For some reason Wizbang is showing up very wonky in exactly one combination of operating system and browser. Windows 98 and IE6 are overlapping the black and blue text. I'd been working on Weekend Caption Contest winners and other long delayed posts when this issue came up. Is anyone seeing this on other platforms?
Here's a screen shot from Windows 98SE and IE 6 (1024x768 image) [View image].
I've scrubbed the left sidebar and rebuilt everything. Now I'm looking through the content, but on XP I've never seen the overlap error these Windows 98 users report.
Update: Whatever scrubing I did seems to have fixed the problem. Some stray characters in an older post seem to have been causing the problem. Thanks to everyone who helped track down the answer to this problem.
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Hey, Can you give ... (Below threshold)1. Posted by John | September 13, 2004 12:30 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Hey,
Can you give a little more details? Is that Win98 Gold or Win98 Second Edition? Is that IE 6.0 (Version number 6.0.2600)or IE 6 sp1 Version (6.0.2800) I'll check on a few variation.
John
1. Posted by John | September 13, 2004 12:30 PM |
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Posted on September 13, 2004 12:30
2. Posted by Paul Zrimsek | September 13, 2004 12:37 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Is it overlapping them or just kerning them? (g,d,&r)
2. Posted by Paul Zrimsek | September 13, 2004 12:37 PM |
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Posted on September 13, 2004 12:37
3. Posted by ac halle | September 13, 2004 12:40 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Windows XP Home is picking up your web as normal.
3. Posted by ac halle | September 13, 2004 12:40 PM |
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Posted on September 13, 2004 12:40
4. Posted by Cowboy Blob | September 13, 2004 12:46 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Actually, this was the last straw that got my procrastinating butt to configure my new computer for internet. My laptop, running Windows ME/IE6, kept freezing on your blog, overlapped text and all.
4. Posted by Cowboy Blob | September 13, 2004 12:46 PM |
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Posted on September 13, 2004 12:46
5. Posted by Camille | September 13, 2004 1:07 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Mozilla is picking up the blog just fine.
5. Posted by Camille | September 13, 2004 1:07 PM |
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Posted on September 13, 2004 13:07
6. Posted by King of Fools | September 13, 2004 1:08 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
It really looks like a div problem. For some reason that particular combination is taking some symbol/combination as an excuse to close your content div prematurely.
6. Posted by King of Fools | September 13, 2004 1:08 PM |
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Posted on September 13, 2004 13:08
7. Posted by George | September 13, 2004 1:08 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
I use Win98 and IE6, and I'm not having the problem you describe.
7. Posted by George | September 13, 2004 1:08 PM |
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Posted on September 13, 2004 13:08
8. Posted by dean | September 13, 2004 1:12 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Please should just use XP and be done with it.
8. Posted by dean | September 13, 2004 1:12 PM |
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Posted on September 13, 2004 13:12
9. Posted by bullwinkle | September 13, 2004 1:13 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Works fine on Win98se with ie6 and Deepnet browsers. Works on my other system WinXP and ie6 and with Mozilla too.
9. Posted by bullwinkle | September 13, 2004 1:13 PM |
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Posted on September 13, 2004 13:13
10. Posted by Branna | September 13, 2004 1:14 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
I have XP too & things are lookin' pretty normal to me.
10. Posted by Branna | September 13, 2004 1:14 PM |
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Posted on September 13, 2004 13:14
11. Posted by -S- | September 13, 2004 1:38 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Looks fine and has all morning: XP Home Edition, I.E. 6.0.
BUT, there are a lot of problems this morning with the Internet in general...I'm guessing that's because there are a lot of people using it this day (and, actually, during the past few days, but this morning has been very slow nearly everywhere for me with cable access even).
11. Posted by -S- | September 13, 2004 1:38 PM |
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Posted on September 13, 2004 13:38
12. Posted by Rob | September 13, 2004 1:50 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
I still have 98 on my machine at home and regularly visit using IE 6. I've never noticed any problems. Its always shown up fine, unless you've changed something since the last time I loaded Wizbang at home (maybe two, three days ago?)
