and ra -- After a while, don't you just get embarrassed?

I am glad they linked to the other attack hamster I do not have bookmarked:

"I'm a proponent of vouchers not because I "hate" public schools or p.s. teachers but because they have become a shining example of how a government monopoly, insulated and rarely held to meaningful account, devolves."

O GOD VOICE FILLED WITH HATE, can't you just feel the hate?

:) Pretty funny.

You have to wonder about someone who explains EVERY contrary position as coming from "hate". Do they think everyone else hates because they, themselves hate so strongly?

Maybe he couldn't read, since most of the responses slammed the teacher (or the teachers union).

I guess I would rather be a hamster than a moonbat.

I'm assuming the last sane person left long ago, anyone capable of reasoning can see that the self-contradictory nature of leftism, for instance being a PETA member that's pro-abortion but anti-death penalty. I've threatened for years to open a restaurant with partial birth aborted veal on the menu and executions showing on a big screen TV, with all the chairs upholstered in fur for good measure. When they held their rally outside to protest me they wouldn't be able to figure out which side they were on. They wouldn't know whether to come in and order a cutlet platter to show their support for a cow's right to choose then threaten to kill me or pace back and forth out front with a Beef is Murder sign and threaten to kill me. Since the self-proclaimed Captain Normal has links showing support to all three causes he's far from normal, reasonable or sane. Yep, sanity jumped ship long ago in liberal land....

You've got to admit though, "attack hamster" is a pretty funny term. It made me smile, at least.

Am I a hamster? If so, how about some treats and one of those wheel toys?

[Paul: You know you are going to get at a minimum a 400 word scolding. Come on: Are you a MAN or a HAMSTER!]

When you look at the kooks the democrats choose as leaders, can there be any wonder at why they produce some of the brain-dead comments they spew?

A simple example of how completely out of touch with reality is a comment that appeared on one of the left wing extremists sites. The writer (I doubt even the lunatics of the left would refer to it as a journalist) stated that nothing, absolutely nothing, happened in the US without the prior approval of Karl Rove. This fruit cake failed to acknowledge that it was posting on a left wing extremist web site and Karl Rove had made no move to have it shut down. Hmmm, wonder if the lunatics that run the site will now shut it down and say it was shut down at the specific instructions of Karl Rove?

This fruit cake failed to acknowledge that it was posting on a left wing extremist web site and Karl Rove had made no move to have it shut down.

Last summer, there was some article comparing the US to 1930s Germany. It was reprinted a zillion times. I got into an argument with someone about it and kept asking for their proof and they kept referring me to the same article but on different websites. They really believe this crap.

Maybe, we need to do unto them -- The LLLeft is trying to limited free speech! Since, Howard Dean became head of DNC our phones are being tapped. The LLLeft is working on a plan to open up conservative GULAGS the day after they win an election. The LLLeft is buying up all the stock in voting machines so they can fix the next election.

Hey, this is sort of fun!

Ha, all that and on a website entitled, "Captain Normal." I sense another oxymoron.

julie: in a best guess, I've concluded that the troubling inappropriate, inaccurate lobbing of that equation that you describe there, so prevalent among LLLeft, is due to the fact that there was not any PUBLIC education provided to a few generations now grown in the U.S. and Europe about just who and what 1930's Germany was and what the politics that arose from there were.

As in, there's a current genaration of misguided, uninformed people who were not provided with any information about the reality of the whys and wherefores of those times and so today misapply certain labels from those times to inappropriate sources today.

As in, there was a literal black out of and about the German Socialist Party for a long time out of disgust (an appropriate reaction, no doubt) but what it led to was that today, we see people who now don't appear to understand the origins of that disgusting time and the politics it spawned and so are encouraging and proliferating a misapplication of terms about it.

I dread having to express this, but the only way around this trobling trend by the LLLeft is to begin to expose the history of 1930's Germany (thereabouts) and provide accurate information about what the politics actually were and why they arose and when they did and how made possible by whom. Not to encourage information about all that so much as to discourage misinformation about all that in contemporary times.

Because, the German Socialist Party arose out of liberalism and the occult in Europe. It didn't arise among conservatives and people of religion in a sincere sense, but among the liberal elements run amok by, as is reappearing today, misinformation and fear among liberals. Not among conservatives, but among liberals and liberalism. It was a socialist movement born out ouf extreme socialism laced with occultist methods, references and fuel.

