike:
John, this is exactly what the President should want and needs. This fight will unite the conservatives that split over the Miers debacle. The Democrats may have the fight in them, but they will not have the support of the American people, especially if they try and filibuster.
This would be a great move by Bush.
2. Posted by
Mike | October 31, 2005 7:10 AM |
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4. Posted by
DaveD | October 31, 2005 8:49 AM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
DaveD:
John, if what you say becomes true I would love to hear the President say exactly that (and the nominee say so in committee): that he ruled in favor of the law as written. The President should follow up by saying that it is not up to Alito, but instead to his legislative critics, to change the law.
4. Posted by
DaveD | October 31, 2005 8:49 AM |
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5. Posted by
beneith | October 31, 2005 9:38 AM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
beneith:
Now is it not a measure of man who after having a successfull experience as mentioned in a blog online, would immediately downplay it by blogging about a bush agenda
cheers to unselfish souls
5. Posted by
beneith | October 31, 2005 9:38 AM |
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6. Posted by
Phinn | October 31, 2005 9:53 AM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Phinn:
This is a stellar nominee. Alito is imminently qualified, which in the final analysis is what really matters.
I disagreed with the pro-Miers pundits touting her likelihood to agree with conservatives on political matters as a point (supposedly) in her favor. They seemed to miss the BIG PICTURE, that Supreme Court justices are supposed to be apolitical. I know it's hard for people who are knee-deep in politics 24/7 to think about issues in any other way, but that's precisely how judges should behave.
We shouldn't be tempted into abandoning the deeply held principle that judges should be apolitical just to get someone who can further politicize the Court, albeit in our favor. Let the Democrats be the hypocrites. They're good at it.
Alito has been a well-respected federal Court of Appeals judge for many years. That alone makes him qualified for the Supreme Court.
6. Posted by
Phinn | October 31, 2005 9:53 AM |
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Hey what can I say, he seems like a serious qualified guy. Shame I dont agree with him on most issues, but what can I do about that. Hope he doesnt make it, but understand if he does. Not like the supreme court was exactly on my side to begin with right?
My only fear is that, in 20 years if he is still around, it will be the year 2025, and we will have a conservative (probably others as well) who thinks with a 1950s mentality. Thats pushing 3/4ths of a century behind the times. If you follow my meaning.
8. Posted by
Phinn | October 31, 2005 10:33 AM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Phinn:
Not like the supreme court was exactly on my side to begin with right?
See, Alex, that's the Big Picture right there -- the Supreme Court (or any court for that matter) is not supposed to be on anybody's side.
That's what it means to be impartial. To be neutral. It's the role of the courts.
And, what the hell does it mean to be with "the times" anyway? As far as I can tell, that's a shorthand expression for a set of political views that you happen to agree with. It's a neat way of avoiding anything remotely substantive.
The "times." I can't stand that expression. It implies that we are all helpless, hapless little passive sheep, going with the herd, go along, get along, shrugging your shoulders and saying "what are you going to do?", resigned to your shitty little existence.
If the Left (or any other group) manages to get the votes together to actually amend the Constitution, I expect Alito, Roberts, Scalia, Thomas and others to enforce the brand-spanking new provisions as written. Is that with the "times" enough for you?
All you have to do now is go out there and convince enough people to vote your way. Good luck.
8. Posted by
Phinn | October 31, 2005 10:33 AM |
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10. Posted by
Henry | October 31, 2005 12:17 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Henry:
Phinn,
In a perfect world, yes, the judicial branch should be apolitical. However, it is apparent that in our courts today that there are numerous activists in the courts. As Alex has just demonstrated, it is most often the liberals who see the courts as a means to affect political change.
However, it is impossible for anyone to ever be fully unbiased. Bias comes in from every aspect of life (religion, ethnicity, education, home life, etc.). Bias affects interpretations when trying to establish intent. Activists make little to no attempt to diminish their bias, whereas a constructionist will. Constructionists will often disagree and it will sometimes be due to their personal bias. This isn't bad. This is why there are 9 justices.
For a person to expose their thinking as a conservative is important. It gives us an idea as to what their bias is. Equally important is what you've argued: that the person should (attempt to) be apolitical.
But make no mistake about it; we need a person to be conservative in thinking and to be apolitical in the judiciary.
10. Posted by
Henry | October 31, 2005 12:17 PM |
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11. Posted by
arb | October 31, 2005 1:34 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
arb:
President Bush is the winner of the 2005 World Series of Political Poker. I believe the Miers nomination and eventual withdrawal was a HUGE bluff deliberately run by the president, who, with the Alito nomination, has once more run rings around the rest of the players.
11. Posted by
arb | October 31, 2005 1:34 PM |
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I hate to say that this is ... (Below threshold)1. Posted by John | October 31, 2005 6:58 AM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
I hate to say that this is a bad move for Bush. I tentatively like the nominee. But the Democrats can spin his ruling on spousal notification for abortion into a big deal. He did just enforce the law instead of creating it, but liberals don't care about that. It's going to be an ugly fight. And a boring one too as the Democrats won't discuss much past his ruling on the issue.
1. Posted by John | October 31, 2005 6:58 AM |
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Posted on October 31, 2005 06:58
2. Posted by Mike | October 31, 2005 7:10 AM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
John, this is exactly what the President should want and needs. This fight will unite the conservatives that split over the Miers debacle. The Democrats may have the fight in them, but they will not have the support of the American people, especially if they try and filibuster.