12. Posted by Rob | September 13, 2004 1:50 PM |
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Posted on September 13, 2004 13:50
13. Posted by moghedien | September 13, 2004 2:06 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
I was able to reproduce the problem in 98se and IE6, but only if the sidebar is on, otherwise, the letters are where they should be.
13. Posted by moghedien | September 13, 2004 2:06 PM |
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Posted on September 13, 2004 14:06
14. Posted by Hunter | September 13, 2004 2:15 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Guys...far be it from me to break up this techno jamboree...( personally at this point anyone still using 98 is living in a hut in havana anyway ) ...At the risk of being a party pooper I'm dragging things back sort of on topic with this...
- Ole Pat Caddel just tore his entire party a new ass on FOX Dayside "Zell nuking" the DNC, Merry McAuliffe, and every other Dem he could squeeze into his lambast. The audience broke into loud and sustained applause as he very efectively countered almost every Dem talking point in the Bush bashing rhetoric currently making the rounds of the Liberal media talk show circuit. Saying at one point..."How many times did the swift boat vets appear on the Today show...I'll tell you...none....ziltch....zero...Does the DNC and the Democratic party, My party, think that the American voters are a bunch of idiots...". The audience went nuts. One Lady said..."Well who could be supprissed....they're so obviously biased for Kerry its sickening..."...
CBS and several other Liberal lap dogs got put through the shredding machine in his tirade. The "Fortunate son", swiftboats, harsh names hurled at Bush as a lier and a traitor, saying he was ashamed at the things that are being done in the name of his party while men and women are out there dying for our country.
There was much much more... Quite a damning display all in all...Look for the DNC talking heads to demand "face time" on competeing outlets to counter... The Dems continue to have to run faster and faster just to continue falling behind...
The latest numbers show Kerry slipping even further in the majority of polls...particularly in the two most important questions of Bushes job rating and who voters see better to run the country in regards to the Iraqi war....
...John if you don't know what the "Bush bounce" means heres a hint....It means you and Teresa will be spending Christmas in cambodia....
14. Posted by Hunter | September 13, 2004 2:15 PM |
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Posted on September 13, 2004 14:15
15. Posted by CJOffermann | September 13, 2004 2:38 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
I did have that problem this weekend; however, I don't now. I am using 98 and ie6.
15. Posted by CJOffermann | September 13, 2004 2:38 PM |
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Posted on September 13, 2004 14:38
16. Posted by CJOffermann | September 13, 2004 2:39 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
I did have that problem this weekend; however, I don't now. I am using 98 and ie6.
16. Posted by CJOffermann | September 13, 2004 2:39 PM |
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Posted on September 13, 2004 14:39
17. Posted by Sergeant America | September 13, 2004 3:02 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
IE 6 sp1 Version (6.0.2800)
Mozilla 1.7.1
Winblows XP - Pro (SP-1)
Dial-up ...prior to the WWW's collapse...
A-OK!
17. Posted by Sergeant America | September 13, 2004 3:02 PM |
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Posted on September 13, 2004 15:02
18. Posted by MikeAdamson | September 13, 2004 3:21 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
I run W98SE and either IE6 or Firefox 0.9.3. I had the problem in both browsers this morning but no problem now. I've had the problem on other sites as well although Say Anything is the only one I can think of off the top of my head.
18. Posted by MikeAdamson | September 13, 2004 3:21 PM |
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Posted on September 13, 2004 15:21
19. Posted by Dori | September 13, 2004 3:21 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
XP is fine with me too
19. Posted by Dori | September 13, 2004 3:21 PM |
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Posted on September 13, 2004 15:21
20. Posted by Leopold Stotch | September 13, 2004 4:42 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
People still use internet explorer?
20. Posted by Leopold Stotch | September 13, 2004 4:42 PM |
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Posted on September 13, 2004 16:42
21. Posted by Kevin Murphy | September 13, 2004 4:43 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Have you considered that some blogad is producing the result. I've seen blogads slow down and/or break a site.