That teacher should have taught her kids that destroying mosques is an important part of stamping out Islamofascism and that killing civilians is not anyone's fault because you have to break a few eggs to spread freedom. Instead she has them hating on our brave men who brought them the democracy and Christianity they need to be free.

Bark bark bark bark bark bark bark bark!

Hey, no fair! Kevin gets to be a hamster and I'm only "attack"?? I mean..I DO have a nice warm fuzzy side.

Memo
To: Leftist Cult
Cc: dKos, Atrios, Capt. Abbie Normal, et al
From: fake-name "Attack"
re: "minnie"

Sheesh, the quality of the trolls is dropping.

Send us better trolls! You know, ones who don't drool on the keyboard as they type?

Yep, whenever the hateful left disagrees with someone they ironically label them as "hateful" and gratuitously throw in some references to Nazis. This, more than anything, indicates that the left has lost the argument. They have nothing to add.

RE: Darleen's post (February 21, 2005 08:25 PM)
Abbie Normal

Heh, classic. Time to scan the DVDs.

Let's see, Young F-Fr-Fra, Yes, here it is...
Frank-en-steen.
Frahnk-en-steen.
Frank-en-stein!

Let's put this into perspective, shall we? For every letter a soldier stationed overseas has received critical of the war, there are a thousand more filled with glowing praise and unwavering pride of their sacrifice. That goes for kids, times ten.

What we have here is Rupert Murdoch's Post choosing to highlight one (Muslim) child's sentence out of 21 letters. We don't know what was in the rest of the letter; we don't have the text of the other 20 letters.

We don't even know whether the letter writing was assigned by the teacher; but let's assume it was. The teacher chose not to censor any of the letters. Nine out of 21 letters were "critical." Big deal. I find honesty refreshing, don't you?

We don't know how these letters ended up on a South Korean base, but we want to blame the teacher for that too I suppose.

Mr. GI in South Korea isn't getting enough love and called to complain? I find that ridiculous. Hasn't he ever played Santa Claus before and had a kid wet his pants on him?

Murdoch's Post wants to use this one isolated atypical episode to sell papers to its conservative base. No doubt Fox has picked up the story and O'Reilly is fuming about how this one atypical episode demonstrates the liberal state of public education nationwide. The Right Wing blogosphere wants to use this one isolated atypical episode to feed its Left hating hungry crowd. Geez, I suppose you'll be talking about this one long after Ward Churchill has applied for unemployment compensation.

But don't you guys remember the rule? Sooner or later the conversation always comes back to somebody or another being a Nazi!

Heil! Bark bark, heil!

Logical Fallacy:
In order for the last rational person to leave the democrat party - there would have to be at least one in there now.

I find no evidence for this assertion.

- I hate to do this to the lurking moonbats but they brought it on themselves....

- Due to the repeated mention of Nazi stuff Godwins law is hereby invoked....

- We now return you to your bark free thread....( just please trolls.... Don't mention the name of the young Doctors secretary or you'll set off all the horses....)

I'm sorry, but 'Attack Hamster' was just too much of a Richard Gere reference for me....

Brad is the only person on this thread---myself included---to see this story for what it really is; a chance to whip up some fear and hatred.

A fearful electorate will swallow almost anything, including a for-profit was that slaughters their sons and daughters while siphoning their money into the pockets of Dubya's campaign contributors.

Clearly I am way out of the mainstream...and thank the Goddess for that! The "mainstream" is a flock of sheep, if this thread is any indication.

OOPS! That should be "for-profit WAR" not "for-profit WAS"

We don't know what was in the rest of the letter; we don't have the text of the other 20 letters.

you'll get some more quotes in the follow up article in tomorrow's Post. And the father of the soldier in question will be on Hannity and Colmes tomorrow night with the rest of the original letters...which I personally read, being the sister of the soldier in the article. The rest are worse than the Muslim student's...

This teacher requested my brother's address in Korea, so his class could do an assignment of 'letters of support' to a soldier Brad!

