Give me a break, Paul, not really. Ooooh the Democratic Underground said it's the Republican's fault?! Fucking shocker. Kevin's post implies a greater cross-section of liberal than the nutcases at the DU, or at least doesn't specify that he's talking about the old reliable moonbat boards.

And sorry, but his instinct to throw that statement out there and automatically view the situation through a partisan lense was a bit weak, IMO. Sorry Kevin.

Paul - you can give my apology to Kevin when you pry it from my cold dead hands.

Seriously though, that's the nature of my beef with the post; sweeping implications.

Im with Bill on this one... I am sick of the Partisan Politics on both sides. The guy is a scum bag, and that sucks in either party. But then again, I did not even comment on Kev's comment. I simply said that dude was WRONG, WRONG, WRONG.

Bill- It was posted under HUMOR lighten up.

David: "I'm with Bill on this one." OF COURSE you are... You did not need to reply, I'll just count you down and one delusional partisan hack vote. We know.

What exactly is the beef with Kevin again? That he accurately predicted that some would blame the Republicans for this?

And it's hardly just the nutjobs at DU (who, don't kid yourself, do represent a major strain of contemporary liberalism). Look at most of the blog posts on this guy. They're all calling him a hero, and saying that he's been forced out because of our country's "immature" attitudes about homosexuality. Read some of the links cataloged here and here, for example.

Whoa, wait a minute here. Democratic Undergound was linked by John Kerry's site officially until it was sent into the memory hole, remember?

The John Kerry forum was just as bad last time I checked it, which was probably 10 days ago. I can't even call it DU-lite, it was, and might still be, DU all the way.

David Anderson, your "wrong, wrong, wrong" quote makes me think of Richard Byrd's statement.

Paul to humor is like Ken Griffey Jr. to September baseball....

He did post it in the humor category though...

Humor aside, McGreevey sure set himself up nicely to get a substantial level of support for his candid admission, when by his actions he really didn't deserve any. Remove homosexual from the equation and would anyone (left or right) be saying kind things about him tonight? Doubtfull.

It remains to be seen how far this spreads beyond DU.

I admire McGreevy for at least admitting his fault and stepping down. Sure, what he did is horrible regardless of his sexual orientation, but that is really a personal issue. It is only public because there will be a case brought about in the next week from his former lover.

I don't see what Kevin did wrong by suggesting there will be a backlash blaming Bush or Rove. As in just about everything that happens during election years, some people always put the blame on others. Ken Griffey Jr. tore his hamstring? I heard he was chasing a pitch from Kerry in the dirt.

1. paul - that WAS light. I have a caustic sense of whimsy.

2. I think that the larger problem I had was that Kevin pre-empted the partisanship with partisanship of his own. let's get the analysis done first ... but hey, your blog.

3. I think the most important analysis of this story does not involve partisanship, and it doesn't involve his "poor family." It involves the fact that this guy was in shit up to his eyeballs (Scandal, upcoming harrasment suit), and he is using the gay thing as a distracting cop-out to wave a bright shiny object in front of the press, have an excuse to bow out and pre-empt the shock of the more serious harrassment charges. For reference, go read Skankette's orgasm over his brave "I'm a persecuted gay man" speech; this has bought him sympathy prior to charges that he might have hired and fired someone for a HOMELAND SECURITY position for the state of NJ based on FUCKING.

Horrible.

I guess the point is, why should partisanship be the first instinct in this case?

I will correct myself, I meant ROBERT BYRD. I could spin my mistake but why bother.
The truith is that I screwed up.

Because Bill- It just gets old. I used to keep a list of all the asinine things Dems (big name Dems) blamed on Bush.

I don't still have the list, but I know for a fact he was blamed for at least one hurricane and batch of wildfires in California. It just gets goofy after a while.

Why mention it? Cuz it is fun predicting these people making asses of themselves. Sorta like this post.

And come on... You know some Dem (Carville?) is going to blame Bush.

As Radar O'Reilly used to say "Wait for it."

McGreevey Needs to Let New Jersey Vote and resign now, instead of waiting for November, after the election.

What BILLfromINDC wrote:

"...3. I think the most important analysis of this story does not involve partisanship, and it doesn't involve his "poor family." It involves the fact that this guy was in shit up to his eyeballs (Scandal, upcoming harrasment suit), and he is using the gay thing as a distracting cop-out to wave a bright shiny object in front of the press, have an excuse to bow out and pre-empt the shock of the more serious harrassment charges. For reference, go read Skankette's orgasm over his brave "I'm a persecuted gay man" speech; this has bought him sympathy prior to charges that he might have hired and fired someone for a HOMELAND SECURITY position for the state of NJ based on FUCKING..."

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Hearing this guy continue to represent himself yesterday as "a gay American" leaves me wondering what, exactly, is the point of that? That he's adoptable? That he's looking for free clothes? A ride somewhere?

The guy has horrible character and appears to me to have been (probably still, I'm guessing) looking for a Road To Sympathy. I feel generalized sympathy for his wife in the same way I do for the people in NJ who voted for the guy as Governor, but, that's where the sympathy ends. All in all, people of voting age (and marrying age) are expected to be self reliant, so, the wife and the voters ought to know enough from past experiences not to repeat them -- unless the wife and the voters continue to repeat their mistakes (in which case, I'd not feel sympathy but I would conclude that they were complicit in or otherwise responsible for whatever problems resulted, and thus, sympathy isn't a beneficial response by anyone).

About the guy relying on the "homosexual" aspect to his behavior, it was certainly a con effort, an appeasement attempt. From what I've read, as to his public service record, there's enough there to make anyone wonder about his credibility and competence -- but he's attempting instead to make his record about his sexuality. This is the very behavior that creates doubt in many people's minds about the competency of homosexuals in public office, because eventually it seems to always boil down to their homosexuality and everything else is used and applied toward that purpose (second, it's the "hate Bush" standard).

If he's already admitted his compromised character (and he has), I can't imagine why he (and the DNC) assumes remaining in office another several months is a good or even reasonable idea. The guy needs to leave office now and let the voters elect another Governor. If they elect another conman, then they obviously have a lot of work to do in New Jersey, but McGreevey seems to have been a reall setup, a predestined positioning, a self serving issue and issue monger, otherwise called a reckless individual, self serving to the end.

Unfortunately, by appealing to sympathy via his "homosexual" identity, it's become another inflammatory instance about gayness instead. From the responses there on DU, I'd say that this is the actual platform of the DNC, at least in popular issue response and rally by the average voting Democrat. Anything, everything that doesn't "support" that is going to be the enemy, and is, apparently.