21. Posted by Kevin Murphy | September 13, 2004 4:43 PM |
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Posted on September 13, 2004 16:43
22. Posted by John | September 13, 2004 5:20 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Okay the combos below look fine:
W2KSP4 IE6SP1 German
NT4WKS IE6SP1
W2ksp2 IE5.01SP2
W2kSP3 IE5.01SP3
W2kSP4 IE5.01SP4
W2kSP4 IE6SP1
XP Gold IE6.0 Gold
XPSP1 IE6SP1
XPSP1 IE6SP1 German
XPSP2
XPSP2 German
WS2k3 with IE6SP1
The platform below I've been able to repro the problem at least once:
WinME With IE5.5SP2
WinME With IE6SP1
I did not have any 98SE machines up today sorry.
jP
IE Land
22. Posted by John | September 13, 2004 5:20 PM |
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Posted on September 13, 2004 17:20
23. Posted by John | September 13, 2004 6:16 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
I've never had a problem with your site using Win 98SE and Firefox 0.9.2, but I do now -- the links are superimposed over the ads. Everything else is OK.
Good luck,
John
23. Posted by John | September 13, 2004 6:16 PM |
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Posted on September 13, 2004 18:16
24. Posted by rammer | September 13, 2004 9:08 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
i use ie 6.0.2800.1106 and win 98 4.10.2222 A and do not have this problem. you're coming through loud and clear.
24. Posted by rammer | September 13, 2004 9:08 PM |
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Posted on September 13, 2004 21:08
25. Posted by anne | September 13, 2004 9:40 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Yes. I have gotten this.
I am afraid my assessment of the problem is coming from the tech-challenged person.
I believe at work I have IBM/IE6.0 and a strong DSL connection (the works!), whereas at home I have Juno/IE6/Windows98/NT and a flippant dial up.
At work, when I scroll your site at a rapid pace, to get to a certain post, the brower takes it line by line to reproduce. But not a problem.
At home, once I was looking for a post and it was already off the page. I went to your monthly archives and because I knew the date would be at the bottom of the page, I began to scroll before the page fully loaded. My computer locked up and I got this jumbled view of your website (that screenshot you are showing us).
I would suggest splitting your archived months by two, so the dial upper could have less to download. (Pretty please. :) )
I think this might be the problem rather than the display on a certain browser. After the lock up, I had to reboot completly. But, again, I am not a techie.
Anyway, I hope this helps you isolate the problem. :)
25. Posted by anne | September 13, 2004 9:40 PM |
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Posted on September 13, 2004 21:40
26. Posted by Kevin Haryett | September 13, 2004 10:08 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Well, something has changed.
WinXP SP2, Firefox 0.92 1024X768 and this is what I get :
Screenshot
It was fine yesterday.
26. Posted by Kevin Haryett | September 13, 2004 10:08 PM |
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Posted on September 13, 2004 22:08
27. Posted by LissaKay | September 13, 2004 10:24 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
The page is whacked. Seriously. There are some major coding errors, tags out of order, wrong DOCTYPE, no HTML tag ... and that's just the first few lines I looked at ...
Check for yourself -
http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http%3A%2F%2Fwizbangblog.com%2F
27. Posted by LissaKay | September 13, 2004 10:24 PM |
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Posted on September 13, 2004 22:24
28. Posted by LissaKay | September 13, 2004 10:25 PM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
The page is whacked. Seriously. There are some major coding errors, tags out of order, wrong DOCTYPE, no HTML tag ... and that's just the first few lines I looked at ...
Check for yourself -
http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http://wizbangblog.com/
28. Posted by LissaKay | September 13, 2004 10:25 PM |
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Posted on September 13, 2004 22:25
29. Posted by Steve | September 14, 2004 6:32 AM | Score: 0 (0 votes cast)
Occasionally on WinXP and IE 6 I will get all text. No ads, no background, just text. I will save a screenshot the next time it happens. When it does happen, I simply reload and it shows up normally. No biggie.
29. Posted by Steve | September 14, 2004 6:32 AM |
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Posted on September 14, 2004 06:32