"Mr. GI in Korea" gets plenty of love, and only voiced concern when he opens a package of 'support' letters, which he did NOT ask for, to find sentiments like the ones you'll soon here more about.

that would be "hear" more about...sorry, it's been a looong day!

Would that be as opposed to a peace complete another 500,000 Iraqis in mass graves so France could continue to profit? Please give us a list of these profiteers, you moonbats keep talking about them, I guess the actual proof can't penetrate the Reynold's Wrap. Loosen that headwear up a little and let a few of those facts slip out. Oh, and one last question for you, is that Reynold's wrap in the shape of a beret or a turban?

Don,

What color are the sheep in clueless land?

BAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH.

Hey Wizbangers! We have a guest.

LC: Welcome. How did you happen to wander into Wizbang? I hope you can see that 99.99999999% of us are unhappy about how your brother was treated.

I'd say those numbers are fairly accurate, Julie. I'm with most of you on this one, the teacher should have screened the letters. How are 6th graders supposed to be political? wtf?

It really hurts me to read about broken eggs and "The Young Frankenstein" (character/s) in the same thread.

Y'know, my post wasn't about the 11 year old---whom I don't care about---but about the anger addicts on the right who always need something or someone to scream about to distract themselves from the bloody mess they've made of things.

Y'all have proven my point so much better than I ever could.

Thank you!

Hi Julie, we heard that Wizbang looked like one of the first to post on the article, so I came to check it out. I'm running around the net trying to say thanks to the people who truly support all the troops, not only with words but with action.

The follow up made the front page of the Post today...stay tuned, I'll be back :)

Hey Capt. Goofball...

You say:

Y'know, my post wasn't about the 11 year old---whom I don't care about---but about the anger addicts on the right who always need something or someone to scream about

but your post says:

"The Republican Attack Hamsters can't go 10 seconds without being pissed off at somebody, because if they let up for that long someone might notice that the Emperor has no clothes. Since it's a slow news day, they're all ganging up on a sixth grader.

The kid has an excuse for being stupid---he or she is eleven years old. What's the Attack Hamsters excuse?"

Do I detect a wee bit of anger there, you clueless moron?

"Y'all have proven my point so much better than I ever could."

That's true in ways that you probably don't understand.

The kid has an excuse for being stupid---he or she is eleven years old. What's the Attack Hamsters excuse?"

If reading comprehension is proof of age, maybe, Don is the eleven year old. How, about it, Don, when do you turn twelve?

It seems to have escaped this blogger's notice that everyone else linking to this story is criticizing the teacher, not the kids, for allowing this to happen, and this "enlightened" blogger is the only one I've seen call the kids "stupid."

Who, exactly, is picking on the kids, again?

LC: I read today's NY Post . Those letters were terrible. I'm so sorry your brother had to read them. One day, those kids are going to realize what they did and feel terrible. So, you're from Middletown? I'm not, but I read the local papers. I've been following the Sandy Hook Partners fiasco. I'll try to catch your dad on television, tonight. Thanks for giving us the heads up.

LC,
I'm afraid I just don't understand your part of this story. Why would the teacher ask you for the APO of a soldier--yoru brother--in South Korea, and then ask his students to write about Iraq?

I've read the Post's "update" and there is still too much left out. I am of course curious to know more about this assignment. Was the teacher coaching the students on what to write? All of you assume that he was.

But again, the larger perspective on this is that this is an isolated incident. U.S. soliders have received tens of thousands of letters of support, and yet these 9 letters get singled out. The Post has an axe to grind. Wizbang has an axe to grind. Everyone knows this.

And again, I have no problem with kids writing what they might honestly feel about war. I happen to live in a part of Brooklyn close to the school and I know this is an area where many Muslim children are getting their information from sources other than Fox News. And no, I don't just mean al-Jazeera. Think about it, hamsters.

Why would the teacher ask you for the APO of a soldier--yoru brother--in South Korea, and then ask his students to write about Iraq?

Ask the teacher.

I've read the Post's "update" and there is still too much left out. I am of course curious to know more about this assignment. Was the teacher coaching the students on what to write?

Ask the teacher.

All of you assume that he was.

The fact that he mailed hateful letters does point that way. Do you have proof that he didn't'?

But again, the larger perspective on this is that this is an isolated incident.