This would be a great move by Bush.
2. Posted by Mike | October 31, 2005 7:10 AM |
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Posted on October 31, 2005 07:10
3. Posted by Just Me | October 31, 2005 7:45 AM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Good choice.
Sure the dems will have some toe holds to attack, but they aren't going to be able to paint Alito into the "extremist" corner.
The dems risk far more by preventing the vote, than they do by slinging their mud, and voting "no."
3. Posted by Just Me | October 31, 2005 7:45 AM |
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Posted on October 31, 2005 07:45
4. Posted by DaveD | October 31, 2005 8:49 AM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
John, if what you say becomes true I would love to hear the President say exactly that (and the nominee say so in committee): that he ruled in favor of the law as written. The President should follow up by saying that it is not up to Alito, but instead to his legislative critics, to change the law.
4. Posted by DaveD | October 31, 2005 8:49 AM |
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Posted on October 31, 2005 08:49
5. Posted by beneith | October 31, 2005 9:38 AM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Now is it not a measure of man who after having a successfull experience as mentioned in a blog online, would immediately downplay it by blogging about a bush agenda
cheers to unselfish souls
5. Posted by beneith | October 31, 2005 9:38 AM |
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Posted on October 31, 2005 09:38
6. Posted by Phinn | October 31, 2005 9:53 AM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
This is a stellar nominee. Alito is imminently qualified, which in the final analysis is what really matters.
I disagreed with the pro-Miers pundits touting her likelihood to agree with conservatives on political matters as a point (supposedly) in her favor. They seemed to miss the BIG PICTURE, that Supreme Court justices are supposed to be apolitical. I know it's hard for people who are knee-deep in politics 24/7 to think about issues in any other way, but that's precisely how judges should behave.
We shouldn't be tempted into abandoning the deeply held principle that judges should be apolitical just to get someone who can further politicize the Court, albeit in our favor. Let the Democrats be the hypocrites. They're good at it.
Alito has been a well-respected federal Court of Appeals judge for many years. That alone makes him qualified for the Supreme Court.
6. Posted by Phinn | October 31, 2005 9:53 AM |
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Posted on October 31, 2005 09:53
7. Posted by Alex Dorph | October 31, 2005 10:18 AM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Hey what can I say, he seems like a serious qualified guy. Shame I dont agree with him on most issues, but what can I do about that. Hope he doesnt make it, but understand if he does. Not like the supreme court was exactly on my side to begin with right?
My only fear is that, in 20 years if he is still around, it will be the year 2025, and we will have a conservative (probably others as well) who thinks with a 1950s mentality. Thats pushing 3/4ths of a century behind the times. If you follow my meaning.
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7. Posted by Alex Dorph | October 31, 2005 10:18 AM |
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Posted on October 31, 2005 10:18
8. Posted by Phinn | October 31, 2005 10:33 AM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Not like the supreme court was exactly on my side to begin with right?
See, Alex, that's the Big Picture right there -- the Supreme Court (or any court for that matter) is not supposed to be on anybody's side.
That's what it means to be impartial. To be neutral. It's the role of the courts.
And, what the hell does it mean to be with "the times" anyway? As far as I can tell, that's a shorthand expression for a set of political views that you happen to agree with. It's a neat way of avoiding anything remotely substantive.
The "times." I can't stand that expression. It implies that we are all helpless, hapless little passive sheep, going with the herd, go along, get along, shrugging your shoulders and saying "what are you going to do?", resigned to your shitty little existence.
If the Left (or any other group) manages to get the votes together to actually amend the Constitution, I expect Alito, Roberts, Scalia, Thomas and others to enforce the brand-spanking new provisions as written. Is that with the "times" enough for you?
All you have to do now is go out there and convince enough people to vote your way. Good luck.
8. Posted by Phinn | October 31, 2005 10:33 AM |
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Posted on October 31, 2005 10:33
9. Posted by ICallMasICM | October 31, 2005 11:22 AM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Why couldn't GWB have just picked this guy the first time?!?!?
9. Posted by ICallMasICM | October 31, 2005 11:22 AM |
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Posted on October 31, 2005 11:22
10. Posted by Henry | October 31, 2005 12:17 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Phinn,
In a perfect world, yes, the judicial branch should be apolitical. However, it is apparent that in our courts today that there are numerous activists in the courts. As Alex has just demonstrated, it is most often the liberals who see the courts as a means to affect political change.
However, it is impossible for anyone to ever be fully unbiased. Bias comes in from every aspect of life (religion, ethnicity, education, home life, etc.). Bias affects interpretations when trying to establish intent. Activists make little to no attempt to diminish their bias, whereas a constructionist will. Constructionists will often disagree and it will sometimes be due to their personal bias. This isn't bad. This is why there are 9 justices.
For a person to expose their thinking as a conservative is important. It gives us an idea as to what their bias is. Equally important is what you've argued: that the person should (attempt to) be apolitical.
But make no mistake about it; we need a person to be conservative in thinking and to be apolitical in the judiciary.
10. Posted by Henry | October 31, 2005 12:17 PM |
Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Posted on October 31, 2005 12:17
11. Posted by arb | October 31, 2005 1:34 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
President Bush is the winner of the 2005 World Series of Political Poker. I believe the Miers nomination and eventual withdrawal was a HUGE bluff deliberately run by the president, who, with the Alito nomination, has once more run rings around the rest of the players.
11. Posted by arb | October 31, 2005 1:34 PM |
Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Posted on October 31, 2005 13:34