You assume that it was. Do you have proof of that? Anyway, the issue is that hateful letters went to this one soldier. It is irrelevant whether it is or is not an isolated incident.

U.S. soliders have received tens of thousands of letters of support, and yet these 9 letters get singled out. The Post has an axe to grind. Wizbang has an axe to grind. Everyone knows this.

YOU have an axe to grind and everybody know that. Well, actually, it's you just being bitter and nasty all the time.

And again, I have no problem with kids writing what they might honestly feel about war.

So you endorse letters of this nature being sent to our servicemen. So much for supporting the troops lie!

I happen to live in a part of Brooklyn close to the school and I know this is an area where many Muslim children are getting their information from sources other than Fox News. And no, I don't just mean al-Jazeera.

Well, were ever they get their news, it's wrong.

Think about it, hamsters.

Sure, moonbat. Now, tell us again how you support the troops!

Thanks Julie, and you're absolutely right...that this may be an isolated incident is irrelevant. The point is that it's finally becoming acceptable in this PC world to say, ya know what? you screwed up, and your actions will now have consequences.

Brad, as far as the whole Korea/Iraq connection...I can't answer that. There may have been a misunderstanding as to his location since it is subject to change relatively quickly. Unfortunately, the person who can answer will not comment. Even more unfortunately for Mr. Kunhardt is that he picked the wrong family to spew his 'isolated incident' upon. We certainly are not piling on the kids, we just want the teacher to be held accountable for allowing these letters to be sent to a soldier who he either believed was in Iraq, or a stone's throw from the dmz in Korea...either way, unacceptable. He brought this on himself when he requested Rob's address to send "letters of support" and then allowed these letters to go out.

When the Left misbehaves, be it a Congressman claiming that BushCo sent out fake memoes or that BushCo let 9-11 happen on purpose or a teacher coaching kids to send out anti-military mail, it's simply an individual event, nothing to see here, let's move along.

But when the Right misbehaves, such as lauding Strom Thurmond, it's a reflectin of the fundamental racism inherent among all conservatives.

Gotcha.

Actually, (not sure if anyone posted this already, haven't read all comments), since Zell Miller has already given his support to the GOP AND announced his retirement after this term (and presumable will CONTINUE to vote for what is --gasp-- BEST for the American people, the last sane man has left the DNC, even if he hasn't left DC yet.

Actually, if the roles were reversed, we would be screaming that this teacher be fired. We are not.

A thought on the address thing.

The teacher may have assumed the soldier was stationed in Iraq. Military addresses go to FPO's.

LC,
It sounds like you ought to have your own blog. After all, your family is on the fast track to celebrity status. But a few more questions--because your answers raise more questions:

1.) How do you know Alex Kunhardt ? How did Kunhardt come to contact you for your brothers' information--are you an associate of this teacher?

2.) Why are Hannity and Colmes having your Dad on their show and not you? It sounds like you were more directly involved in this exercise.

Julie here says it best: "wherever they get their news, it's wrong." In other words, if one of the Muslim students heard that a mosque was bombed in Iraq--well, he's just wrong.

The Right wants to send a message: Shut Up about the war. Period.

BAN OLYMPICS, ITS A BIG WASTE OF MONEY FOR 2 WEAK.

Actually my dad does have a closer connection. His co-worker's daughter is in Alex's class and she asked for his address, we have no personal relationship with the teacher.

Dad's on the show tonight b/c he was the one who started the ball rolling by taking the letters to the Post...also, I'd be a nervous wreck! He's much calmer under pressure :)

I've decided to simply offer to collect some real letters of support and get them over to my brother, and to run around the internet thanking people for the time they are taking to discuss the issue.

Thanks for the clarification, LC. But come on--
Do you really think your brother is starving for support?

Did these letters from kids send him into a grief and shame spiral or something? Don't you think this is getting just a little overblown?

OK, Brad, let me see if I understand you? Just because there are people here who support the troops, it's ok for a teacher to let letters DEMONIZING troops be mailed overseas to men and women doing a job that is about as grueling as anything on earth? These are men and women who are away from their families, far from home, and on virtually every news channel they are portrayed as the bad guys. Then, some teacher says that she wants the address for a service person so her class can send letters of support to said service person, but she allows letters spewing anti-US rhetoric and calling our military "baby killers" to be sent to this Soldier?

I'm sorry, but this teacher should be at the VERY LEAST severely reprimanded for SEVERE lack of good judgement!

Smoke Eater,
I don't disagree that the teacher should be reprimanded. Assuming, of course, that the facts are what we all seem to think they are. We still haven't heard Kunhardt's side of the story--and contrary to what you Right Wingers will say, he deserves to have his say.

Should he lose his job over this? Most of you won't be satisfied until Kunhardt pays the price that Dan Rather, Eason Jordan, and pretty soon Ward Churchill paid. What is happening here is this teacher is being lynched in this blog, and on CNN and Fox News (Hannity is having the GI's Dad on tonight). This is absolutely ridiculous.

I'll agree that Kunhardt made a mistake if you will admit that this matter has been way overblown.

Attack Hamsters (er, gerbils)

http://joecartoon.atomfilms.com/pages/gerbilgeno/

Alright Brad, I'm done arguing with you. For the last time, we'd LOVE to hear what Mr. Kunhardt has to say...unfortunately he's REFUSING TO COMMENT!!

And once again, the point is not that this may be an isolated incident...the point is that it happened, and it's really not ok.

LC: Forget about Brad. If it doesn't make the US or our soldiers look bad, he's not interested.

Brad: if one of the Muslim students heard that a mosque was bombed in Iraq--well, he's just wrong.

When it leaves out the part that the mosque was being used by snipers or to launch mortars or to store weapons or there were hundreds of bodies found inside who were murdered by the occupants -- yep, it is wrong.

Brad, much like LC said - I WOULD LOVE to hear what this teacher has to say. If this is a teacher who is preaching hatred of the US Military, FIRE HIM, if this is just a teacher who did not set guidelines (and enforce them) about what to write (for example - NO RUDE OR HATEFUL LETTERS), let the school decide. As for the other names on your list.....

Dan Rather - BLATANTLY lied on air about the sitting President in an effort to sway an election, and he has not been "fired", he just isn't anchoring the news, but kept the 60 Minutes job (and I don't think he'll even see a cut in pay)

Eason Jordan - Publicly said that he believes the U.S. Military is TARGETING journalists in the mid-east! I'm sorry, but our military is the most intelligent, the strongest, and the best trained military ON THE PLANET, I think they know a reporter from a terrorist, and if we WERE doing that, do you think that it would be obvious? If we were doing this (first) there would be NONE left, and second, we'd appear to be the only military NOT doing it!

Ward Churchill - I'm sorry, but when a man LIES about his native American heritage (as the tribe he claimed has come out and said) and when he tries to go to New York and say that all of the 9/11 victims DESERVED what they got, that is NOT a teacher, that is a TRAITOR in my mind! People like this scream that this is a "horrible" and "evil" country, yet they are free to criticize the government and military all they want! Show me another country where a Ward Churchill could do what he is doing and not face jail time, or a country where you can BURN THE FLAG and not face a BEATING from police AND jail time! Sorry, but Rather and Eason, yeah, I wanted them fired, and only Eason was. Churchill, just being fired wouldn't be good enough for me, I'm thinking that being ex-patriated sounds pretty good. If you hate this country so much, we'll pay your air-fare out!

Moonbat Brad,

I don't get people like you. You call this a political thing and you are harping on the sister of this soldier for something apparently upsetting to him. This guy is away from his family serving this country.

You have a lot of nerve to bait her saying her family is trying to get fame or something. It is disgraceful what happened and you have issues if you cannot admit it.

Obviously, this teacher is a dumbass. These poor kids are going to walk away not understanding what "a letter of support" means. LETTER OF SUPPORT. S-U-P-P-O-R-T. Not opinion. Not a letter of chastisement.

Another issue that I find appalling that you idiots refer to the kids as stupid. I don't see anyone here criticizing the children idiot. But I see a lot of hatred and judgement in that statement alone. And calling conservatives racists? You are an idiot. I'm sure you are the type that thinks all African Americans work in hotels too.

Have Staci let me know when the shooting starts. Way past talking to the tinfoil hat wearing, koolaide quaffing, chickenshit libs. Sitting by patiently.